I never vote for incumbents. Unfortunately, no one I've voted for ever won. Maybe I should start voting for them.
NY state bill banning ecigs
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I never vote for incumbents. Unfortunately, no one I've voted for ever won. Maybe I should start voting for them.
The problem is that they will already have passed laws to ban the sale of e cigs (although the e cig doesn't have to have nicotine in it). Now the Pact Act will get approved prohibiting internet sales effectively shutting down any legitimate sale other than......cigarettes. SWEET
Another good reason to have the FDA classify these as tobacco products. If it's not classified one way or the other, states will use that as a way to ban them. If states can't outright ban tobacco products, they can't outright ban ecigs IF they are tobacco products. I can see no reason why they can't ban "drug delivery devices."
This is why we can't wait for some magical "third classification" as a reduced harm product.
Come on New York vapers!! Contact CASAA with your state senator/house contact info and we'll get a campaign going!! We have to expose the lie to the other reps who will vote on this.
This is why we can't wait for some magical "third classification" as a reduced harm product.
Come on New York vapers!! Contact CASAA with your state senator/house contact info and we'll get a campaign going!! We have to expose the lie to the other reps who will vote on this.
I would love for them to see the truth but they will not listen. Here in NY the avg. price on a carton of cigs is about $80.00 plus with the tax being around $50.00 of that. Hell the state has lost in me alone $400.00 a month in taxes alone, yes that figure for me is correct. Now compound that figure over how many people would leave smoking for Ecigs and that number becomes incredible.
"PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL: This bill seeks to ban the sale and
distribution of items containing or delivering nicotine that are not
currently classified as tobacco products or approved as tobacco use
cessation or harm reduction products by the U.S. Food and Drug Adminis-
tration (FDA) and also to prevent minors from purchasing these products."
The Bill is to take effect immediately if passed. Interesting thing reading this bill. The 3rd option is even addressed via relation to the FDA.
I did comment
I think that maybe I wills send each a care package..one card with A cigarettes (won't tell them their stale from months ago hehe) And a PV. Both attached to a card- with a saying..your significant other or child is an addict..which would you pick? Or won't you give them the option?
distribution of items containing or delivering nicotine that are not
currently classified as tobacco products or approved as tobacco use
cessation or harm reduction products by the U.S. Food and Drug Adminis-
tration (FDA) and also to prevent minors from purchasing these products."
The Bill is to take effect immediately if passed. Interesting thing reading this bill. The 3rd option is even addressed via relation to the FDA.
I did comment
I think that maybe I wills send each a care package..one card with A cigarettes (won't tell them their stale from months ago hehe) And a PV. Both attached to a card- with a saying..your significant other or child is an addict..which would you pick? Or won't you give them the option?
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What in the blue blazes is going on in NY??
Chefs Call Proposed New York Salt Ban 'Absurd'
Welcome to Big Nanny.
I don't one can vote them out. Elections are totally rigged to keep the elite in. Its gonna take something a bit stronger.
Chefs Call Proposed New York Salt Ban 'Absurd'
Welcome to Big Nanny.
I don't one can vote them out. Elections are totally rigged to keep the elite in. Its gonna take something a bit stronger.
Am I reading to much into the above quote by pointing out the word CURRENTLY? To me, that reads that despite the eventual court ruling, their sale would still be banned since at this time they are not considered a tobacco product or FDA approved.
NY politicians are such tax whores. They raised the tax on cigarettes so high, their own citizens began crossing state lines to buy smokes or chose to order cigarettes online. What did the scummy NY politicians do in return? They pushed the PACT Act, because they somehow believe they have a god given right to collect outrageously high taxes from the population. And with PACT, their citizens won't be able to escape high taxes by ordering online.
This bill is just another attempt by NY politicians to INSURE they get those high cigarette taxes. We can't have citizens vaping while escaping the high cigarette taxes, no more than we can have citizens buying more reasonably priced cigarettes over the net. Scumbucket NY politicians could not care less about your health, because it's so much more profitable if you continue smoking instead of vaping.
NY politicians need to crawl back into whatever slimy gutter from whence they came.
This bill is just another attempt by NY politicians to INSURE they get those high cigarette taxes. We can't have citizens vaping while escaping the high cigarette taxes, no more than we can have citizens buying more reasonably priced cigarettes over the net. Scumbucket NY politicians could not care less about your health, because it's so much more profitable if you continue smoking instead of vaping.
NY politicians need to crawl back into whatever slimy gutter from whence they came.
