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RsL

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But it still can't compare to a GG Transformer or a Telescopic (or even the Nano, Slim, or new version Grant) when it comes to button durability and reliability, button placement, and button security, and loads of other features on various GG models.

How, for example, can you judge button durability on a product than no one even owns yet? :confused:

Because you can simply see that the button has no locking mechanism (or it appears that way). This is what I meant. The button looks exactly the same as the old version GG Grant, which had no locking mechanism and no safety features.

So the lack of a locking mechanism means the button is not durable and reliable. Ok....sure, whatever Dude.
 

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So the lack of a locking mechanism means the button is not durable and reliable. Ok....sure, whatever Dude.

I didn't say that the XHaler button is "not durable and reliable". I said that the XHaler "CAN'T COMPARE to (various) GG's when it comes to button durability and reliability, button placement, and button security, and loads of other features on various GG models."

And it can't. I've given you a list of features proving my point. And I haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. But you can tell me how reliable the XHaler button is when you stick it in your pocket and it burns the crap out of your leg and/or you kill an atty. If that can compare to a GG button (or a Super T-1 button for that matter), then your opinion is your opinion, I suppose. But I have formed my own opinion from doing tons of research.


(EDIT) After reading more of the XHaler forum, I have confirmed my point using Drew's very own words...

I wouldnt suggest putting any of the mods in your pockets...Trust me I have seen this with my own leg what happens and it wasnt with mine!!!!

Read it here at Post #231: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/33805-xhaler-sneak-peek-24.html

But there are NO worries with putting ANY GG (other than the older models) in your pocket. And I can now say with confidence that the XHaler will not have a locking mechanism. The conclusion is that GG's button is more reliable because of more advanced security features and the XHaler button "can't compare" with it.
 
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I think Nhaler had made the statement at one point that the much awaited new mod drew was soming out with was going to be a 5v mod. I think I remember that but not sure now..


Yes, but later he said they would be 3.7 or 6.0

Yea like these sexy tubes?:evil::evil:

What are those Graphix? A Vinyl Sticker? Love the SD Chargers one! Go Chargers!



Sitting back and drinking tequila?? lol





and guys I dunno when i'll get to review the thing but i'll try not to drink for a couple of days n save a bit of money to buy it. :)

Dude I know your Mexican- you can't fool me.

As far as the pictures it does look like the GG- the button is at the wrong end anyway- like the GG!

Drew- you know I love Nhaler- Been Juice on the planet.

5 Volts- without soldier without wires? good luck sucker - yeah right! lol
 

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As we talked a bit in PM, i think you are missing the point. We aren't Ford or Chevy. For all the talk of Country, God, and buy American (or buy Greek as the Greeks would say) a large majority of people could care less about the small business surviving. They want it now and they want it cheap, even if it comes from China. We have become a society of people who feel entitled.

What you suggest is a cold and callous view of the plight of small buisnesses and i feel you are missing the real point. It's called ethical treatment of our fellow man kind. I for one believe you don't take the hard work of another man for ones own profit. We have become a very self centered, entitled, greedy society who will sell out his fellow man kind for a buck.

Also, as a consumer, we shouldn't be thrilled. The US's manufacturing industry is drying up and shipping over seas, largely for the reasons you mentioned above. All you told us was how the current industry works something we all already know, because we do have half a brain. What we are telling you is we think it may not be the absolute best way it could work. More and more of our jobs are drying up, small buisinesses are closing and more and more jobs are in the service industry which are lowing paying, offer little benefits and have no chance of advancement.

David

PS. I haven't examined the inside of the xhaler, so i will make no comments as to whether it is or isn't a copy.

Hey David its nice of you to drop by since I know you're facing these same problems, and well I can't really say what I want to say but anyway maybe some of these people should watch a documentary called the the high price of low costs, and maybe they'll understand what the real outcome of these cheap prices is, and how the end consumers actually lose more then they gain.

Here the link in case anyone actually cares

Walmart - High Cost of Low Prices
 

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Yes, but later he said they would be 3.7 or 6.0



What are those Graphix? A Vinyl Sticker? Love the SD Chargers one! Go Chargers!





Dude I know your Mexican- you can't fool me.

As far as the pictures it does look like the GG- the button is at the wrong end anyway- like the GG!

