NEW RoyalSmokers C-E2 R4 Review, Tips, Info, Help, Video

[br5495]

he s'posed to be buildin' summin?

Were you not there last night when we were discussing it?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iew-tips-info-help-video-146.html#post2095659

 

[br5495]

Good points 'br', it seems like fixing the wick lengths would be the easiest thing for them to do.

You would think so. I believe this must be done before we can pass judgment on them.

 

[stephenluke]

Bad, I have been experimenting with the wick on several of these things, not just the ones that everyone have seen here. So far, the ones that I have extended the wicks on have improved the performance.

I've also extended the wicks, but I just pulled the two loops to the bottom and the resulting two ends are at the slits. In other words, I now only have two long loops all the way to the bottom (they're long enough to gather on the bottom). It seems to be wicking better for me.

 

[br5495]

I wouldnt do that Stormy....at least take a match and see if it burns like plastic. ......

I done it. It burns like wild fire when dry.

 

[br5495]

I've also extended the wicks, but I just pulled the two loops to the bottom and the resulting two ends are at the slits. In other words, I now only have two long loops all the way to the bottom (they're long enough to gather on the bottom). It seems to be wicking better for me.

It may perform better if they are all down there. It did for me, but that was going by only two examples. Not enough to be a good test yet.

 

[dannoman]

omg yes ...I was just adding to badloko's repeated exoneration to you this morning:

"you better be building what you know your suppose to be building since we discussed you building it last night despite that you didnt want to build it but im sure you know how important building it would be. say that 10 times real fast
behave or no overstuffed oreos. "

Speaking of which overstuff oreos does sound good about now...off for a buffet lunch...

 

[stephenluke]

It may perform better if they are all down there. It did for me, but that was going by only two examples. Not enough to be a good test yet.

I'll try tying extensions to the ends at the slits on the next dry burn. I'm also tempted to try cutting the loops to see if a bunch of strands as opposed to loops makes any difference.

 

[v1John]

the upside down carto may not need all that wick

and speaking of 'down' isn't it relative? for peoplee who vape with the ecig sideways, the bottom is actually one whole side of the carto.

 

[Turbo]

I'll try tying extensions to the ends at the slits on the next dry burn. I'm also tempted to try cutting the loops to see if a bunch of strands as opposed to loops makes any difference.

I think it was 'bad' that cut the wick loop into strands. There was a reason why someone didn't like it, can't remember why..

 

[stephenluke]

I think it was 'bad' that cut the wick loop into strands. There was a reason why someone didn't like it, can't remember why..

oh, good to know! I won't waste my time then.

 

[CloudBurst]

Personally, I'm not planning on tearing all my carts apart to lengthen the wick. I don't think it's a huge deal unless you NEVER tip your PV. In my observations on the syringe mods, The juice sticks to the wick like glue, so if you roll it, tip it or lay it down it's gonna stick to the wick. I think we have everyone who has ever bought them believing that they are literally "no good" because of the wicks, I don't believe this to be so. JMO
With that said...I'm becoming more and more convinced that the PTB with no wick is the best (with the stock cart). Syringe mod with PTB and no wick is my next mod.

 

[br5495]

oh, good to know! I won't waste my time then.

If you do another one in the future, use my old trick that I explained in a previous post. It seems to work just as well and is a lot easier to do.

 

[stephenluke]

Personally, I'm not planning on tearing all my carts apart to lengthen the wick. I don't think it's a huge deal unless you NEVER tip your PV. In my observations on the syringe mods, The juice sticks to the wick like glue, so if you roll it, tip it or lay it down it's gonna stick to the wick. I think we have everyone who has ever bought them believing that they are literally "no good" because of the wicks, I don't believe this to be so. JMO

I agree in the case of a smaller syringe mod. I've noticed on larger tubes, I'll get a dry spot once the level of the liquid falls. A quick turn solves this problem and it's not a big deal, but I still would like to find a solution. It sucks being a perfectionist...

 

[Turbo]

oh, good to know! I won't waste my time then.

Here you go, can't believe I found it! Concerning cutting the wick loops into strands:

'tonypilot7':

I sacrificed the cart and did an autopsy and found that when you unravel the wick, it will slide out from inside the coil. I ended up with a bunch of wadded up fibers in the cart reservoir, but very few that were still connected. When I put the ptb's in place, it pulled more out from inside the coil.

'br's response:

Yes guys, I forgot to mention why i did not like the unraveling method. it can be done succesfully but its pain once you start cleaning and reinserting ptb.
it can cause strands to pull out form the coil area

 

[stephenluke]

If you do another one in the future, use my old trick that I explained in a previous post. It seems to work just as well and is a lot easier to do.

I'm looking forward to trying it.

 

[zoiDman]

I don't have time today or tomorrow to post much on the "Upside Down" Carto. But should be able to post some rough dwg of it on Sunday. Something to consider when mentaly toying with this type of design is to think "Bigger".

ie: Why do we have stay with a .370"/9.3mm diameter Carto body?

 

[Quick1]

I wouldnt do that Stormy....at least take a match and see if it burns like plastic. Even if it doesnt burn and its plastic...it can create some really bad chemicals from heating. Wood fibers are bleached and have binders in them too. But its up to you.

From wikipedia:
"Tea bag paper is related to paper found in milk and coffee filters. It is made with a blend of wood and vegetable fibers. The vegetable fiber is bleached pulp abaca hemp, a small plantation tree grown for the fiber, mostly in the Philippines and Colombia. Heat-sealed tea bag paper usually has a heat-sealable thermoplastic such as PVC or polypropylene, as a component fiber on inner side of the teabag surface."

PTB is 100% synthetic. I forget the particular "plastic/nylon/polymer" it's made from. Somebody asked Lipton way back when it was first tried in attys. That's why it has to be Lipton Pyramid Tea bags. There's some popular European tea that also has Pyramid Tea bags but it's not the same material.

 

[Turbo]

i love the ptb modded syringe tank mod, works like a beast

oh and i officially hate the wick, the taste between the ptb and the wick is night and day.

Nice, I saw the video too. I'm making one this weekend. How long did you cut the syringe tube? And, I also notice that the base is not flush w/ the threads, did you do something to seal it or is the fit tight enough to seal?

 

[br5495]

Well the upside down mod does not work very well. I suppose I could say that it works too well. It didn't leak, but the atty was flooded. So much so that 4.2 volts could not vape off the excess. I'm sure I could reduce it, but it would have to be a one of a kind deal. Not something that everyone could do the same way. The wicking problems we have now are simple. Getting it right for anything near mass production would be a nightmare by comparison.

I'm not at all surprised. It's one of the problems that I expected. Something like this will probably not be successful unless the correct amount of juice is injected for each puff. So this is what I get for not slapping my hands from the keyboard. It's been fun humoring you kids though, so I'm not complaining.

Now, don't anybody say anything about using filler with this thing. There's no point for us to reinvent the wheel. PTB neither. It's so ............ yesterday, heheh.

Edit: Can I come out of the basement now and get a breath of fresh air? Huh? Huh?

 

[Turbo]

Bummer 'br', I kinda thought that may happen w/ it being submerged in fluid.