Official ProVari Radius Thread

[DPLongo22]

Exactly. One part of me can't keep away from this thread and the other is angry with the first ("how can you be so curios? it's a mod, not a Mars expedition") This photo is tempting the child in you.

We Are Vapers!

(ruh-roh. Had to drag THAT up, did I????)

 

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Hoping to know what it is soon, but whatever it is I also want one now!

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm curious...

But tire of waiting...

You could almost say, that I have moved on.

It'll have to be spectacular to get my money.

Signed: a provari owner.


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You say that now...

 

[Zen~]

batteries have their limits and for some you may be correct, however, Samsung, Sony LG have batteries capable of much more, depending on build.

Very true... But do remember, the battery never actually "sees" the build of the coil... the battery in a regulated device sees the circuit, which has it's own input impedance and never actually connects directly to the build. The amount of current the circuit pulls while driving the build is what actually determines how hard the battery is being stressed, but the 25R IS capable of safely powering a circuit that can produce more than say, the P3 is currently driving. I'm sure an increase in power is possible in the new device... just don't expect a "true" 50 watts out of a 25R.

Around my shop we talk about watts quite a bit... we refer to REAL power that can be measured and repeated as "SAE wattage" and the imaginary imported wattage as "Chinese Imperial" wattage. I've measured many devices that are rated at 60 Chinese Imperial watts that can only REALLY produce 36-38 Watts at the coil... even with a 25R.

Heck, even eVolv stopped trying to produce above 40 watts with a single cell.

 

[MikeE3]

oh geez ... just when I thought I was getting to the point of not wanting new gear ... I stumble onto this thread.

In my 4 years of vaping I went from cig-a-likes to regulated to mech to DNA 40's and in the last few month's I've been mainly using my old Provari's and a P3.

So here I am ... hooked on watching this thread waiting for the announcement. Will this be Provari #7 in the house?

 

[AstroTurf]

Very true... But do remember, the battery never actually "sees" the build of the coil... the battery in a regulated device sees the circuit, which has it's own input impedance and never actually connects directly to the build. The amount of current the circuit pulls while driving the build is what actually determines how hard the battery is being stressed, but the 25R IS capable of safely powering a circuit that can produce more than say, the P3 is currently driving. I'm sure an increase in power is possible in the new device... just don't expect a "true" 50 watts out of a 25R.

Around my shop we talk about watts quite a bit... we refer to REAL power that can be measured and repeated as "SAE wattage" and the imaginary imported wattage as "Chinese Imperial" wattage. I've measured many devices that are rated at 60 Chinese Imperial watts that can only REALLY produce 36-38 Watts at the coil... even with a 25R.

Heck, even eVolv stopped trying to produce above 40 watts with a single cell.

Well Said!!!

 

[redrebel821]

Oh, this is exciting! I love my 2.5 and still use regularly. What new goodness is Provape planning?

 

[USMCotaku]

Oh, this is exciting! I love my 2.5 and still use regularly. What new goodness is Provape planning?

Welcome to the "watchers"

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[AstroTurf]

Well Golleeee...

Lots a folks interested in a free something or another.

Too Funny

 

[Katdarling]

Always excited to see something new from a well regarded manufacturer. Whether or not this will be something I will want remains to be seen. I don't need or want gobs of power, I like tube, and mechanical box mods. What I really want is reliability at a reasonable price, so you can probably guess where my box mods come from. As far as vv, vv/vw goes, it's Provari for me. I have two 2.5's, a P3, and a 2015 Classic, and considering another Classic. Any of those four will run any topper I have to my satisfaction. A couple of those can be seen with a carto/tank attached from time to time.
Disclaimer: I am an ole fart who is thankful to be smoke free for 4-1/2 years after smoking for almost 60 years, and I don't need lot's of power to remain smoke free, and enjoy vaping.

oplholik! Toot Toot!

Fasttech sells EVERYTHING! Don't they make a Bugatti Veyron (clone, of course) for like $149.99, or thereabouts? It's not quite as fast as the original, of course.



It sure took ya long enough, Sir Rod. We've been waitin' on ya.

And they've got wraps for it, too.


Welcome Sir 'Brow!

 

[Vape360]

Thanks for the PM Vape360 ... I promise I won't say anything


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Nice try

My account doesn't have PM.

 

[AstroTurf]

Willy will go to any lengths to get another ProVari...

Watch out folks!!!


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[oplholik]

oplholik! Toot Toot!

Yur durn tootin, Kat.

 

[USMCotaku]

Well Golleeee...

Lots a folks interested in a free something or another.

Too Funny

Are you publicly announcing that you don't want a free provari, and are bowing out of the contest?

Or just throwing stones in a glass house?

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

 

[nebulis]

... A lot of new vapors are starting with either a 0.15 ohm tc coil on a tc mod- or- a 0.5 ohm coil in a subtank. From there its anyone's guess where they move to; but, that is what people are now using to get off cigarettes.

