Mechs ohm laws wire choice is over whelming

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Not trying to be that DB, there has been at least a dozen reasonable easy builds suggested already any one of which will vape very nicely.
If you've had someone offer to show you the ropes in person, take them up on it, it will be worth your time & effort.
Hands on with an experienced person is a great way to go.

This thread contains a metric ton of super dooper advice & tips, go back and read them, keep re reading them, formulate well thought out specific questions.
 

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Look I'm trying to learn this is alot of info to take in don't be a dbag if you wanna be a douche go do it to someone in the real world see the results

Don't be that dude who look down on someone trying to learn

The way I look at it I hate this mech can't find the vape i want I sell it and wait for a 20700 dual reg squonk which I'm sure tons and tons will come out

But that being said I won't ask any more questions till wire is in hand and you guys suggest me builds to try

When I finally grabbed a mech I bought one that takes 26650 batteries because the Amp rating is very forgiving on those for the mAh I want, and the prices have come down a lot. I'm sure it's possible that 20700's, or 21700's, or whatever comes next will be fine. But for right now I have a battery (actually two of them) that gives me 4200 mAh and has a 30 Amp CDR from Mooch. The battery is labeled at a 40 Amp CDR but I trust Mooch's ratings because I trust his testing methods. I do MTL vaping. I don't even go down below 0.50 Ohms, in fact 0.75 Ohm works really well for me. And going with 0.90 Ohms is darn near perfect. That means that I'll stay below a 10 Amp load on a device that can safely handle 30. It also means that if I get a wild hair up my .... and decide to put a klowds bro klowds topper on the thing that I won't get in trouble.
 

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Come to think of it @fifamymaingame you might want to look into a 26650 mech mod for just that reason. I don't know if you are wanting to go over 100 Watts or not. I have tried vaping at 100+ Watts and I didn't like it at all. It was kind of ridiculous for me. If you're going to stay under 100 Watts then a single 26650 might make more sense for you. Using a coil at 0.18 Ohms wouldn't be as big a deal. That's 23.33 Amps on a battery rated for 30. And that puts you at 98 Watts on a fresh charge.
 
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Yeah 75 95 watts seems to prefer where I like to vape

I might just set the rabbit aside for a regulated squonk later In the year or sell it on eBay

Might aim for a wasp and csmnt and just 24g 26g ni80 Friday not sure I don't like cold vapes never get flavor from them just read huge post on Reddit about a dude with 2.5id 5 wrap 24g kanthal and he's .....ing about ramp up

I don't want that I don't purge so yeah starting to get annoyed

45$ for a rabbit 35$ for hugo squeezer 25$ for 2 ijoy20700s n got no coils i think will work because of ramp up i know what used Claptons i got are about .2 .3 .4 in dual mod as I went on a huge try every premade I can find fix

I know what type of vape i want and what everyone suggesting I have heard it's on colder side with ramp up so yeah my heads a mess I'm tired of experimenting

From everything I gathered lower ohms going to mean faster ramp up but incoild be wrong

Home boys 20 gauge ni80 in his pulse22 ramped up fast but wouldn't say it was my type of vape
 
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I must be doing something wrong... I have a .4 ohm single coil in a NarCA on a mechanical squonker. It's 24ga SS 316 spaced on a 2.5 mm bit. It's far from cool and theres a ton of flavor. The exhaled byproduct is plentiful as well. Maybe the fellas on Reddit can help me out.
 

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From everything I gathered lower ohms going to mean faster ramp up but I could be wrong.

You also want to consider how much metal you are heating up. Sure, pushing more power into your coils is going to reduce ramp up time, but using less metal also decreases ramp up time. The metal is what you are heating up so less metal means that it heats up faster. You may be able to get exactly what you want with a very simple low resistance build.
 

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I'll just order 24g 26g of k1 316l ni80 won't break the bank probably order from lighting or kidney unless you guys suggest a good place 25 feet of each should be enough

I really don't want more hardware I spent all that on that squonk now I have to wait even longer it's just sitting here

So if my regulateds aren't throwing shorts on my rda i should be ok usually after I cut my leads I take my air compresser to make sure there's no metal anywhere
 
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Like dude I work with loves ammit 25 used alien coils about .45 ish ohms at 50 watts and for me there's no flavor I always crank it to 70 and it's miles better tho I burn his cotton sometimes because he stuffs it to much or that's just to much power for single coil

(Voltage x Voltage) / Resistance = Watts
So ...

(Voltage x Voltage) / Watts = Resistance

=> (4.2 x 4.2) / 70 = 0.25 Ohms

Using a Smaller Mass Build is going to give you a "Hotter" Hit. Or a Smaller Mass Build at a Slightly Higher Ohms will give you a Similar Hit.

So Based on what you said you liked, It wouldn't surprise me if you Liked a 0.3 or 0.35 Ohm Build made out of 26ga NiChrome 80 or SS.
 

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I'll just order 24g 26g of k1 316l ni80 won't break the bank probably order from lighting or kidney unless you guys suggest a good place 25 feet of each should be enough

I really don't want more hardware I spent all that on that squonk now I have to wait even longer it's just sitting here

So if my regulateds aren't throwing shorts on my rda i should be ok usually after I cut my leads I take my air compresser to make sure there's no metal anywhere

Are you doing single or dual coils?
 
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(Voltage x Voltage) / Resistance = Watts
So ...

(Voltage x Voltage) / Watts = Resistance

=> (4.2 x 4.2) / 70 = 0.25 Ohms

Using a Smaller Mass Build is going to give you a "Hotter" Hit. Or a Smaller Mass Build at a Slightly Higher Ohms will give you a Similar Hit.

So Based on what you said you liked, It wouldn't surprise me if you Liked a 0.3 or 0.35 Ohm Build made out of 26ga NiChrome 80 or SS.

Why I'm ordering 24 26g of k1 316l ni80 so I can experiment
 

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I must be doing something wrong... I have a .4 ohm single coil in a NarCA on a mechanical squonker. It's 24ga SS 316 spaced on a 2.5 mm bit. It's far from cool and theres a ton of flavor. The exhaled byproduct is plentiful as well. Maybe the fellas on Reddit can help me out.

You Most Definitely Are !!!

You Should be using a 0.35 Ohm 3mm Single Coil made from 26ga 316L in a NarDa on a Mech Squonker.

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I own a paranormal 166 and voopoo drag do regulated my squonk is the hugo squeezer

And I mess with vape tool mostly and vapors toolbox

With a regulated device you mostly just want to have good batteries, and stick to around 50 Watts max per battery. So a dual battery mod should be fine for someone who is staying under 100 Watts. All of that math kind of goes out the window because the electronics of the mod sits between your battery and your build. I think it's a good idea to take it in steps. 1) is premade atomizers on a regulated device. 2) is building your own coils on a regulated device. 3) is building your own coils on a mech. The (regulated) mod shouldn't even fire if you build wrong, so that's extra safety that's built right in. I'd check to see what the lowest resistance is for your mod and stay a bit above that. Your specs should list the resistance range.
 
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