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HBcorpse

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I'll say this.... When I got the demo Radius last week and put the Kabuki on it, the thing hasn't left my hand since. There's more power than I'll ever need, flavor is amazing, and FINALLY, no need to carry extra batteries.

I leave the house with exactly ONE mod... ONE tank and a bottle of juice. There's a box of Nauti coils in my glove box just in case.

With over six years of vaping under my belt, and owning a MASSIVE collection of gear, I can actually say for the very first time, I'm content and confident.

ProVape knocked this one out of the park. SURE.. it's not for everybody, but maybe some of those "everybody's" would rethink the way they vaped if they had this combo.

Congratulations on a job well done to Vape360 and Crew... what a pleasure it is to use this combo!
Now, of course I don't have a Radius...
But I've gotta say, Zen...you absolutely deserve a share of that lime light as well!!!

I had given all my Nautilus tanks to my uncle, whom I also bought a Satin Silver v2.5 (thanks Provape Specials page!)...
My lady bought me a P3 Nautilus, but it's been in the box since about a month later (Shhh! Don't tell her! She can't tell it apart from my other tanks!)
I thought I was done with the Nautilus system. Then the Kabuki sauntered into my realm.
I thought it was too good to be true that someone had created something entirely new, dedicated to a coil system I was tired of using. But nay.
It was to be my first piece of HoH gear...(sorry but I rode the carto wave from 2010 all the way over the Genny era, and landed in Kayfun-ville, with my first Bronze Mini v2.5.)
I snagged up a Kabuki ASAP, and fell in love immediately.
It's in regular rotation on my P3 Betas (yes more than one), and some times I forget to take it off!
I cannot WAIT until its P3 threading mates with the P3 connection on my Radius...
Now the only thing I have to worry about is my P3's ganging up to fight my Radius for time with the Kabuki!!!
So, thanks again Zen.
 

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I'm really looking forward to getting the Radius in my hot little hands.

The power covers everything that I do and I mean everything.

I won't often be using the full power range, but I do enjoy dripping on mechs at around 25- 35W (.5) highest at times.

The rest of the time I'm on tanks at 9W, sometimes a little lower even, and then I'll get all crazy face and go as high as 13W every once in a while.

This is going to be the perfect do it all device for me.

Add in the convenience of USB charging, single battery, nothing but juice and some back up coils to carry. Woo hoo. Good times.

I literally can not wait which is why I ordered the Black. I'll be getting a Ghost as soon as that pre-order goes up too.

I've been doing a little reading around the web just to see how this is being received and of course the usual suspects are pissing and moaning.

I don't usually bother with that stuff, but I'm finding it a bit of a guilty pleasure this time around.

This thing is going to be awesome sauce amazeballs CHUCK NORRIS all rolled into one.

I guess I'll want to pick up some back up 25Rs, spare hamsters, what have you... and to think the FDA is getting ready to crap all over this parade.

It's a crying shame.
 
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I tried that....resorted to filling it only at about 70% but I still got leaks. Since I have no problem with the concept of bottom filling, and I think it's great that the Crown gives you the option, I abandoned top filling.

In fairness, I didn't get the leaks when I experimented with the pre-maid coils that were included...maybe because they are packed tightly with cotton. However, I bought it for the RBA, and that's when I experienced the top fill leaking issues.

I think Svoemesto had the right idea with that indentation on the top cap's threading.

Go tit. You need to build a "S" wick for the RBA deck. See this vid. When you do this, "shape" the S wick with a little juice before you install the cap and prime it. Works like a charm every single time. Top fill with the S wicked RBA deck. You use a lot of cotton so a few trials might be necessary.
 

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To be fair, the Crown AFC isn't really sloppy or lose, but it does jut out so you can't avoid grabbing it (and moving it) when taking the tank off of your mod. For me anyway...

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That's some big juice channels there.
 
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Go tit. You need to build a "S" wick for the RBA deck. See this vid. When you do this, "shape" the S wick with a little juice before you install the cap and prime it. Works like a charm every single time. Top fill with the S wicked RBA deck. You use a lot of cotton so a few trials might be necessary.

I do use the S wick. The first two times I built it, I did not use it and got horrible wicking issues. So naturally, I hit YouTube and found that video lol. I'm sure I could prefect it so it doesn't leak, but for me, it really is a non-issue to bottom fill, so I just went with that instead. Although, I suppose moving the AFC while bottom-filling is an issue, so I should try to perfect it, except I'm not really motivated because the Crown is not my favorite atm (it's a great tank though).
 
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Zen is there any plans for a Kabuki that takes Aspire Atlantis coils?
I need a sub ohm tank with P3 threading.

