NEW RoyalSmokers C-E2 R4 Review, Tips, Info, Help, Video

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nickf41680

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I'll get mine in tomorrow and put it aside until I get the promised 'specialty' ego...

I'm waiting for my kit as well.... I'm really confused on this whole thing..... I can't imagine what this ego has that mine and my other mods do not have..... Honestly I hope there is something diff atleast fr rod's sake...
 

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I must have missed something catching up on this thread. What is a specialty ego?

It is a ego "type" not sure if it's a real ego that is designed to work with the tankomizer and eliminate the problems bad had encountered..... So we call it the special one bc no one knows what could actually be diff about this one..that would make it perform any better than another mod....
 

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:offtopic: You don't like Fox News?
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Based on these, just for starters. These threads come from Geoff's subforum, from his fans, not critics.

I have nothing against TV's juices and never did. If you have more questions about juices, please start a thread in the appropriate subforum ('Requests for opinions', for instance). We don't want to hijack Bad's thread. Sorry, Bad. :blush:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tasty-vapor/120177-geoffs-blend-cloggin-up-my-cartos.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tasty-vapor/121848-tobacco-blown-attys.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tasty-vapor/105135-tv-killing-my-carts.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tasty-vapor/118164-ac-not-what-used-me.html

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OK, this will be my last post on this thread and I'm not gonna start a new one 'cause I'm not looking for opinions - I read a good portion of the links you provided to TV's subforum and it doesn't matter - one was a long discussion primarily about a particular flavor but you left out or just glossed over the fact that you made a blanket condemnation of a vendor's product (not a hint that you had nothing against TV in that post) and you seemed to have missed the fact that with all of my TV juices, I've never experienced a clogged carto or atty - You think Fox is News?????
 

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Well late to the party is better then never!!! Finally bought some R4's from MadVapes. Didn't research and ended up buying the 2.5Ω ones. At first I hated them. Couldn't tell when they were full, dry, and taste was terrible etc... However, once I found this thread and skimmed through it and found the tank mods I made one out of the syringe I had. It is working like a charm now. I have the regular size and am getting roughly 30 big drops into it when totally dry. Taste and vapor is awesome on a 3.7 device! and it tastes the same until I see the wick start to dry up a little. Thanks for all the info in this thread!!!
 

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Dude lol...I say this in good nature but you don't happen to think MessNBC is news do you?

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OK, this will be my last post on this thread and I'm not gonna start a new one 'cause I'm not looking for opinions - I read a good portion of the links you provided to TV's subforum and it doesn't matter - one was a long discussion primarily about a particular flavor but you left out or just glossed over the fact that you made a blanket condemnation of a vendor's product (not a hint that you had nothing against TV in that post) and you seemed to have missed the fact that with all of my TV juices, I've never experienced a clogged carto or atty - You think Fox is News?????
 

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I know everyone is quick to eliminate them. Sure the flavor is better w/o them but they're there for a reason; one being they slow down the event of getting 'juiced'. Case in point; I'm using a PTB r3 XL now. I usually put the second ring flat side down and eliminate the filler ring, which I've tried flat side down too. Either way it's prone to leak/juice. So I tried putting the filler ring in flat side down and the second ring groove side down. The result is less juicing.

I've noticed, as most have, w/ the syringe/bottle mods, the condensation buildup. As this builds up it can overflow to the mouthpiece or in some case, down the air flow tube as 'br' pointed out a while ago.

For now I choose to use all caps. Send 'em my way if you don't want them...lol
 

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I'm using r3s also until my order comes in today! I had one out of the 5 that worked just great with the plugs in and ptb. After that a couple were just ok and a couple just wouldn't work with the plugs in. They didn't really work with them out to well either though. The br mod has made one of the worthless pretty good. I'm hoping the r4s will be a little more consistent.
 

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As many of you know, I have been testing the Twin E2 to learn more about crud buildup when the coils are operated at a lower voltage.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iew-tips-info-help-video-226.html#post2149424

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iew-tips-info-help-video-288.html#post2175504

To jog your memory, this one has two E2 3Ω coil and wick assemblies. The coils are connected in series, making them the equivalent of a 6Ω coil. What this all boils down to is that each coil works at 1/2 the applied voltage. In other words, a 5 volt source operates each coil at 2.5 volts. At this voltage, however, the dual wicks give off a bit more vapor than a good working E2 at 3.7 volts. I can get by with less than this and have operated this mod down to 4.2 volts, or 2.1 volts on each coil.

Therefore, the testing for crud buildup was performed within the voltage range of 4.2 to 5 volts, or 2.1 to 2.5 volts on each coil. All testing was done with my juice. Another kind may have yielded different results.