Yes they do - because this is what they get in the shops. And why do the shops sell this kind of stuff - because they hope to push liquid sale by means of these thirsty devices. And because this is what China has been floating the market with. Quite frequently people do not succeed to get off cigarettes with these devices - too hot, too strong, too much, too complicated.

So the hotter the market, the more reason to hope for something completely different from ProVape - IMHO.

 

[Zen~]

They did; but, not for the reasons you're alluding to. They went straight for the 200 to more or less make a point. They made their point and listened to customers; Which, is why they have a 133w dual 18650 variation of the same board. The failure of the dna40 put evolv in a position of either saving themselves; or, rendering themselves complete failures. As an IEEE certified electrical engineer, some of these batteries are capable of providing substantially more power than 30w(remember its also the amok draw and applied voltage based on Resistance). I wholeheartedly agree with you that you pay for that amount of power with run time, but, some of us are willing to pay that price, at times. For those not willing just dont use the mod running wide open all the time. I'm here being the mouth about it and I don't run like that all the time, case in point -I'm running my dna200 with a kayfun4 right now at 26w with a stainless steel build in temp control mode (35w preheat, 6.8 punch). This morning I had a dual coil SS build on it at 50w. neither of which I could run on the p3, 9 wraps of SS is a 0.43 ohm single coil build. Essentially that means I either buy another 180$ tank or rebuild this when I want to use my p3 and I'm both cheap and lazy so I use any other mod in the collection other than the p3.

Point is the technology is evolving. A lot of new vapors are starting with either a 0.15 ohm tc coil on a tc mod- or- a 0.5 ohm coil in a subtank. From there its anyone's guess where they move to; but, that is what people are now using to get off cigarettes. We were not that lucky when we came off of them 2 yeas ago or longer. The new technology is making it easier for them by providing a different type of vape experience than 2 and 3 ohm cartos, or 1.5 ohm clearomizers. The same gear runs just as well on a higher power mod's (set lower, hence the minus button) as it did in yesteryear gear only it runs many other options as well.
I just really hope that Provape is evolving with the technology this time around, I like them as a company and admire their ability to make a well built product, would be nice to say I want one of their offerings.

To the batteries though, there are some interesting test results published here

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...ah-bench-test-results-a-good-20a-cell.683772/

Numbers are fun... Let's see how far vaping will evolve if every user needs to be an IEEE certified electrical engineer to be able to vape.

Plug and play, man... it's the future of vaping.

I have a dream... Some day a vaper will be able to buy a device and never know how many watts it is...

I have a dream... Some day a person will be able to free themselves of the cancerous death of combustible tobacco without having to know that Ohms law even exists.

Yes, I have a dream that one day people will not smoke because vaping is easier, and safer, and more pleasurable than smoking ever was. That Vaping won't just be for people that understand math and science. That vaping will be so easy and so much safer than smoking ever was. Because until it's easy for everybody, and foolproof beyond imagination, smoking will continue to kill people.

Smokers now walk into vape shops and walk right out... it's TOO intimidating for them. Ohms, Watts, Voltage, Rebuilding, Wire Gauges, Titanium, Stainless Steel, Kanthal, Nichrome... really?

And just TRY to get past the lies that are printed on SO many battery wrappers, to justify safety that truly doesn't exist as people use the C rating to determine the MAXIMUM "pulsed current" (whatever the hell that means) to suck every last bit of energy out of that cell before it explodes.

If I want to make a piece of toast I buy a toaster. It heats up the toast, puts on a nice crispy outer layer of charred bread, and I add some butter.

If I want vapor, I want to dump some juice in a tank and push the button. Just like my toaster. I don't care how many watts it takes, what the voltage is, the temperature, etc. Wouldn't that be better to not know? To go through life as blissfully unaware of what's going on behind the scenes, just like most consumer electronics?

It's great that some people love the math, and the science, and all the manipulations, incantations and provocative squats necessary to be a high power vaper. For some people (not saying you in particular) it has become a hobby to argue about what it takes to make a great vape happen. I'm sure that's pretty fun for them...

I just want to vape... safely... and I want to make devices that vape well, and are easy to use. So easy that the math really doesn't matter, so people can get on the with business of shoving nicotine in their face with the ease of smoking.

 

[jseah]

The only reason why I haven't gotten a Provari yet is because of it being underpowered.

 

[redrebel821]

I started with eGos...and got a Provari after trying one out. The eGos may have gotten me to quit smoking, but my trusty mini kept me from smoking! I've gone to subohming part time, but my Provari stays charged with a Protank for when I need my higher nic fixes.

 

[WillyZee]

awesome posting Zen

ProVape, we need hints please


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[Zen~]

The upside is, ive seen some of the high power vapors with a surprisingly well tuned mind for ohms law and electronic principles. Of course for very idiot savant ive seen, there have been 2 idiots behind them

Ohms Law: First published in 1827, Ohm's law is an empirical law, a generalization from many experiments that have shown that current is approximately proportional to electric field for most materials.

Many people now believe it is the cure for lung cancer.