Hmm, I stand corrected. They actually posted the remainder of the comments. Including mine.
Not like it will do us much good if the powers to be don't read them.
Not like it will do us much good if the powers to be don't read them.
New York "Open Legislation" website - comments needed
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they didn't read the first ..... in the assembly, come on guys, That website is nothing more then a placebo so people can vent and leave the politicians alone. Get off your buts. make some calls and or pay some people visits.
Just because the politicians don't see or care about what we say, posting there STILL makes a difference. There are people who WILL see all of those comments. Let's face it, the more people who see and know, the better.
Although, that doesn't mean by any means people should just post there. Send some emails or letters, or as you say karmatized, phone calls or visits. It would make little sense for out-of-staters like me to do more than email and mail, since they care less about what I think than people who vote.
Although, that doesn't mean by any means people should just post there. Send some emails or letters, or as you say karmatized, phone calls or visits. It would make little sense for out-of-staters like me to do more than email and mail, since they care less about what I think than people who vote.
I am glad to see that the new comments have been posted, and hope that someone besides us will read them.
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Up to 96 posts but no new posts for 22 hours.
I have to agree with Jiff that it is worth posting and amoung the things that those of us who live far away can do to lend support. Even if each post is not read we can still hope the number of posts draws attention.
By not posting we ensure that we are not heard.
If someone who has an appointment thinks it would be worthwhile perhaps comments could be printed and taken along?
Up to 96 posts but no new posts for 22 hours.
I have to agree with Jiff that it is worth posting and amoung the things that those of us who live far away can do to lend support. Even if each post is not read we can still hope the number of posts draws attention.
By not posting we ensure that we are not heard.
If someone who has an appointment thinks it would be worthwhile perhaps comments could be printed and taken along?
I've been thinking of doing just that.
The pile is a little thicker and therefore, I hope, harder to ignore. The count shown is 106, as of one day ago.
I just posted and there are 106 comments now . People need to be respectful in the comments . I know its hard but restrain your selves so you can be counted.
There is an excellent post that has a sticky, on effective ways to win others over to our way of thinking:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/36758-effective-advocacy.html
Believe me, I understand the feelings of anger, frustration, and pain. I do. But get those feelings out another way. Write a letter that you don't send anywhere. Go for a very brisk walk. Go into a closet and scream.
When you are writing for public view, keep a level head and a civil tongue.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/36758-effective-advocacy.html
Believe me, I understand the feelings of anger, frustration, and pain. I do. But get those feelings out another way. Write a letter that you don't send anywhere. Go for a very brisk walk. Go into a closet and scream.
When you are writing for public view, keep a level head and a civil tongue.
I went through the same thing registered and all typed a lengthy comment only to have it disappear.
I posted a lengthy comment a couple of weeks ago, at a time when none at all were showing. But it does not appear. Arrgh!
Edit: I looked again, and discovered the comments are separated between the two versions of the bill - and mine does show up under the Assembly version's page.
So I guess that means we all have to post twice. the Assembly page for comments is here:
A9529 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Prohibits the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors and items not defined as a tobacco product or approved by the FDA as a tobacco use cessation or harm reduction - New York State Senate
PS: There are 35 comments on the Assembly page.
Sometimes it takes a couple of days for comments to show up. They do say that they review before posting.
Smiley7's post indicates that the count, at that time, was 18 hours old.
Check back later, it will likely show up.
We are up to 116 as of seven hours ago for S7234, which is where we need to post.
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S7234
There are 68, last posted 9 hours ago, for version A9529 which has already been passed. That may explain some missing posts?
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S7234
There are 68, last posted 9 hours ago, for version A9529 which has already been passed. That may explain some missing posts?
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