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[dannoman]

I haven't done a syringe mod yet but want to try one today once I get a bunch of work off my plate. Where do you find terumo syringe and to others, what IS a good syringe to use, 3 ml standard ( w/e standard is). I have a 3ml syringe right now that has 'B-D' stamped on it. And also what are you finding is a good length to cut the syringe to...

I use Terumo, 3ml brand and have never had to use any glue. One end is smaller than the other and I used to put the smaller end at the connector but now I use it on top so it will fit through my modded cone. The larger end still has never needed glue. Another little trick, if you have a sticker on the carto, remove it and leave the glue residue on it, helps it stick. I have about 8 of these and it's all I use now!

 

[CloudBurst]

Any syringe will work if it fits snug. I cut mine and little longer to start and when I get it all assembled with the mouthpiece and bllack plunger, I trim it. Start longer than the original cart.

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[kwcharlie]

I haven't done a syringe mod yet but want to try one today once I get a bunch of work off my plate. Where do you find terumo syringe and to others, what IS a good syringe to use, 3 ml standard ( w/e standard is). I have a 3ml syringe right now that has 'B-D' stamped on it. And also what are you finding is a good length to cut the syringe to...

Don't know what my soft ones had on them except "for single use only", cut them all up. The hard ones i have not cutup have B-D on them, they will work but hard to cut and have to cut both ends. I used a one side razor blade then boil to get over the E2 after cutting it's tube wuth a mini-tubing cutter, just leave 1/2 an inch for the clear boiled tube to go over. Just try it, hardest part will be the cutting, it's worth it, trust me

 

[Quick1]

we need a list of links where to get everything needed to replicate this G.
i also want to test the mesh on a e2 mod. with some playing around we can get that e2 coil vertical and get the mesh inside it to test.

i also seen the jacks before on some other guys mods, it is true plug and play and this raidy guy seems to know his electronics , so i wonder what the benefits are and why it isnt industry wide. (plug and play style)

RCA type jack isn't secure. It doesn't "lock". So when you get something substantial like a battery and the opposing carto etc., AND handle it a lot it's going to be prone to comeing loose and the jack itself is going to loosen over time and the outside contacts are prone to widening and the contacts are prone to oxidation over time. You guys probaby never owned a component stereo... Probably not the best solution. You want something with a positive/locking closure and a lot of surface area for the electrical connection. Stick with the threads.

Btw, they do make nichrome mesh, which would eliminate a bridge mesh and a coil,
what I did is I googled 'nichrome mesh'

ummm... and how do you suppose hot juice is going to wick? and what about boiling what's further inside the roll instead of vaporizing it? and I suppose if you applied enough current you could manage a lava lamp effect in the resevoir...

 

[v1John]

Don't know what my soft ones had on them except "for single use only", cut them all up. The hard ones i have not cutup have B-D on them, they will work but hard to cut and have to cut both ends. I used a one side razor blade then boil to get over the E2 after cutting it's tube wuth a mini-tubing cutter, just leave 1/2 an inch for the clear boiled tube to go over. Just try it, hardest part will be the cutting, it's worth it, trust me

And so what store sells single use and terumos?

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Experiment, Quick1.
Try different lengths, widths, maybe ptb around the cup, etc.
The idea of nichrome mesh wasn't a very big roll wrapped 50times, maybe just once or twice? it also just went from slit to slit, not all the way to the other end of the carto. I don't know, experiment is what I should have said.

Don't they sell screw on rca-like jacks?

 

[bluegabs]

your using them at a higher volt then you should, yours might be alower ohm. if your using it at 3.7v then try 3.5 and below

im using the 3.0 ohm cartos... i think my kr808 batteries are 4.2volt...i have no clue about the 510 (blu) i have too..

 

[kwcharlie]

And so what store sells single use and terumos?

I don't know, going to Stores to check, the ones that were soft and said "single use" came from one of the ecig venders i/we deal with, MadVaps, COV, Drew, don't remember.

 

[Turbo]

I got some at WalMart.

What section did you find it in? The 'Mighty Fixit Tape' that is.

I use Terumo, 3ml brand and have never had to use any glue. One end is smaller than the other and I used to put the smaller end at the connector but now I use it on top so it will fit through my modded cone. The larger end still has never needed glue. Another little trick, if you have a sticker on the carto, remove it and leave the glue residue on it, helps it stick. I have about 8 of these and it's all I use now!

Where do you find that brand? I did use the smaller end and left adhesive on the carto part. Another issue/question is where one cuts the syringe. I cut mine just above the plunger and just below the tip.

There is more than one outside diameter for the E2 cartomizer tube. The differences are very slight, but possibly enough for one to fit too tight, just right, or not quite tight enough when using them in various mods.

These slight differences also apply to the inside diameter.

Good point 'br'.

 

[Turbo]

I don't know, going to Stores to check, the ones that were soft and said "single use" came from one of the ecig venders i/we deal with, MadVaps, COV, Drew, don't remember.

