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Crash

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I am still waiting on that link for intellectual patents:confused::evil:

Didn't know I said I was gona get ya one, if anything people know about me on ECF is that i'm lazy, sorry if I said I was gona do it, but yea not gona happen.

Anyway I'm bored now, and as for the Xhaler being a copy of the Grant goes, I'll save my judgement for when I actually get an Xhaler.

Right you people have totally killed my buzz so gona go back to my bottle of Patron now, adios :evil:
 

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It is a direct copy

There will always be a market for the true originals, and people who buy cheap knock-offs probably were probably never in the market for one in the first place.

Being a Scot...I'll take the cheap knock off any day...but only if it's a knockoff of something worth buying.



..but that's just MO.
 

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Didn't know I said I was gona get ya one, if anything people know about me on ECF is that i'm lazy, sorry if I said I was gona do it, but yea not gona happen.

Anyway I'm bored now, and as for the Xhaler being a copy of the Grant goes, I'll save my judgement for when I actually get an Xhaler.

Right you people have totally killed my buzz so gona go back to my bottle of Patron now, adios :evil:
It was always said!!! If you can;t take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen!!!:evil::evil: Was that said by HENRY FORD ????8-o
 

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It was always said!!! If you can;t take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen!!!:evil::evil: Was that HENRY FORD THAT SAID THAT????8-o

You know since I'm from a 3rd world country n all I always thought that the kitchen was usually where the women hung out, so I'll let ya stay in the kitchen. Don't burn ya self mate.
 

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Imeo is such a nice person.

He has treated everyone I know more than fair.


I must say, you are more than correct. Imeo is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my entire life, both online, and in the real world. And that's just a fact Jack. I know he'll succeed above and beyond all expectations whether or not he was copied, or is copied in the future. It's because of his integrity, hard work, and honest nature that his customers support him and keep coming back for more. You can see it all over him... in his comments that he posts, in his videos, in his work ethic, and most certainly in his original craftsmanship. He's one of a kind... AND YOU JUST CAN'T COPY *THAT*.
 
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I must say, you are more than correct. Imeo is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my entire life, both online, and in the real world. And that's just a fact Jack. I know he'll succeed above and beyond all expectations whether or not he was copied, or is copied in the future. It's because of his integrity and honest nature that his customers support him. You can see it all over him... in his comments that he posts, in his videos, and most certainly in his original craftsmanship. He's one of a kind. AND YOU JUST CAN'T COPY *THAT*.

That is the important thing. This is really a nice place but the Trolls stroll by every now and then. They just can't seem to get enough showing their malicious ignorance. It just seems to me that if they don't like this forum they would just stay away. How do you figure?
 

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Imeo, I love the design, fit, and finish of the GG, but honestly, it's a tube battery mod. There is only so much by way of mechanics you can do. The end result is the same, a cylinder which holds cylindrical shaped batteries that supply power to an atomizer. If he went with different end-caps or something would you still feel ripped off? You won't know it's a clone of your design until you get one in your hands and break down the mechanics of it. All computers have a processor, hard drive, and memory, but the difference between a Mac and a PC is the operating system. Maybe your operating systems are different. Competition is a part of business, I believe in this case you would have served yourself better to ask Drew if it was your design before you put yourself out there. If it does come back as a totally new mod it's you sitting with egg on your face. I think you are a great guy and I mean no offense. I just hope this doesn't come back to bite anyone in the .....
 

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Just read XHALER runs at 3.7v>5v>6v>7.4 v! for those who dare!!!!! does the gg do that??????

The only thing the GG doesn't hit is 5 volts. It does everything else that you've listed. And certain GG models take battery combinations that no other PV on the market will. I'm not sure if you're mentioning this in regards to whether or not the XHaler is an exact replica. But if you're mentioning it in regards to which is the better-built PV, there is none better than the GG that is more versatile, has a more advanced button and other features, and takes as many battery combinations.

I can confirm however that Drew has stated the following in his forum...

Did you know that the XHaler has a natural unsoldered resistor in it to acheive 5 Volts??? Well it does and it was discovered by the Drew and the Prototype Team while experimanting with lighter, less volatile material for the casing!!!!

Read it here at Post #29: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/33805-xhaler-sneak-peek-3.html

I'm not sure what a natural resistor is, but it is interesting, and it is different. But it still can't compare to a GG Transformer or a Telescopic (or even the Nano, Slim, or new version Grant) when it comes to button durability and reliability, button placement, and button security, and loads of other features on various GG models. Other than the 5 volt option, there's no way to tell how much of a "copy" this thing is or isn't on the inside, other than what we can see on the outside, until a GG member takes it apart and examines it. On the outside, it is an old version Grant for sure (besides the paint job & possibly a different metal). On the inside, it may be a completely different story.