Most likely not.... We do extensive double blind taste testing each time I design a tank, and i was unable to create something that used the Atlantis (or triton) coil that people would pick over the Nautilus in those tests... in fact... not a single person picked the Atlantis as having superior flavor.

It wasn't my goal to make a sub-tank OR a Plus-Ohm tank... My goal was to make a flavor tank irrespective of the end resistance. But with that being said, the decision to use a sub-ohm coil when regulated mods have as much power as they do makes absolutely no sense to me. As that coil resistance lowers, more and more power is lost in the connections between the mod and the tank, and even the P3 connection won't overcome that. Additionally, the air-flow on the Atlantis coils was WAY too open to be able to control in this style of air-intake. It doesn't work all that well in their tank either. It produces flavorless vapor by comparison.

This chart is a GROSS oversimplification but it illustrates how losses build up at lower resistances. (I apologize to the EEs in the crowd for this in advance... it's an illustration of losses without regard for the relationship of power/load and it assumes a series resistance that may or may not be correct, but it's in this range )

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The bottom line in this illustration is; at .5Ω, 23% of the power is wasted in the connections... representing a loss of over 9 watts at full output. That is 9 watts that is NOT producing heat in your coil... it's wasted and lost. But look at the losses at 1.8Ω.... Only 7.69% is wasted... a loss of a little over 3 watts... the lower the build, the more efficient the entire system becomes. It's a fun chart... It illustrates how wasteful, from an energy point of view vaping at .5Ω is... and since we use batteries, conserving energy is of great importance!

THIS THIS THIS.
I mean, if'n you reckon it'll be a realistic idea...[emoji12]

Not a fan of that, sorry...
 
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I'm actually considering a Kabuki, but it seems awfully pricey. If I could maybe find a good review of it, I might take the plunge...all I have really seen is a blog post calling it an expensive nautilus and criticizing the use of an allen wrench to adjust airflow, which seems kind of petty to me, since once I find a setting I like, I tend to leave it there, not to mention that it is annoying trying to twist off the tank bottom to refill and invariably messing up the airflow settings anyway.

I don't really ask that much from a tank, just:
1.good flavor (I like vapor but I don't need clouds)
2.easy to refill
3.won't leak (as I mentioned, after 3-5 days my subtank seems to leak through the airflow holes)

If I could be fairly sure that it did those things, then I'd part with another bill for a Kabuki and some coils.
I have 4 Kabuki tanks and can tell you they definetly meet what you're looking for! :)
 

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At VaperCon a guy asked "what's your build, brah?" and I said it's a nautilus coil at 1.6Ω... he looked at me kinda funny and said, "Don't you mean .16? Is a nautilus coil like a Clapton?"

I said it's more like a Hendrix... He nodded and walked away.
Funniest post ever! :lol:

I'm actually considering a Kabuki, but it seems awfully pricey. If I could maybe find a good review of it, I might take the plunge...all I have really seen is a blog post calling it an expensive nautilus and criticizing the use of an allen wrench to adjust airflow, which seems kind of petty to me, since once I find a setting I like, I tend to leave it there, not to mention that it is annoying trying to twist off the tank bottom to refill and invariably messing up the airflow settings anyway.

I don't really ask that much from a tank, just:
1.good flavor (I like vapor but I don't need clouds)
2.easy to refill
3.won't leak (as I mentioned, after 3-5 days my subtank seems to leak through the airflow holes)

If I could be fairly sure that it did those things, then I'd part with another bill for a Kabuki and some coils.
Agree with all other kabuki comments - quite seriously it is SO much better than a nautilus. For me the kabuki has definitely been a game changer. Great flavour, easy to fill, not a single gurgle or leak since I've had it (2 months and used as main vape every day) and the coils last for ages. Kabuki & provari = guaranteed great vape. The only problem is once you've tried them you struggle to find a reason for buying anything else - which may result in some serious vapemail withdrawal symptoms ( luckily there is a cure - buy more kabukis and provaris :)).
 

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Most likely not.... We do extensive double blind taste testing each time I design a tank, and i was unable to create something that used the Atlantis (or triton) coil that people would pick over the Nautilus in those tests... in fact... not a single person picked the Atlantis as having superior flavor.

It wasn't my goal to make a sub-tank OR a Plus-Ohm tank... My goal was to make a flavor tank irrespective of the end resistance. But with that being said, the decision to use a sub-ohm coil when regulated mods have as much power as they do makes absolutely no sense to me. As that coil resistance lowers, more and more power is lost in the connections between the mod and the tank, and even the P3 connection won't overcome that. Additionally, the air-flow on the Atlantis coils was WAY too open to be able to control in this style of air-intake. It doesn't work all that well in their tank either. It produces flavorless vapor by comparison.