'stephenluke' told me he had good luck w/ Vapor Junction's syringes too. I'm going to our feed store to see if they differ from the ones my nursing friend gave me.

Also, here's a Google search for Terumo syringes.

 

[stephenluke]

And so what store sells single use and terumos?

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You could try going to a tattoo parlor. They have sryinges and accessories you can use to make one.

If you're lucky enough to have 99cent stores around you'll find all kinds of stuff to make tube mods from. I've used cosmetic tubes, fragrance tubes, packaging tubes etc... Plus you can use the silicone grips that some pens have to adapt, or pencil grips, small hair rubber bands, baby bottle nipples, etc. I just bought a bunch of stuff and played with all of it until I found what worked without too much effort.

 

[Turbo]

If you're lucky enough to have 99cent stores around you'll find all kinds of stuff to make tube mods from.

What's the best ID/OD for non leaking you've found?

 

[stephenluke]

Another issue/question is where one cuts the syringe.
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That depends on the tip you're using and how it's assembled. I've found that if using a syringe that fits the carto tube, then you only need enough tube above the cup to stabilize the top piece. I find it easier to assemble the mod leaving extra length and then trim the top as needed depending on what I'm using as a top/mouthpiece.

 

[stephenluke]

What's the best ID/OD for non leaking you've found?

They're all different. I don't think there's a best ID/OD. Vinyl tubing is a great adapter and will make any tube leak proof. You just need various sizes of the vinyl tubing to adapt it. Soft silicone pencil or pen grips are great because of their compression abilities, but because of that they end up being a bit wobbly unless you leave a good amount of stem on the carto base.

 

[Quick1]

Experiment, Quick1.
Try different lengths, widths,

1 foot? 0.1 inch? what did you have in mind? Please post the pictures.

maybe ptb around the cup, etc.

Oh, I thought you were talking about nichrome mesh... I think someone tried ptb around the cup and said to use 3 folds. Do you have pics of that?

The idea of nichrome mesh wasn't a very big roll wrapped 50times, maybe just once or twice?

How thick is it? What micron mesh do you recommend? What is the resistance of the piece of mesh that you have in mind? and what current for what wattage do you think would work best?

it also just went from slit to slit, not all the way to the other end of the carto.

It did? Can you post the pic? I didn't see any slits on the genesis? were you suggesting nichrome mesh for the E2? I thought we failed that and had moved on. I remember you suggested nichrome mesh for the E2 a long time ago. How did that work out?

I don't know, experiment is what I should have said.

We're ready to experiment, just not clear on what you wanted us to try for you.

Don't they sell screw on rca-like jacks?

Yes?... ummm... what do you see as the advantage to that over what we have now?

 

[dannoman]

I am wondering...wouldn't just a simple trip to CVS or a Walgreens yield this stuff or do they not put that stuff out on the shelf?

'stephenluke' told me he had good luck w/ Vapor Junction's syringes too. I'm going to our feed store to see if they differ from the ones my nursing friend gave me.

Also, here's a Google search for Terumo syringes.

 

[Turbo]

I am wondering...wouldn't just a simple trip to CVS or a Walgreens yield this stuff or do they not put that stuff out on the shelf?

You could try them. They gave me hassle at our Walgreens since they had them behind the shelves. Many people get them from there though.

I've got all mine from a nursing friend but our local feed store has some too.

 

[Turbo]

They're all different. I don't think there's a best ID/OD. Vinyl tubing is a great adapter and will make any tube leak proof. You just need various sizes of the vinyl tubing to adapt it. Soft silicone pencil or pen grips are great because of their compression abilities, but because of that they end up being a bit wobbly unless you leave a good amount of stem on the carto base.

True, per 'br's point earlier. I wasn't listening...lol

 

[dannoman]

lol it looks like modders been raiding that first link's stock - OOS on the 18 guage Terumo...thanks Turbo for the linky

 

[v1John]

Quik1 the thread is not only about genisis, it's about E2 more than anything, the post you're talking about is about an idea for the E2. There are no specific micron dimensions yet because it's stil in the idea development stage, that's why it seems to me so acwkward when you started posting like that. I posted an idea of using nichrome mesh instead of the coil and without needing wick, other than maybe ptb outside the cup, or maybe you missed the posts, I don't know. More than demanding specific micron dimensions from me, I was thinking ideas out loud, in such a manner that dimensons are still flexible and even some further changes are very possible.

(A company in Michigan that I found which carries mesh of many metals, sizes, etc:
link:
Phoenix Wire Cloth Specialists Providers of wire cloth and wire mesh materials. )

 

[Quick1]

More than demanding specific micron dimensions from me, I was thinking ideas out loud, in such a manner that dimensons are still flexible and even some further changes are very possible.

(A company in Michigan that I found which carries mesh of many metals, sizes, etc:
link:
Phoenix Wire Cloth Specialists Providers of wire cloth and wire mesh materials. )

I think the welded wire mesh shows great promise. Someone should try that.
http://www.phoenixwirecloth.com/wireweld.htm