Drew- you know I love Nhaler- Been Juice on the planet.

5 Volts- without soldier without wires? good luck sucker - yeah right! lol

Yup Rob you're right, just because I'm brown I must be Mexican. ;) but I preferred to be called a Paki therefor I go around telling people I was born in Pakistan. lol
 

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I can confirm one thing about an internal part of the XHaler. It uses a spring, unlike the newer GG models (but like the older version GG Grant and other older GG models)...

I got some very bad news today about the XHALER...The springs are wrong and will have to be sent back for replacement.

Read it here at Post #552: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/33805-xhaler-sneak-peek-56.html

The GG is more advanced in this area of internal parts, at least, since the newer GG models do not use a spring.
 
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5 Volts- without soldier without wires? good luck sucker - yeah right! lol

You read my mind. hehe. I don't understand how this is even possible. How can you get either 5 *OR* 6 volts from the same type of batteries (each battery runs at either 3.0, 3.6, or 3.7 volts)? Even if this solderless, wireless resistor existed, wouldn't it have to do *EITHER* 5 volts OR 6 volts? How can it push one or the other at the user's will without some type of regulator or switch to change the voltage? Or without removing the resistor?



he also said it would be 5 volts- was the GG ever 5 volts?

The GG Telescopic can push 5 volts through a wall outlet. But no, not the Grant. But the Telescopic will have a regulator that can stream the current anywhere form 3 volts to 8 volts, and anywhere in between. It has a little dial that you turn that starts at 3 volts and goes up to 8 volts. The GG Telescopic is the ONLY e-cig I know of that you can vape from your wall anywhere in the house with a cheap extension chord!
 
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Well Drew seems like a stand up guy. I talked with him over the phone a couple of times. Before he announced the xhaler we talked and he mentioned adjustable voltage. Maybe he just figured out and is using the same or a similar adjustable regulator. They are in fact all just tubes and switches. Patentable- I doubt it- but you need a patent lawyer to tell you that.
 

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Well Drew seems like a stand up guy. I talked with him over the phone a couple of times. Before he announced the xhaler we talked and he mentioned adjustable voltage. Maybe he just figured out and is using the same or a similar adjustable regulator. They are in fact all just tubes and switches. Patentable- I doubt it- but you need a patent lawyer to tell you that.

Yeah, I talked to Drew on the phone twice also. He seemed like a good guy over the phone.

But the regulator on the GG Telescopic is a huge rectangular adapter that plugs into the wall. It's not on the device itself.

Watch the following video from 1:09 to 1:55...YouTube - GGTS7I just don't get it (I'm not saying it isn't possible). But I don't think you could get a regulator like that on the device itself. And even if you could, there's no sign of it at all from the looks of the XHaler's pictures. Unless it's an internal switch? But don't think so. Who knows, time will tell.
 
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My guess would be a fixed component(likely a resistor of sorts) that drops the i/p voltage by 1/6th.

Yes "fixed". But once it's fixed at 5 volts, how do you unfix it to go back to 6 volts? You'd have to remove the resistor somehow, no?

Maybe a REMOVABLE solderless, wireless resistor that slides into a tiny housing internally to make the connection? Isn't that the only way? :confused: If so, sounds like it might be complicated to the average user, but maybe not. Might be ingenious.


But who cares really, I guess. 6 volts going through my Silver Bullet tastes so much better on my 801 and has a much better throat hit than my 5 volt USB pass through. Funny how one volt makes such a difference (to me anyway).
 
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You use 2 X 3.6v batteries for 6V or 2 X 3.0V batteries for 5V.

Just need to change batteries to change voltage


Well yeah, that word work to get between 5 volts and 6 volts. But then you'd never be able to reach the advertised 7.4 volt capability due to the fixed resistance. :confused: 8-o Unless the resistor was removable. It's the only way. Maybe the cap holds the resistor like the older version Prodigy? Just switch out the cap? That's gotta be it. But then, how is it wireless and solderless? This is a real brain teaser. lol

3.7 Volts, 5 Volts, 6 Volts and 7.4 volts, although Unless you have an iron lung and solder gun to repair the attys , most will probably stcik to 3.7 and 5 volts...

Read it here at Post# 626: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/33805-xhaler-sneak-peek-63.html
 
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