New squonkers

[TrollDragon]

Hmmm... My concern is about unnecessarilily taxing my hardware to achieve the vape I want. I built a 316L coil at 0.18 which ran beautifully at 80w, but if I took more than a few pulls on it, the whole thing would heat up, battery and all. It had me a little worried I was pushing things a little too hard. My thinking is that the closer the set wattage on a mod is to the wattage generated by a coil on bypass, the less taxing on the chip. If I eliminate that factor, I can determine if my build pushes the battery too hard, or if that's just too much heat at the atty being transferred through the mod.

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First, is this a single cell mod or a dual? 80W on a single cell mod is pushing hard on the usable boundary of single cell mods, anything over 50W I throw on a dual. Have you tried this atty on a dual mod to see if it does the same thing. I've had RTAs & RDAs that have retained excessive heat and that heat will transfer down to the mods case.

There are a lot of inefficient mod chipsets out there that will generate heat as well. My old Cuboid would get quite warm at 120W, but if you popped the batteries out they would be cooler than the mods case.

 

[HigherStateD]

First, is this a single cell mod or a dual? 80W on a single cell mod is pushing hard on the usable boundary of single cell mods, anything over 50W I throw on a dual. Have you tried this atty on a dual mod to see if it does the same thing. I've had RTAs & RDAs that have retained excessive heat and that heat will transfer down to the mods case.

There are a lot of inefficient mod chipsets out there that will generate heat as well. My old Cuboid would get quite warm at 120W, but if you popped the batteries out they would be cooler than the mods case.

It's a topside 90w. And, yeah, I was pushing it a little hard. The atty does transfer too, so that was adding to the issue. I've since backed off to 60w, and have no noticeable heat transfer at all, and no heat radiated from the cell now.


On another note, if I could get over a smaller bottle, and no top-fill, I may have found my unicorn...

https://gingervaper.com/product/box...20700-with-evolv-dna250c-temperature-control/



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[Gyrlgeorge]

I have a Pumper 18, a Luna, and a Topside 90W. Have yet to squonk any of them but am quite certain I'll take to it.

Wow. I thought I was the only one. I’ve Two squonkers and yet to try squonking! Too scared.

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

HOLY COW!! ANd man those new doors are amazzzing

Here are the pics of the new doors I got in today for my spade. Pictures don't do them justice.
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Here are the rest of the mods minus one recurve.

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[Gyrlgeorge]

Hi. I’ve a feeling this is the wrong place to post this because I read through this entire thread but no one seemed “new”.
Everyone here really knows their squonking!
So please let me know if there’s a more appropriate place to post this?

I’m new to squonking, (duh) and bought a Dovpo Topside Dual and a Profile RDA last week sometime.

Both have been sitting on the shelf taunting me since then

I’ve just been too nervous and scared to actually use the things.

The more videos I watch, but particularly the more that I read, the more nervous I get. It should be the opposite right ?

I know to you guys it’s super simple. But nothing’s simple to me.

Some questions I have:

How precise must you be building the thing? Cotton too thick? Too thin? Mesh perfectly shaped?

What could I do to really mess up? What could the repercussions be ?

I know dry hits are the big worry

Can the thing light on fire?

Can you over saturate the cotton?

How do you know when to actually squonk?

I know my questions are ridiculous and are probably just common sense -and so obvious that they aren’t even discussed, but again, not to me. It didn’t help that one very popular reviewer thought the Profile RDA was dangerous. Really. He said that.

I do understand that I’ll learn things just by doing but what if I screw up? How dangerous is it?

Thank you to everyone in advance - esp if you got down this far!

 

[Zaryk]

How precise must you be building the thing? Cotton too thick? Too thin? Mesh perfectly shaped?

What could I do to really mess up? What could the repercussions be ?

I know dry hits are the big worry

Can the thing light on fire?

Can you over saturate the cotton?

How do you know when to actually squonk?

1- not super precise. You are better off going a bit to heavy than light though. Shaping the mesh is not hard at all, just run the tool across the inside of the mesh a couple times and it should be just fine.

2- worst I can see is a bad dry hit. Other than that there isn't a lot to worry about. You don't have to worry about coil placement, coil diameters, or any other potential issues standard coil drippers have.

