MVP Owners Group-into the next generation

[philoshop]

A4.2, U3.8
Resistance of the working coil is going down as it gets worked/used,or over-worked/used in this case. I've been hitting it pretty hard the last couple of days. I'll give the other tanks a workout and see if the local shop has a replacement coil.
I'm interested to see if it's a broken coil or just a loose leg from the factory. Either way, I would think repairs can be done. I don't have any building supplies or direct experience yet, but I've done a fair amount of work on R/C gear over the years, including soldering remote triggers into camera circuit boards. Kinda like doing heart surgery on a gerbil!
Thanks folks,I'll keep you posted

 

[sando7]

A4.2, U3.8
Resistance of the working coil is going down as it gets worked/used,or over-worked/used in this case. I've been hitting it pretty hard the last couple of days. I'll give the other tanks a workout and see if the local shop has a replacement coil.
I'm interested to see if it's a broken coil or just a loose leg from the factory. Either way, I would think repairs can be done. I don't have any building supplies or direct experience yet, but I've done a fair amount of work on R/C gear over the years, including soldering remote triggers into camera circuit boards. Kinda like doing heart surgery on a gerbil!
Thanks folks,I'll keep you posted

yep, one of the coils is bad, fer-sure

 

[diceman1000]

Dang I, I forgot about them being dual coil...

 

[Traijan]

Is my MVP2 shot already?

When my power button shows yellow, I usually plug in my MVP2 to charge it back up, but while it's on the charger and the battery is low (low enough to make the power button yellow) that I will hit on it and will many times end up getting a shorter than normal vape before the power button flashes green like it does if you take a longer than 10 second hit. I hope that made sense.

It's got me wondering if perhaps my MVP2 battery is nearing the end of it's life cycle. I made sure to count the seconds of my draw on the device and sometimes the green flashing light will happen at 6 seconds, other times at 8 seconds and always with a draw of 10 seconds.

My MVP2 is only about 6 to 8 months old and I'm not really a chain vaper (at least not all the time) so while it's gotten some use over the past 6 to 8 months it hasn't been chain vaping use that whole time.

Is this a sign that the battery and or circuitry inside of it is faulting?

 

[vince01]

I would have a go at resetting it first

it involves a sequence of switching on and off

that Im not sure of, but I m sure someone with more nouse will be along shortly

alternatively you could look back through the thread

I m sure the issue was discussed a couple of weeks ago

 

[jandry]

So far along into my vaping journey now, and I wouldnt have analogs back to save my life (intentionally ironic). I love being able to sneak 3 or 4 drags off my MVP between this errand or that one. Smoke breaks were such a pain in the a**. No mess, dont have to worry about where to put it out, etc etc. I also find that I dont really need nicotine like I used to as well- I dont even think about it until I get a chance and then I think "id like to have a vape".

Its really a damn shame vaping didnt exist back in 2001-2002 when I started smoking.

 

[vince01]

Nail-on-head Jandry

except you can wind the clock back to 65 for me

 

[garyoa1]

Its really a damn shame vaping didnt exist back in 2001-2002 when I started smoking.

Some trivia...

Actually... it did in the form of the cig-a likes. Just really hard to find and most came directly from China. And generally... kinda sucked. But it was invented in China in 1963.

 

[philoshop]

I can't really imagine where vaping would be today if we had it readily available while sitting in 'the circle' in the 70's. Then again, we didn't have home computers or cell phones either.

I pulled the coil from the iclear apart and one of the legs was broken. Thanks again Sando. Ordered some wick & wire to get her steaming again.

 

[ST Dog]

Smoke breaks were such a pain in the a**. No mess, dont have to worry about where to put it out, etc etc.

Learned to field strip a .... in the military. Never had trouble putting one out. Fire out on your shoe, split the paper, dump the tobacco and roll the rest up and in the pocket til you found a garbage can. Was super easy when I rolled my own as the remains was a tiny ball of paper.

Given the recent date, you missed the days when that wasn't such an issue. Back when you could smoke in your office and such.
Even in 1994 I was able to smoke in an office at a state university.
A trip to Vegas in 2002 reminded me of those days as you could smoke damned near anywhere you wanted.


Vaping returns some of the freedom we used to have, though many place still restrict it due to ignorance and/or fear.

 

[VapieDan]

I can't really imagine where vaping would be today if we had it readily available while sitting in 'the circle' in the 70's. Then again, we didn't have home computers or cell phones either.

I pulled the coil from the iclear apart and one of the legs was broken. Thanks again Sando. Ordered some wick & wire to get her steaming again.

Even earlier the 1960's. Was the technology not there or did big tobacco kill it as they are trying once again?

In 1963, Herbert Gilbert patented "a smokeless non-tobacco cigarette". In his patent Gilbert described how his device worked, by "replacing burning tobacco and paper with heated, moist, flavored air." Gilbert's device involved no nicotine, smokers of Gilbert's device enjoyed flavored steam. Attempts to commercialize Gilbert's invention failed and his product fell into obscurity. However, it deserves a mention as the earliest patent for an electronic cigarette.
Better known is the the invention of Chinese pharmacist Hon Lik, who patented the first nicotine based electronic cigarette in 2003. The following year, Hon Lik was the first person to manufacture and sell such a product, first in the Chinese market and then internationally.

 

[celticluvr]

I figured out one thing to remember about my mvp....

Do NOT drop it on your toes!!!


Seriously does not feel nice!

 

[sando7]

I figured out one thing to remember about my mvp....

Do NOT drop it on your toes!!!


