MYTHS and FACTS about Batteries + mods

[kinabaloo]

LOL kina

Would be handy sometimes were it possible

Not actually tried it though ...

 

[GrimmGreen]

Cash is my hero... sup warp

 

[Zofryer]

A: Name calling makes people feel powerful

Name calling makes me feel powerful.

 

[Zofryer]

sorry, but I am no afterthought...

You aren't. I just missed ya. Your device is good, machined, attractive, and a fair price. No offense intended. I also missed the Janty Stick, which has a lot of features nobody has.

 

[WhateveR]

sorry, but I am no afterthought...

Look I'm not taking anything away from you... we both know how much work this all is... we can agree to disagree... I take pride in my work... I'm not saying I am the only one... I am only pointing out that I was first... that is all...

how is this a fine line?

and since YOU brought it up I'm curious... are you saying you didn't???

I never said or never meant you "stole" my design... as the prodigy and the adaptever are obviously quite different... If I remember right, I said you copied the concept or at least that is what I meant... but I'm cool with that, and I know where my ideas came from. btw: it was long before I even knew what an SD was...

but whatever... I'm outta here... I have more important things (work) to do than argue about concepts on an internet forum...

 

[ZambucaLu]

Wow....looks like some people totally forgot the rules here:

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

So enough with the insults and foul language....or you won't be happy with the results.

Lu

 

[WhateveR]

You aren't. I just missed ya. Your device is good, machined, attractive, and a fair price. No offense intended. I also missed the Janty Stick, which has a lot of features nobody has.

I do appreciate that!

 

[warp1900]

not even a mention of the AdapteveR... how quickly people forget all my hard work several months ago... or all the stolen concepts.... there was only the SD before me... sad how quickly people forget who started this whole seen... and this whole debate...

WhateveR I sincerely apologize about forgetting to mention it, (not really intentional), I know you worked hard on it and i do like it.
Thank you for reminding me.

 

[SharonLM]

and since YOU brought it up I'm curious... are you saying you didn't???

I never said or never meant you "stole" my design... as the prodigy and the adaptever are obviously quite different... If I remember right, I said you copied the concept or at least that is what I meant... but I'm cool with that, and I know where my ideas came from. btw: it was long before I even knew what an SD was...

but whatever... I'm outta here... I have more important things (work) to do than argue about concepts on an internet forum...

Yes Sir you do, you need to get busy on that sleeve.....I am waiting..... please!!

 

[abudman]

I am sorry Trypwyr, i wish the original writer of a thread would be able to "moderate" in it, but unfortunately, that is not possible. Many manufacturers need their egos stroked frequently.
Maybe i should have just "closed" the thread right after i posted it, but as much as i knew this one would cause severe vowel contortions
to some, i was not expecting the speed at which all this happened.
The side rants were started by others and carried throughout, Cash is a manufacturer and he does not like anyone any mention of his products that might be contrary to what he wants people to believe.
The truth is he entered this thread with a veiled bellicose attitude right from the start and when others started talking about his own product, he just went ballistic.

I hope your future experiences here at the forum are less confusing and annoying.

Thank you for taking the time to read my thread and posting your opinion.

I'm only on page 10 of this diatribe yet this one got me, the makers are simply defending themselves... I believe your posts on YouTube created the negativity... I have never bought any of these mods but to attack someone who "feels" they got a better hit or "feels" they got more vapor is ignorance at it's best... If I "feel" one product is better than another because I "feel" that it's working for me than it's true to me and I'm just expressing that.

By your reasoning K & N who make air filters ( K&N High Performance Air Filters, Oil Filters, & Air Intakes - Official K&N Engineering Site ) aren't making their own product because they don't make cars.

Disclaimer:
1: I am not in any way associated with K & N
2: I'm not a fanboy of anything except vaping and beer
3: I read the OP as an attack myself.

 

[dumwaldo]

One more knucklehead that doesn't understand that i don't sell anyhting?

Welcome to the club.
Where did i claim i invented anything?
All my mods and or ideas are posted for anyone to copy, perfect or just ignore.
Do you have a personal problem about it or me directly?
Feel free to PM and we can talk about it, quit filling the thread with more useless unrelated garbage.