Nothing great has been learned about crud buildup from these tests. Common sense told me ahead of time that the buildup rate should be slower at these lower voltages, and that was confirmed. I ran an awful amount of juice through this thing. The last test was run until the crud was bad enough to noticeably reduce the performance. This required several days of vaping myself silly. So, about all this test amounted to is that if you can get by with operating your E2 at a lower voltage, then you can go a bit longer before rejuvenating the coil. I'll also say that the coil may have a longer life with less voltage.

Now it would seem that this test was a waste of time. That is not the case. One wick is free standing and it picks up a bit better than the one in the slots. The coil runs a bit cooler for this reason and the crud buildup is slower than the other. This is not all that noticeable by looking at it during use, but it shows up right away during a dry burn. It burns completely clean while the other one is still struggling to burn enough black off to see a glow. I suspect there may be more involved here than just this observation, but that's yet to be determined.

Before you begin thinking that we need a free standing wick and coil, there's more you should know. This wick is not controlled and it does too much. While standing upright, it drips a small amount while not in use. For that matter, the one in the slots does too much. Just not as much. As a matter of fact, if this mod is left standing upright overnight, the tank will be empty the next morning. Now, the free standing wick is above the cup, so it does not reach down to the bottom of the tank. Only the one in the slots can drip enough to completely drain the tank.

I don't know what I'll do with this thing now. I'll have to admit that I like it. As a matter of fact, I like it too much. It's too easy to keep getting more out of it, and instant gratification is getting the best of me. I find myself pulling longer on my other ones now to make up the difference. I was afraid this would happen.
 

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I know everyone is quick to eliminate them. Sure the flavor is better w/o them but they're there for a reason; one being they slow down the event of getting 'juiced'. Case in point; I'm using a PTB r3 XL now. I usually put the second ring flat side down and eliminate the filler ring, which I've tried flat side down too. Either way it's prone to leak/juice. So I tried putting the filler ring in flat side down and the second ring groove side down. The result is less juicing.

I've noticed, as most have, w/ the syringe/bottle mods, the condensation buildup. As this builds up it can overflow to the mouthpiece or in some case, down the air flow tube as 'br' pointed out a while ago.

For now I choose to use all caps. Send 'em my way if you don't want them...lol

Turbo,

Just for the hell of it, try an extension. Not a drip tip or other “wide-mouth” orifice, but a 510 cart or similar mouthpiece with an outlet orifice about the same size as the mouthpiece plug the E2’s come with. You’ll need to razor-blade off the reservoir section of the cart, leaving just approx. 1/8” of male to insert into the E2. You can leave the outlet baffle in – or not.

It changes the perceived temperature of the vapor, the drag sensation as a whole, and it’s all but impossible to get juice anywhere near your mouth.

I use one full time on every E2. And condensation is indeed a problem – made worse by the extension… so I’ve altered my drag “technique” to power off while still drawing so as to evacuate as much residual vapor as possible. It comes natural now. The inverted filler ring catches the rest pretty efficiently.

If you prefer warm to very-warm vapor then ignore everything above…
 

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Turbo,

Just for the hell of it, try an extension. Not a drip tip or other “wide-mouth” orifice, but a 510 cart or similar mouthpiece with an outlet orifice about the same size as the mouthpiece plug the E2’s come with. You’ll need to razor-blade off the reservoir section of the cart, leaving just approx. 1/8” of male to insert into the E2. You can leave the outlet baffle in – or not.

It changes the perceived temperature of the vapor, the drag sensation as a whole, and it’s all but impossible to get juice anywhere near your mouth.

I use one full time on every E2. And condensation is indeed a problem – made worse by the extension… so I’ve altered my drag “technique” to power off while still drawing so as to evacuate as much residual vapor as possible. It comes natural now. The inverted filler ring catches the rest pretty efficiently.

If you prefer warm to very-warm vapor then ignore everything above…

Good idea. I made a similar mouthpiece for an old syringe mod that I'll try in the meantime. I've been doing the same drag technique to help w/ the condensation buildup. Thanks for the tip, I HATE getting juiced!
 

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I use a 510 cart body as well because I prefer the cooler vape. Even with the power off method I still get plenty of condensation build up. While not as bad I still manage to get juiced some. Only luck I've had with that is a normal drip tip with a coffee stir straw stuffed in it, but then I had to deal with splatter from the coil.

Yeah, I guess there's no way to totally eliminate it, the nature of the beast. Some are more prone then others, especially those w/ wider slots. I also think once the carto gets close to being empty they're prone to juicing as well. Lotta factors.
 
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