3- If the wicks are bone dry, it is possible to catch fire but it should not be a concern. Every atomizer has this risk. Basically if you are taking a hit then the air comming in makes it so this doesnt happen. That and not taking dry hits repeatedly one after another, lol.

4- No.

5- You will notice the flavor starting to fade.


It is not any more dangerous than any other dripper. I would actually say it is less since it takes the guesswork out of a lot of building and keeps the coil (or mesh in this case) far away from the top cap to help prevent shorts.

Don't trust reviewers. They are very misleading and cause a lot of unnecessary confusion or drama.

 

[rosesense]

You are in the right place for new squonkers and to ask questions. Many of us are new to squonking.

 

[Zazie]

Wow. I thought I was the only one. I’ve Two squonkers and yet to try squonking! Too scared.

I'm not scared, happily. Just too tired to get started on something new. Plus I've got a bad case of vapor's tongue at the moment, and I don't want to fill up a squonk bottle till I know I'm going to be able to taste what I'm vaping. Thinking of switching to unflavored and menthol for a bit to give my taste buds/nose a chance to reset.

 

[rosesense]

I finally got one of the Luna's set up today. I love the Luna but I am not sure if squonking is for me. I seem to cough a lot with any RDA or RBA, I do better with stock coils. Time will tell, I guess.

 

[Zaryk]

I finally got one of the Luna's set up today. I love the Luna but I am not sure if squonking is for me. I seem to cough a lot with any RDA or RBA, I do better with stock coils. Time will tell, I guess.

I would try a different coil (probably a little higher ohm), or adjust the height of the coil to be more in line with the airflow to help cool off the coil and vapor. It may take some tweeking to find your sweet spot and favorite ohm range, but it is worth the effort in the long run and it gets easier over time.

 

[AngeNZ]

Hi. I’ve a feeling this is the wrong place to post this because I read through this entire thread but no one seemed “new”.
Everyone here really knows their squonking!

I'm so new to squonking I don't even have a squonk mod yet

 

[jandrew]

I finally got one of the Luna's set up today. I love the Luna but I am not sure if squonking is for me. I seem to cough a lot with any RDA or RBA, I do better with stock coils. Time will tell, I guess.

How do you typically vape with stock coils? MTL or DL? Regulated? What Wattage?

What kind of RDAs are you trying on the Luna, and what kind of build?

 

[rosesense]

How do you typically vape with stock coils? MTL or DL? Regulated? What Wattage?

What kind of RDAs are you trying on the Luna, and what kind of build?

I am a low wattage, mtl vaper. My throat can't handle anything higher than 15 to 20 watts and I am usually around 10 to 12 w. I use stock coils from .5 to 1.8 ohm. As for building, I have used prebuilt coils, made some with higher ohms and even had a couple 'experts' do builds to make sure it wasn't something I am doing. I have tried 28g and 30g with anywhere from 5 to 8 wraps. Last one I built came in at 2.6 on the ohm reader.

Also, can't handle a lot of airflow nor warm vapor. As for rda's and rba's, I have used everything from ihybrids back in the day with the horrid vertical mesh coils to currently using Oni, Galatek, Berserkers, Coucil of Vapor and a few others.

Thanks for your help on this, I wish I could use even half what many use. I once tried my son's rig which was at 50 watts with a baby beast tank and I almost died. Coughed for half an hour. Guess I will have to sell tons of sub ohm and rda/rba stuff and stick to the zenith and ego coils, those don't bother me.

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

1- not super precise. You are better off going a bit to heavy than light though. Shaping the mesh is not hard at all, just run the tool across the inside of the mesh a couple times and it should be just fine.

2- worst I can see is a bad dry hit. Other than that there isn't a lot to worry about. You don't have to worry about coil placement, coil diameters, or any other potential issues standard coil drippers have.

3- If the wicks are bone dry, it is possible to catch fire but it should not be a concern. Every atomizer has this risk. Basically if you are taking a hit then the air comming in makes it so this doesnt happen. That and not taking dry hits repeatedly one after another, lol.

4- No.

5- You will notice the flavor starting to fade.


It is not any more dangerous than any other dripper. I would actually say it is less since it takes the guesswork out of a lot of building and keeps the coil (or mesh in this case) far away from the top cap to help prevent shorts.