I am a bit confused, however, why this is surfacing in November when the Xhaler thread has been open since August. Kind of odd.


Oops, (EDIT). The GG *Telescopic* CAN hit 5 volts when plugged into a WALL OUTLET. It can hit anywhere from 3 volts to 8 volts, and anywhere in between.
 
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But it still can't compare to a GG Transformer or a Telescopic (or even the Grant, Nano, or Slim), or the button durability, button placement, and button security, and loads of other features.

I am very puzzled how so many people on this thread can make 'definite' comments and comparisons about a product that isn't even being sold yet and all we have is a rather small picture to look at! How, for example, can you judge button durability on a product than no one even owns yet? :confused:
 

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But it still can't compare to a GG Transformer or a Telescopic (or even the Nano, Slim, or new version Grant) when it comes to button durability and reliability, button placement, and button security, and loads of other features on various GG models.

I am very puzzled how so many people on this thread can make 'definite' comments and comparisons about a product that isn't even being sold yet and all we have is a rather small picture to look at! How, for example, can you judge button durability on a product than no one even owns yet? :confused:


Because you can simply see that the button has no locking mechanism (or it appears that way). This is what I meant. The button looks exactly the same as the old version GG Grant, which had no locking mechanism and no safety features. On the internal parts and features, I've stated over and over that it may be a completely different story and we can't tell until it's examined. But there's no way to lock it from the inside (that would defeat the purpose). The locking mechanism would have to be on the exterior, and there is none in the picture of the XHaler.

When it comes to button placement, the Telescopic has 3 or 4 options on where you can place the button.

And when it comes to battery combinations and overall versatility, you can definitely tell that the XHaler will not be able to compare with the Transformer or Telescopic. It's simply impossible for it to compete in these areas.

Oh yeah, and you can even plug the Telescopic into your WALL OUTLET or into your computer's USB drive (when the Telescopic is available of course). The wall outlet has a regulator that streams the current anywhere from 3 volts to 8 volts and anywhere in between, so now I have to bite my tongue when I said earlier that a GG can't hit 5 volts, because it can. The GG is unmatched, and I say this with CONFIDENCE.
 
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My Gawd.. it's the SuperT thread all over again.

Let's say for the sake of argument that it's a copy.. a knock-off... a replica. SO WHAT?

This is business folks. If you're going to come out with a PV or a mod or whatever... and you have half a brain and are a businessman.. you take all of the prior art that you can find.. analyze the heck out of it... copy the stuff that works (and isn't protected by patents).. try to improve the stuff that doesn't work... and then try to figure out a way to make it as inexpensively as you can while preserving the quality, function, and value.

And that's how it's done. Period. To some extent every PV out there is a copy or a knock-off of the PV's that proceeded it. And every mod attempts to emulate the good features of the ones that came before it.. while fixing the deficiencies. This is evolution, not innovation.

Don't think for one minute that Ford doesn't own a bunch of Chevy cars and trucks that they tear apart every day. And don't think that Kenmore isn't trying to figure out a way to copy the nifty features that LG just put in their latest dryer.

As a consumer, you should be thrilled.

As we talked a bit in PM, i think you are missing the point. We aren't Ford or Chevy. For all the talk of Country, God, and buy American (or buy Greek as the Greeks would say) a large majority of people could care less about the small business surviving. They want it now and they want it cheap, even if it comes from China. We have become a society of people who feel entitled.

What you suggest is a cold and callous view of the plight of small buisnesses and i feel you are missing the real point. It's called ethical treatment of our fellow man kind. I for one believe you don't take the hard work of another man for ones own profit. We have become a very self centered, entitled, greedy society who will sell out his fellow man kind for a buck.

Also, as a consumer, we shouldn't be thrilled. The US's manufacturing industry is drying up and shipping over seas, largely for the reasons you mentioned above. All you told us was how the current industry works something we all already know, because we do have half a brain. What we are telling you is we think it may not be the absolute best way it could work. More and more of our jobs are drying up, small buisinesses are closing and more and more jobs are in the service industry which are lowing paying, offer little benefits and have no chance of advancement.

David

PS. I haven't examined the inside of the xhaler, so i will make no comments as to whether it is or isn't a copy.
 
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