This chart is a GROSS oversimplification but it illustrates how losses build up at lower resistances. (I apologize to the EEs in the crowd for this in advance... it's an illustration of losses without regard for the relationship of power/load and it assumes a series resistance that may or may not be correct, but it's in this range )

View attachment 498691

The bottom line in this illustration is; at .5Ω, 23% of the power is wasted in the connections... representing a loss of over 9 watts at full output. That is 9 watts that is NOT producing heat in your coil... it's wasted and lost. But look at the losses at 1.8Ω.... Only 7.69% is wasted... a loss of a little over 3 watts... the lower the build, the more efficient the entire system becomes. It's a fun chart... It illustrates how wasteful, from an energy point of view vaping at .5Ω is... and since we use batteries, conserving energy is of great importance!



Not a fan of that, sorry...
I just like a big fluffy throat hit :D
 

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"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten" Author Unknown



The device ships with a Samsung 25R... but button tops will fit and can be used in a pinch. ProVape recommends the 25R, and the unit IS designed to be used as an internal battery device, not as a battery swapper.

I've a cheap istick 10, the 20 has died after eight month vaping, not too bad, it is cheap but not poor and it cost 1/10 than a Radius. Is still working well after five months.

Don't confuse cheap with poor, a lot of cheap vaping devices are not poor but well made.
 
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I've a cheap istick 10, the 20 has died after eight month vaping, not too bad, it is cheap but not poor and it cost 1/10 than a Radius. Is still working well after five months.

Don't confuse cheap with poor, a lot of cheap vaping devices are not poor but well made.

The istick 20w is cheap and very poor. It may well have lasted you 8 months but they are very poorly constructed. If yours is dead whip the top cap off and have a look at how the 510 pin is constructed, rubber and mastic I think you'll find :shock:
Now if that's not cheap AND poor I don't know what is.
 

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I would like to try other tanks ... however, I can't bring myself to pay for coils ... I liken it to drinking bottled water (I can afford it, I just can't do it). I am also totally content with my current vape setup.

This new Radius will be nice because I collect Provaris ... however, I still see myself content with a 2.5 topped with the Kayfun Lite v2+

How about those Blue Jays?


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Most likely not.... We do extensive double blind taste testing each time I design a tank, and i was unable to create something that used the Atlantis (or triton) coil that people would pick over the Nautilus in those tests... in fact... not a single person picked the Atlantis as having superior flavor.

It wasn't my goal to make a sub-tank OR a Plus-Ohm tank... My goal was to make a flavor tank irrespective of the end resistance. But with that being said, the decision to use a sub-ohm coil when regulated mods have as much power as they do makes absolutely no sense to me. As that coil resistance lowers, more and more power is lost in the connections between the mod and the tank, and even the P3 connection won't overcome that. Additionally, the air-flow on the Atlantis coils was WAY too open to be able to control in this style of air-intake. It doesn't work all that well in their tank either. It produces flavorless vapor by comparison.

This chart is a GROSS oversimplification but it illustrates how losses build up at lower resistances. (I apologize to the EEs in the crowd for this in advance... it's an illustration of losses without regard for the relationship of power/load and it assumes a series resistance that may or may not be correct, but it's in this range )

View attachment 498691

The bottom line in this illustration is; at .5Ω, 23% of the power is wasted in the connections... representing a loss of over 9 watts at full output. That is 9 watts that is NOT producing heat in your coil... it's wasted and lost. But look at the losses at 1.8Ω.... Only 7.69% is wasted... a loss of a little over 3 watts... the lower the build, the more efficient the entire system becomes. It's a fun chart... It illustrates how wasteful, from an energy point of view vaping at .5Ω is... and since we use batteries, conserving energy is of great importance!



Not a fan of that, sorry...

I have been saying this for some time, I'm glad you provided this chart...now I have proof! Thanks.
 

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I'll say this.... When I got the demo Radius last week and put the Kabuki on it, the thing hasn't left my hand since. There's more power than I'll ever need, flavor is amazing, and FINALLY, no need to carry extra batteries.

I leave the house with exactly ONE mod... ONE tank and a bottle of juice. There's a box of Nauti coils in my glove box just in case.

With over six years of vaping under my belt, and owning a MASSIVE collection of gear, I can actually say for the very first time, I'm content and confident.

ProVape knocked this one out of the park. SURE.. it's not for everybody, but maybe some of those "everybody's" would rethink the way they vaped if they had this combo.

Congratulations on a job well done to Vape360 and Crew... what a pleasure it is to use this combo!

Zen is really making me giddy...:banana::banana::banana:
gotta order a 3rd kabuki soon but this time with the P3.

and now please excuse me. I have a puddle of drool to clean up
 
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