What are you complaining about? You have HHV in your state.
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What are you complaining about? You have HHV in your state.
Ha! You wouldn't know it with the way the post-office runs.
If they ever opened up a storefront, I would be making an 8 hour round trip every weekend.
Skip -
I'm glad that you're off and running so nicely, and especially glad that you now have a variable voltage device, and seem to be discovering the difference that VV makes in getting an optimum vape. As you are indicating, different juices very often taste better at different wattages.
This has been a long and interesting thread, and largely because of the very thing you just said; "so many care so deeply about a NOOB".
I particularly care because as I've said in this forum before, my father died from smoking at age 66, and my best friend is now slowly dying from advanced emphysema. That, along with the fact that over 400,000 Americans die each year from smoking, makes me want to help people get the best vape they can within budgetary constraints, and to me, that leads squarely to a VV eGo-class battery. I've asked many times for a a compelling reason to recommend a CV eGo-class battery instead, and have never gotten a satisfactory answer.
Often people will say that a VV eGo-class battery will be "too confusing" for a newcomer. Are you confused by yours? Sometimes they'll say that a beginner should start with constant voltage so that they'll better appreciate variable voltage when they finally get it. I've always said that if someone wants to experience constant voltage, they can always set a Twist or a Spinner to 3.7V and leave it there. I just think it's nice to be able to twist the knob and turn the voltage up or down once you've got a feel for what constant voltage is like. Or they'll say that you don't "need" variable voltage. No, and you don't "need" more than one setting on a toaster, blender, iron, stove, or lamp; but IMO they're nice to have.
You got another battery, and it was VV. Knowing what you know now, which would you recommend to a beginner who wanted an eGo-class battery; constant voltage, or variable voltage?
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And I think it's safe to say that I took a little heat in this thread for offering detailed information about variable voltage. I'd like your honest opinion about whether or not I should continue trying to explain the basics of volts, ohms, and watts, and why variable voltage is IMO inherently superior to constant voltage, to people just starting out. Again, I do it to save lives, so if it's really not helping - and is in fact hurting - then I'd be killing people, which I don't want to do.
I wish you much vaping enjoyment and continued success in your new life as an ex-smoker.
When I first got on the forum and posted this question I knew I had to quit, and the upcoming 4 day weekend was it. I knew I did not want a ciggy look alike. I had heard to many bad things about them. I was not even sure this would work so I figured i could waste about the cost of a carton of smokes $40. So I started to Google E Cigs and hit this forum. I read a bunch of posts and started one of my own. I read through every reply and settled on the best easiest and most straightforward solution there and that was the EGO 1100 mah set up. I didn’t feel I could wait and do another 3-4 days of research on all the variable voltage stuff as my mind would not grasp that. I just needed to be off cigs. During that first week off the smokes I came back to this thread and many others. And as some of the fog lifted and I was actually using the gear my understanding of Vaping grew. I also knew it was working. A trip to LJ’s and a try of a VV sold me. So is a Variable Voltage too confusing for a noob? Nope. Is it something they can understand before they have even tried vaping? Nope. But I am glad I exposed to the idea and given options.
Sorry you took heat but I will keep an eye on your 6!
Sorry you took heat but I will keep an eye on your 6!
Skip, I started with a <name withheld>. It's a three-piece cart/carto, auto, constant voltage, stick battery total piece of ..... It took me two weeks to figure out there was better options. But I am glad I got the <name withheld> to start because it was a cig-a-like that introduced me to vaping. I would not have ever started vaping if I thought I had to lug around a Lavatube with a Vivi Nova perched on the top. Now I don't give a rat'sass what it looks like. But to get here, I had to start with that <name withheld> or I otherwise would never have given it a chance.
if you were serious go with something more expensive you will not regret it I bought an ego twist with clearomizers
Skip, I'm glad that you seem to be getting a handle on what VV does for a vape. What I would like very much is to be able to provide a clear and compelling case for a beginner to just go ahead and get a couple of VV eGo batteries, a couple of Vivi Novas, two chargers, and some juice, without studying anything further before ordering it.
I hope you're mostly wrong about the second "nope":
"So is a Variable Voltage too confusing for a noob? Nope. Is it something they can understand before they have even tried vaping? Nope"
Maybe I'll seriously downplay the math, as suggested, and stick with "variable voltage lets you fine-tune your vape by varying the heat of the coil that warms and vaporizes the e-liquid, and lets you use a fairly wide range of different "resistances" ("heat ratings") of coils; you can't do that with constant voltage". If they seem to get that, and ask for more information on why the heat of the coil changes, then hit 'em with the science part.
Thoughts?
I'll make a deal with you John D...you get someone to make a cig sized variable voltage e-cig and I'll agree with your thinking. How's that for a compromise?
From: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...at-your-vaping-pet-hates-131.html#post7515398
I see your point John - I wouldn't say its critical tho. Some new vapers have found the twist is not for them - and have bought something else. I think we need to just be open to not one size fits all. I think we've seen all your points in favor (please don't wall of text me in reply).