So does the bicycle mount still work with this monstrosity?
YouTube - L-E-VAPER

 

[Zofryer]

Warp, meant no disrespect. I was just itching for a good fight. I admit it. Rewatched the Rocky movies recently....

 

[emsmom]

Going back to the OP. Please do not flame me, I am simply asking. With all the new adapters modders are putting on their cases, does the design of the adapter not make a difference in performance? My experience shows that there is a difference. Seems to me, some of these adapters will change airflow, therefore change draw, taste, etc.... So I would say yes there is a difference and these are not just battery holders. JMO

 

[taukimada]

So enough with the insults and foul language....or you won't be happy with the results.

Lu

darn... i was hoping you'd breakout the whips and chains for me tonight ;P

i'm salty.. want a lick?

 

[warp1900]

Going back to the OP. Please do not flame me, I am simply asking. With all the new adapters modders are putting on their cases, does the design of the adapter not make a difference in performance? My experience shows that there is a difference. Seems to me, some of these adapters will change airflow, therefore change draw, taste, etc.... So I would say yes there is a difference and these are not just battery holders. JMO

I agree that subtle differences such as air draw do make a difference, but only on the negative side, Atomizers were designed for certain amount of air to go through them . So anything you can do to alter it will as far as today ,make the performance worse not better.

And again, that is only my own opinion.

 

[Stickless]

I love threads like this...

They always help the newbs identify the fanboys so they can make a better informed decision when purchasing products.

A less entertaining thread:

Entertaining thread in bunnyland - ECigScrewdriver

 

[warp1900]

Warp, meant no disrespect. I was just itching for a good fight. I admit it. Rewatched the Rocky movies recently....

LOL, no hard feelings Zofryer, i understand.
Sorry it took me quite a while to find this post from you, this has become so crazy i can't put up with the pace

Stay cool and don't watch too much Rocky , you could get stuck in the 70's hehe.

 

[wv2win]

Maybe some people just know how to work their equipment better than you do.

You made my point without even knowing it, which is typical. With the PV's I recommend and use, unlike the SmokeEverywhere, 4081 POS, you don't HAVE to "work" it to get consistent good performance. But I understand that some people are just very slow and it takes them much longer to grasp obvious concepts.

 

[abudman]

I agree that subtle differences such as air draw do make a difference, but only on the negative side, Atomizers were designed for certain amount of air to go through them . So anything you can do to alter it will as far as today ,make the performance worse not better.

And again, that is only my own opinion.

I thought you were debunking myths, how can you do that with opinions?

 

[warp1900]

This thread has been an interesting read.

My take is basically similar to the OP - the "vaping experience" is a function of: choice of atomiser and juice (the main bits) and voltage (a matter of choice as that alters the experience of both the atomiser and the juice). The "consistency" of the vaping experience is about batteries.

So the "big battery device" is indeed a means of attaching a reliable power source at the voltage of choice to the atomiser of choice to vape the juice of choice... It is basically that and nothing more.

What affects choice of big battery device? Clearly aesthetics, ergonomics, price, reliability, service and significantly, it appears, prejudice.

Lets look at a few of these in perspective:

Price - frankly, if you could afford to smoke, all of the big battery devices are affordable - I was spending 50 UKP a WEEK on cigarettes.

So, not price, but possibly "value for money"? This is much more subjective - for me, if I get something that does what I want at a price I can afford, and the device is reliable and I can get it fixed if it should break eventually, I've got VFM

Service - if something breaks - I have two choices - mend it myself or get it mended. I prefer to get it mended. I see no evidence that any of the big battery device vendors don't mend things. Quality of service? It's clear that most of the vendors a) actually provide pretty good service and b) have managed to piss at least one or two people off (that's business for you)

Aesthetics? Eye of the beholder stuff - meh (as some say)

Ergonomics - if you like the way it works it's ergonomic, if you don't it isn't. I like "button on the end" a la SD and Adaptever others don't - whatever.

As for whether something is made entirely from UK, US, Australian, Mongolian or Martian components of original conception, I don't give a toss - if it works well (for me) and doesn't break that's the job done.

Not being ignored here prof,
This became a crazy place and i have never seen such response before, your post got buried with so many others, sorry.
It seems that basically you have a very similar idea only expressed in different words.

Thank you for your contribution to it.