I did leavea comment - basically saying I was approving of the no sale to minors and digusted by the hyposcrisy of the 2nd part - telling people its ok to smoke, and die from smoking providing NYS gets its tax money first. To date I see no comments listed for this article at all.
In NY- we pay over $8 a pack for smokes. Our state budget is in complete bankruptcy. We've had one, no, now 2 disgraced Governors. The State continues to fight Indian ability to sell tobacco to non-natives from the reservations (the latest attempt is to allot a certain number of tax free smokes to each tribe based on their number of members and average consumption). This e-cig ban will likely pass easily and with no regard to the wishes of the majority. The loud mouthed anti-nicotine movement will give legitimacy to the tax mongering, and we will all pay with taxes and our health.
I too posted to this Friday and my comment does not appear. I ran a search and no comment made by anyone appear....scum bags
of course its about the money its always been about the money.
that's why i have learned to make everything myself.
make my own battery mod...check
make my own e-juice...check
now i just need to try and make an atty and i'm good to go.
of course its about the money its always been about the money.
that's why i have learned to make everything myself.
make my own battery mod...check
make my own e-juice...check
now i just need to try and make an atty and i'm good to go.
You can look up your senator and representative and find out contact information:
New York State Senate
New York State Assembly - Member Section
If you need ideas what to say:
Approximately 80% of regular users of e-cigarettes have completely replaced their tobacco cigarettes with vaporized nicotine. They are no longer inhaling deadly tar, carbon monoxide, heavy metals, particles of paper and tobacco ash, thousands of toxins and hundreds of carcinogens. Dr. Murray Laugesen, a New Zealand public health physician, has conducted extensive safety testing on e-cigarettes. He has observed that e-cigarette use reduces risk of cancer by supplanting the smoking of tobacco cigarettes. "Simply banning e-cigarettes will consign thousands of e-smokers back to smoking tobacco and an early death," he stated. "That would be crazy.” In a University of Alberta survey, 91% of users report that their health has improved since they made the switch. Why is the New York legislature trying to prevent people from moving away from smoking tobacco cigarettes? Is the idea to preserve cigarette tax revenue? If so, how ethical is it to consign citizens to a slow painful death just to balance the state budget?
New York State Senate
New York State Assembly - Member Section
If you need ideas what to say:
Approximately 80% of regular users of e-cigarettes have completely replaced their tobacco cigarettes with vaporized nicotine. They are no longer inhaling deadly tar, carbon monoxide, heavy metals, particles of paper and tobacco ash, thousands of toxins and hundreds of carcinogens. Dr. Murray Laugesen, a New Zealand public health physician, has conducted extensive safety testing on e-cigarettes. He has observed that e-cigarette use reduces risk of cancer by supplanting the smoking of tobacco cigarettes. "Simply banning e-cigarettes will consign thousands of e-smokers back to smoking tobacco and an early death," he stated. "That would be crazy.” In a University of Alberta survey, 91% of users report that their health has improved since they made the switch. Why is the New York legislature trying to prevent people from moving away from smoking tobacco cigarettes? Is the idea to preserve cigarette tax revenue? If so, how ethical is it to consign citizens to a slow painful death just to balance the state budget?
Replace the words people and citizen with VOTER and they might pay more attention.
Especially if you are a New York state resident.
Especially if you are a New York state resident.
Won't 99% of politicians read this as a bad thing? (people should be using CIGARETTES!)
Try living in NYC. In December I was paying $10.50 a pack when you include the sales tax on top of the 3 (federal, state and city) excise taxes.
This all started when Bloomberg first got a city excise tax on cigs right after he became mayor. He insisted it wasn't about the money, it was to keep kids from smoking. And then all these adults started buying their cigarettes online, tax revenue dropped and it suddenly became about the money (although he still insisted it wasn't.)
bloomberg is mayor. and he will most likely be till he decides to leave, he's to rich to be voted out.
lols our governors kind on keep shifting in and out of office recently.
out current governor is david paterson.
here is the information if anyone wants to help contact him.
To Write To The Governor:
David A. Paterson
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
518-474-8390
Good comments about California's wonderful gov may help. no idea but hopefully Paterson is reasonable
lols our governors kind on keep shifting in and out of office recently.
out current governor is david paterson.
here is the information if anyone wants to help contact him.
To Write To The Governor:
David A. Paterson
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
518-474-8390
Good comments about California's wonderful gov may help. no idea but hopefully Paterson is reasonable
So how many out of the 50 states are now banning ecig sales?
Is Ny prohibiting sale of ecigs to everyone? or minors only?
Not clear
Is Ny prohibiting sale of ecigs to everyone? or minors only?
Not clear
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