New tendencies in vaping!

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Ryedan

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Nowadays living a healthy life style has become very trendy. So vaping didn't stay aside. Organic 100% PG-free, pesticide-free, GMO-free and vegan e-liquids found their way on the market. What do you think about these new tendencies in vaping? Is it really so important or it's just marketing? Do you opt for e-juices with no artificial colors, artificial flavors, artificial sweeteners and any other additives?

We have evolved for millions of years eating organic substances and are adapted very well for this. We have never inhaled these chemicals in anything close to the quantity that we do when we are vaping. There is a major difference in what substances are safe to eat and which are safe to inhale.

Inhaling PG has been well studied and if someone can tolerate vaping it it is probably one of the safest ingredients in juice. My juices are generally 90% PG, but I occasionally go down to 80%. Organic substances are complex combinations of chemicals. I use synthetic flavorings 99.9% of the time because they are cleaner and IMO safer because of it. I never use coloring, it's just added risk for no gain. The more synthetic content there is in juice, the less of an issue pesticides are.

I make my own juice so I'm not up on the latest commercial juice fads. I really hope what you are describing does not become a significant fad. It is IMO dangerous. I would avoid any juice supplier who uses this marketing. They are either lying to their custommers or they don't understand what they are doing. Either way is a bad deal.
 

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It was entertaining to read all your comments, not letting yourself caught in the marketing's traps is a really good thing. Though there's a sizable niche in the e-liquids market for PG-free juices, which are produced from organic flavor extracts. The former version being alcohol-based with an accessible price and the newest being more concentrated and expensive. So if these lines evolve I assume it should be a considerable clients' demand for them.
Anyway, could you tell me what are the main criteria when choosing your e-juices?
 

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It was entertaining to read all your comments, not letting yourself caught in the marketing's traps is a really good thing. Though there's a sizable niche in the e-liquids market for PG-free juices, which are produced from organic flavor extracts. The former version being alcohol-based with an accessible price and the newest being more concentrated and expensive. So if these lines evolve I assume it should be a considerable clients' demand for them.
Anyway, could you tell me what are the main criteria when choosing your e-juices?

My criteria are simple nothing more than 50% VG, no coloring, and do I enjoy vaping it.
 
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It was entertaining to read all your comments, not letting yourself caught in the marketing's traps is a really good thing. Though there's a sizable niche in the e-liquids market for PG-free juices, which are produced from organic flavor extracts. The former version being alcohol-based with an accessible price and the newest being more concentrated and expensive. So if these lines evolve I assume it should be a considerable clients' demand for them.
Anyway, could you tell me what are the main criteria when choosing your e-juices?

100% PG free juices are usually made for cloud chasers.

Almost natural flavorings will contain high levels of natural sugars.
Natural sugars will Caramelize on your coils and burn.

The hype might catch a few uneducated vapers that blindly fall for the organic marketing, but most are smarter than that.


There is no advantage to paying more for "organic" ejuice.
 

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Anyway, could you tell me what are the main criteria when choosing your e-juices?
  1. A PG/VG ratio suits me. I consider some PG desirable. I haven't had a cold in the two years since I switched my 2PAD habit to vaping and I suspect it's a benefit of the PG. PG also provides some "bite" or throat hit that's missing from the PG-free juiced I've tried. However, too much PG dries out my mouth and throat more than I'd like, so I've settled on approximately 35PG/65VG as optimum for me. That doesn't mean it's right for you. It will depend in part on your choice of atty, power level, and how your body tolerates or reacts to these base materials.

  2. A nicotine level that works. As a relatively new vaper, use however much it takes to keep you from craving cigarettes, but obviously not so much that it makes you nic-sick. The right level can vary tremendously from person to person, and it will also depend on the equipment you're using and your vaping style. For me, the right level is 15mg/ml, but I don't do lung hits and I vape at moderate power (15-25 watts). OTOH, there there are people here who haven't been able to tolerate more than 10mg/ml at 10 watts or less, and others who need 50mg/ml at 80 watts to keep them from smoking.

  3. Flavors: These are the great unknown in vaping and the source of truth in the "you don't know what's in it!" statements. Yes, just about all flavors used in e-liquids are GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) for ingestion in the form of food, & drink, but we're not eating them, we're inhaling them, and lung tissue isn't the same as the tissue in your digestive tract. Now you obviously want something that tastes good to you, and taste is very subjective. But if wish to minimize potential health risks from vaping, the very first thing to do is avoid flavors likely to contain high levels of diketones and don't settle for a vendor's claim that a liquid is "Diacetyl free". There's another diketone called Acetyl Propionyl that's been substituted for Diacetyl and it's just as worrisome. Moreover, vendors have been known to misrepresent and outright lie, so without actual test results, I'm highly skeptical of any such claims. Lastly, based on the level of rationalization we see in some vapers who defend the presences of diketones in e-liquid, it would seem that diketone based flavors are as addictive as nicotine, if not more so. Personally, I'm working on weaning myself off flavors. Once your sense of taste and smell recovers from smoking, a process that typically takes months, you may find as I did that most commercial liquids are flavored much more intensely than is really necessary or desirable; that you enjoy less intensely flavored liquids just as much or more, and that less intense flavors produce less "flavor fatigue" as well.
In the end though, the best juice is the juice you make yourself, because:
  • You'll have a much better understanding what's in it. There are some flavorings vendors who do disclose their ingredients, and others who actually test their flavoring mixtures for inhalation safety, whereas most commercial liquid makers won't even tell you which flavorings manufacturer(s) they use. And of course, if you really want "natural extracts" for flavoring, you can use them.

  • It's extremely cost-effective and makes vaping dang near free -- like under $100 a year for the supplies. I used to spend that much on cigarettes every week!

  • It removes most of the worries regarding the upcoming regulations/restrictions, and I refuse to be put in a position of choosing between nic withdrawal or going back to smoking.
 
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