I have personally helped vapers who started with a twist and were ready to give up vaping. it really wasn't for them. I' m not saying they will never try vv again, but they really didn't want it to start with after trying. On the other hand, some people start with a twist and it absolutely works for them.
I think the bottom line is that beginners have a journey usually, and if what they have doesn't work lets help them find what does - whether that means trying vv or ditching vv to start with.
I am saying that variable voltage saves more lives than constant voltage. I see saving lives as "critical".
"I think we need to just be open to not one size fits all ...."
I'm not even sure what this means. Variable voltage is inherently superior to constant voltage. Get it in whatever "size" you can, if you can. (When are look-alikes going to be available in VV??)
"I think the bottom line is that beginners have a journey usually, and if what they have doesn't work lets help them find what does ..... "
As I've said and will continue to say, I think that the first step of that journey is best taken with a VV device in hand, and that IMO the only conceivable exception is if they absolutely must have a ciggie look-alike. And as I've also said before, I wish the starting point of "VV eGo + Vivi Nova + juice" had been available when I was just starting out. I find myself unwilling and unable to refrain from recommending it as an excellent first step.
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"(When are look-alikes going to be available in VV??)"
I've been asking that for quite some time now, so I'm not very confident that I'd be able to get anyone to actually do it. But you're still free to agree with my line of thinking.
When I came here I didn't know what vapeing was, what it tasted like, how it felt or if it would even work. so that is why I put a $40 budget on it. Warm vape, cold vape, throat hit none of that meant a thing to me. I was interested in something that would get me off cigs.
So I don’t think a really green noob like me could get a handle on Variable voltage VV tanks, carto or atomizers. I am glad that the thought was put out there. the simpler it is put the better. Now if i had been exposed to the look alike e cigs that would be different as I would have had an idea of what it was like but I had never even had a puff of a e cig before last Thursday.
I will admit that the Ohms formulas did get me looking like a deer in the headlights. I kind of glossed over them.
Now quit fussing at each other and go save someone!!
Skip
still kinda sorta a NOOB
So I don’t think a really green noob like me could get a handle on Variable voltage VV tanks, carto or atomizers. I am glad that the thought was put out there. the simpler it is put the better. Now if i had been exposed to the look alike e cigs that would be different as I would have had an idea of what it was like but I had never even had a puff of a e cig before last Thursday.
I will admit that the Ohms formulas did get me looking like a deer in the headlights. I kind of glossed over them.
Now quit fussing at each other and go save someone!!
Skip
still kinda sorta a NOOB
As someone who suffers from severe COPD if you stay with the vaping you will never regret it. Trust me on this one. I've experienced the improvement in my health and it is wonderful. I still wouldn't try to run a marathon but I can do most of my daily deeds without having to use the nebulizers like I was.
I know for one of my friends who I got into vaping, never would've tried it if that was her only option. I'll probably buy her a Spinner and mini nova for her bday or xmas, but it wouldn't surprise me if she doesn't like it. My other friend, he probably would go for it if I explained it to him and helped him out with it, but I also just gave him my old V2 system to test out, and I will steer him to a Twist or Spinner if he decides to go with vaping. Myself, yeah I would've and should've started with a twist if I had found these forums before I bought a Blu and V2.
Imo the important thing is its easy enough, and not intimidating to the new user. Many are people who are older and been smoking 20+ years. They want something like they are used to. I agree wholeheartedly it would be better if everyone started with a VV, but when it comes down to it the most important thing is they stop smoking regardless of what type of system is.
Options are good, and imo, both should be given. The important thing is they are trying it, and found these forums so they know where to go when they have questions or want to upgrade.
Imo the important thing is its easy enough, and not intimidating to the new user. Many are people who are older and been smoking 20+ years. They want something like they are used to. I agree wholeheartedly it would be better if everyone started with a VV, but when it comes down to it the most important thing is they stop smoking regardless of what type of system is.
Options are good, and imo, both should be given. The important thing is they are trying it, and found these forums so they know where to go when they have questions or want to upgrade.
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Yeah its best to vape than smoke..I have asthma when i was young till now..have been smoking analogues for 20 over years..till year 2008 i had a bad asthma and sinus but still returned to analogues till this year 2012 had asthma and sinus which lasted for almost one month and was on antibiotic for 20 days..but guess what? During this time I really cant smoke analogues and I started back my vaping (during the time when i was sick) and it did great,l got better and felt better...my asthma was gone even though I was vaping like mad..so for me this shows that vaping is good compared to analogues..if i were to do this with analogues i would have gone kaput. So..even as a beginner from my point of view they should at least get a VV type of ecig. I would have done that if there were somebody to advice me on this..I started off with small ecigs with lights at the front...but no TH so was on and off with analogues. Now am using the ego and the LT which have more TH..without TH then i think most will go back to analogues...Hope this will help you
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