Don't trust reviewers. They are very misleading and cause a lot of unnecessary confusion or drama.

Thank

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

1- not super precise. You are better off going a bit to heavy than light though. Shaping the mesh is not hard at all, just run the tool across the inside of the mesh a couple times and it should be just fine.

2- worst I can see is a bad dry hit. Other than that there isn't a lot to worry about. You don't have to worry about coil placement, coil diameters, or any other potential issues standard coil drippers have.

3- If the wicks are bone dry, it is possible to catch fire but it should not be a concern. Every atomizer has this risk. Basically if you are taking a hit then the air comming in makes it so this doesnt happen. That and not taking dry hits repeatedly one after another, lol.

4- No.

5- You will notice the flavor starting to fade.


It is not any more dangerous than any other dripper. I would actually say it is less since it takes the guesswork out of a lot of building and keeps the coil (or mesh in this case) far away from the top cap to help prevent shorts.

Don't trust reviewers. They are very misleading and cause a lot of unnecessary confusion or drama.

Thank you thank you thank you. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I feel better now. Still haven’t attempted it quite yet. I actually did do the mesh/cotton part but now I’ve got to go over ( and over and over) some Topside Dual videos. I know I overthink everything- it’s a curse. Ok. I’ll be back here after I do this thing. Again, I appreciate your detailed response. And yeah I put too much credence in reviewers videos.

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

I'm not scared, happily. Just too tired to get started on something new. Plus I've got a bad case of vapor's tongue at the moment, and I don't want to fill up a squonk bottle till I know I'm going to be able to taste what I'm vaping. Thinking of switching to unflavored and menthol for a bit to give my taste buds/nose a chance to reset.

That sucks! Geez. That sounds awful honestly. I be super bummed if I got vaper’s tongue. I rely on vaping - it helps me with stress, staying sober and keeps me off sugar. I know. Crazy. But true. Besides the fact that it’s become such a hobby. I hope it goes away for you.

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

I'm so new to squonking I don't even have a squonk mod yet

Well choosing and buying the squonker is the fun part! Or a part of the fun part anyway. It was for me. I haven’t even squonked yet and I’m already looking at other squonkers. Insane. Man I’m tired of typing the word squonk. Haha

 

[Gyrlgeorge]

PS I have never dripped. All I’ve ever done was wattage vaped with a sub ohm tank.

1- not super precise. You are better off going a bit to heavy than light though. Shaping the mesh is not hard at all, just run the tool across the inside of the mesh a couple times and it should be just fine.

2- worst I can see is a bad dry hit. Other than that there isn't a lot to worry about. You don't have to worry about coil placement, coil diameters, or any other potential issues standard coil drippers have.

3- If the wicks are bone dry, it is possible to catch fire but it should not be a concern. Every atomizer has this risk. Basically if you are taking a hit then the air comming in makes it so this doesnt happen. That and not taking dry hits repeatedly one after another, lol.

4- No.

5- You will notice the flavor starting to fade.


It is not any more dangerous than any other dripper. I would actually say it is less since it takes the guesswork out of a lot of building and keeps the coil (or mesh in this case) far away from the top cap to help prevent shorts.

Don't trust reviewers. They are very misleading and cause a lot of unnecessary confusion or drama.

 

[HigherStateD]

Thank you thank you thank you. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I feel better now. Still haven’t attempted it quite yet. I actually did do the mesh/cotton part but now I’ve got to go over ( and over and over) some Topside Dual videos. I know I overthink everything- it’s a curse. Ok. I’ll be back here after I do this thing. Again, I appreciate your detailed response. And yeah I put too much credence in reviewers videos.

If you have any topside specific questions, I may be able to help. I have the 90w version. It really is quite simple. I'd recommend the video by the guy who designed it.



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[Zazie]

That sucks! Geez. That sounds awful honestly. I be super bummed if I got vaper’s tongue. I rely on vaping - it helps me with stress, staying sober and keeps me off sugar. I know. Crazy. But true. Besides the fact that it’s become such a hobby. I hope it goes away for you.

Thank you. It will, and, till it does, I can still get my nicotine just fine, which is great. I didn't expect to be entertained by the taste of cigarette smoke, after all, and vaping unflavored is massively more pleasant.