Seriously does not feel nice!

the VTR is even worse, not only stiches but you get a Popsicle stick wrapped around your toe

 

[sando7]

thought i'd share what i think is a good find and it's sorta related, a nice little lockable case to hold your MVP or a minimal amount of Vape gear.....i use mine as a rebuilding box to hold all my wire and tools...if anyone is interested.........if you walk inStore you can find them on the back wall in the Pharmacy section.....where you ask, Wally-World of-course
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vaultz-Locking-Medicine-Case/28904365

some of the re viewers have had trouble with setting-up & using the lock codes, i never bothered i just use it without and it works fine, besides if someone wanted in the box the lock won't do any good anyway and the button press is too stiff for a child to open so it all works out.

 

[Major911]

Hi folks! New to the thread, and as of Friday the proud new owner of an MVP2. I've actually read through this entire thread in the last few days!
The ego batteries were getting a bit anemic after 3 months, so the helpful folks at ECF steered me towards the MVP. I'm using the iclear30 that was part of the kit, as well as the assorted ego-style clearos that I've accumulated. The MVP just rocks 'em all!

Quick question though: The built-in meter on the MVP is currently reading 4.2 ohms on the iclear. It was at 4.0 ohms when brand new. The other tanks give a pretty accurate reading with respect to the labeling on the coils that they have. Anyone have an idea why the iclear would give me that reading? It seems to be working just fine otherwise. Great taste and great vape all around.

Thanks for the great thread. I'm sure I'll be around here quite a bit in the coming months.

96 days smoke-free!

Are you sure your reading the ohms? Sounds like the remaining battery power your reading by mistake.

 

[ST Dog]

Even earlier the 1960's. Was the technology not there or did big tobacco kill it as they are trying once again?

Maybe both, but for sure battery technology wasn't what it is now and even now battery life is a big issue.

What many want is a 510 size battery (cig-a-like) that lasts for days on a charge (say 4-5 AHr).

 

[JimmyDB]

Maybe both, but for sure battery technology wasn't what it is now and even now battery life is a big issue.

What many want is a 510 size battery (cig-a-like) that lasts for days on a charge (say 4-5 AHr).

Why stop there What we all want is an infinitely small power source that lasts indefinitely.

Seriously though, most people want something 'more' than what is available, and it generally stays that way.

Even earlier the 1960's. Was the technology not there or did big tobacco kill it as they are trying once again?

The technology... well, NiChrome and similar weren't what they are today... but glowing coils were around and common enough.

The real issue is that there wasn't a good 'reason' or 'drive' to change things so much back then, even today with the utterly inexpensiveness of vaping, so many still refuse.

Either way... I have been intrigued by these inhaler type NRTs that don't use any electricity... I intend to check them out, although since they are big pharma... I'm betting the only way around the patents would be for everyone to make their own.

On more topic specific note... the wife and I are now both MVP2 owners. I like the MVP2... I do wish there were a few things done differently...
User swappable batteries (18650 or flat packs)
Higher output on the USB port
User replaceable tank connector
Recessed side buttons

...and I am sure there are other things if I asked the wife. Either way, for the money... very nice. Very happy with how long the battery has been lasting so far. I am still using the factory charge... since mid-day on Sunday.

 

[ST Dog]

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Why stop there What we all want is an infinitely small power source that lasts indefinitely.

Well, we got by with lighters that lasted a few days between refills (carried a Zippo for 25+ years) or a few weeks for disposables (Bic says 3000 strikes, so ~150 packs, but most people would misplace a Bic before that)

So, I'd be happy with a small (510 or Ego 650mAh size) battery that lasted as long as my lighter did between refills (recharge).
It'd also be nice to have a battery that was stil working 25 years later.

User swappable batteries (18650 or flat packs)

anyone know what the discharge rating for cell phone/camera/camcorder type LiPo packs are?
I always thought a 2000-3000 mAh phone battery would make for a good package.
Or for a smaller package, a battery like the Canon NB2L (7.4V 800mAh) or the Sony NP-FM50 (7.4V 1500 mAh)

 

[garyoa1]

Still have a pile of old zippos on da shelf.

 

[JimmyDB]

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Well, we got by with lighters that lasted a few days between refills (carried a Zippo for 25+ years) or a few weeks for disposables (Bic says 3000 strikes, so ~150 packs, but most people would misplace a Bic before that)

So, I'd be happy with a small (510 or Ego 650mAh size) battery that lasted as long as my lighter did between refills (recharge).
It'd also be nice to have a battery that was stil working 25 years later.



anyone know what the discharge rating for cell phone/camera/camcorder type LiPo packs are?
I always thought a 2000-3000 mAh phone battery would make for a good package.
Or for a smaller package, a battery like the Canon NB2L (7.4V 800mAh) or the Sony NP-FM50 (7.4V 1500 mAh)

Ok... are you willing to dump out a mass of material versus plugging the battery in to recharge it (just like you add fuel to your lighter or car)? If so, then you are in luck... as there are batteries that can give you the time you want, if you don't mind refilling them... but at that point it's kind of like just replacing the battery. Either way, there are zinc based batteries where you dump out the material and pour in new material. I would have to look up some of the specs though to be sure if it would have enough capacity and the draw rate you want and fit within the size specs, but I'm pretty sure it would based on the applications I have seen used in the past... but they were larger and it may not scale down that well.

As far as Li+ cellular batteries... the ones I have worked with in the past normally topped out at around 3C max 'safe' draw, with reality being more like 2C for any 'human' amount of time. Smartphones just don't normally draw high current very long, so they don't need to use batteries made for that. It's cheaper/easier/faster to make lower draw batteries.