This thread is working just like propaganda from BT/BP and I thought this was supposed have good intentions. I might have we need some regulation but I never said self.
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This thread is working just like propaganda from BT/BP and I thought this was supposed have good intentions. I might have we need some regulation but I never said self.
I played around with it, stuck mainly around 15-25w mainly 20w, went up and down a few times...it was on a Pico mod. Like I said I was taking long drags that would make you cough, more than I normally would take..most of my tank juices are 12-18mg. So I do enjoy high nic and TH.(used a 12mg on that one 50/50)
I did NOT say it was propaganda from BT/BP I said it was working like it. Scaring people into not using their devices. Wonderful 10 cents on the dollar sounds good to me............
Ohh okay makes sense. One more question, I can run the cleito 120 in tc right cause the coils are stainless steel
I think you are Reading Too Much into all this.
And are still kinda ...... because people Didn't Believe that your Coils were firing at 117F.
If you have the RBA, yes..I believe the factory coils are all Kanthal Claptons..the small Cleito came out with SS but I did not see any for the 120. Did they come out with them?
No idea I just saw that the coils are made with ss so I've been running it in tc with no problems but I don't know if it's working or not haha it's letting me fire
117F cannot/willnot produce any vape. Period
while i agree tensions are rising (needlessly) There is a lot of good questions, very little answers just conjecture and perhaps off-based anecdotal responses We have people saying they are at 330F and not reaching temps... Did they calibrate their tc with any KNOWN variable such as the "cotton burn test" or are they purely going off of a CLAIMED wire type (316L has been faked/forged with 304 not to be mistaken with 340) TCR values will still vary even if metal purity is within spec for said variety Understanding that people who are new to tc all of a sudden claiming they are 100% safe within a couple hours with very few questions or information leaves one to be skeptical about their response. I am not claiming anybody is wrong but even I who have been vaping EDIT: WITH TC for 3+ months now cannot claim to be vaping at anything specific even after calibrating my device i know i am at least +/- 20 from where i set it, and that is good enough for me. Under Ideal conditions is it possible for kanthal to never reach the thermal breakdown threshold for these liquids, sure. Is it far more propable that they will exceed these thresholds over the lifetime of a tank/wick/coil vs a TC regulated one... absolutely. To vape a week in TC would give more of an understanding of how you vape. I notice when my wick is seemingly not wicking fast enough by the time my coil decides to heat, when it isnt wicking properly with zero change it doesnt heat long... sometimes it gets airlocked not often but does happen when i change liquids and go from a nearly empty but not empty tank. Walk a mile in my shoes so you know how i feel... I think those who are "trying" tc should do so for a longer stint before claiming they are safe.... That is my opinion and it is very opinionated
When dealing with the unknown lets try and know as much as possible as can be known...
Possibly the thermometer has too much mass and acted as a heat sink, cooling the coil? A very tiny Thermocouple, say 40 awg wire I think would work well like in the video I put a link to.
I'm not familiar with the Cleito 120 but if the coils are ss it should work in tc. Do try out the rba in the tfv8 though. Building coils really isn't that difficult, and the results will be better than prebuilt coilheads when you get used to it and you'll save a lot of money.
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No people don't understand the data. I am just sick of this thread scaring vapers into not using their equipment.
PM for all the equipment your afraid to use.
How long have you used tc, how many hours on a coil have you used tc? how did you calibrate your tc? what are your credentials before i PM any questions to you
not trying to be rude just asking questions anybody should ask117F cannot/willnot produce any vape. Period
Under Ideal conditions is it possible for kanthal to never reach the thermal breakdown threshold for these liquids, sure. Is it far more propable that they will exceed these thresholds over the lifetime of a tank/wick/coil vs a TC regulated one... absolutely. To vape a week in TC would give more of an understanding of how you vape. I notice when my wick is seemingly not wicking fast enough by the time my coil decides to heat, when it isnt wicking properly with zero change it doesnt heat long... sometimes it gets airlocked not often but does happen when i change liquids and go from a nearly empty but not empty tank. Walk a mile in my shoes so you know how i feel... I think those who are "trying" tc should do so for a longer stint before claiming they are safe.... That is my opinion and it is very opinionated
With the Price of TC able mods these days, and the Ability to use SS Coils in either TC or Power Modes, I think everyone should try TC.
And if they Like it, Great.
And if they prefer VW, that's Great Also.
I'm Really Big on Individual Choice.
I think we Need More Threads like this. Not Less. Because the More a Person Knows, the Better they can Use something like an e-Cigarette. And the More they can Educate the Ill-Informed about e-Cigarettes that we run into Everyday.
If someone Doesn't have a TC device, I don't think they should be Freaked Out by something like this Thread. Because Myself, and Others, have shown that you may not be Reaching that Magical 480F using a Non-TC Device.
I don't think Anyone should be Afraid of Vaping. Because (IMO) Vaping is Significant Harm Reduce over Smoking.
Sounds like a good idea... but does anyone have one, we could get some real answers from that experiment.
As well, do a "Scottish Roll" wicking method too, wrap the thermometer wire in it and see if the cotton inside the coil gets as hot as well, since it's the space between the coils where air flow does not get to as easily.
ABSOLUTELY, But before making any wild claims that "this build" with "this wire" at "this power level" is SAFE lets see them use it for more than a few puffs more than a day hell more than a week, you cannot even begin to get into every aspect of vaping in 1 puff let alone 1 day... That is what i am saying. I do not want to scare anybody but dont tell people with absolute certainty that what they are doing is "safe" according to this study based on an hour long trial at something you hvae never used (not saying you have or that you are using you informally)
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VAPING IS SAFER THAN SMOKING CIGS......... PERIOD.... THis is about what vape is safer than another vape... (at least thats what i thought it was about)
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