OK, why all the ProVari hate?

[DaveP]

I got really tired of pot metal and aluminum ecigs. The threads wore out from removing and replacing cartos and batteries and there were dents all over from accidental drops and bangs. I'd screw on a new carto and it would sit at an odd angle from thread wear. The fire button would cut off after a few seconds and I was limited to 3.3v.

When I finally decided to buy a Provari my decision was based on two things. One was that I had already spent over $200 on various Chinese mods that didn't satisfy me enough to give up the last few cigs I was smoking every day. The other was intermittent connections where I had to twist the carto to get a good vape again. I fiddled with the center contacts to get a connection from time to time. There were well made mods out there, but most at that time were 3.7v just like the eGo. Narrowing down the field left only a few VV mods (at that time) that were capable of producing a vape at 3.5 amps. They were all expensive.

I kept saying I wasn't going to spend $170 on an ecig and then I realized that my monthly expenditure for tobacco cigs was that much anyway. At that point, I jumped for a Provari. It worked right out of the box, the threads aren't worn the least bit after a year of use, and it produces the same vape all day, every day. What more could I ask?

Call me a fanboy, but I'm just relating the truth as I know it. The thing just works. I may just buy another as a backup. The cost made me wait a long time, but it's worth it in longevity. It will last.

The haters just haven't tried one. Sure, there's lots of good mods out there, but they generally cost more than the average Chinese offerings. It doesn't take long trying this and that to add up cost equal to a good, well made mod. Do the research, read the reviews, look at the features, and make a decision that will pay off in the long run.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

While I do find it irritating that the Chinese copied the the American design, it really hacks me off that they are now the innovators in design and the Americans refuse to even play catch-up.

Galen

Have you used all of these mods? Just curious. Have you held a Provari and an evic at the same time? Have you held a Provari and any other Variable tube, besides the Buzz pro at the same time?

 

[JKVaper]

I got really tired of pot metal and aluminum ecigs. The threads wore out from removing and replacing cartos and batteries and there were dents all over from accidental drops and bangs. I'd screw on a new carto and it would sit at an odd angle from thread wear. The fire button would cut off after a few seconds and I was limited to 3.3v.

When I finally decided to buy a Provari my decision was based on two things. One was that I had already spent over $200 on various Chinese mods that didn't satisfy me enough to give up the last few cigs I was smoking every day. The other was intermittent connections where I had to twist the carto to get a good vape again. I fiddled with the center contacts to get a connection again. There were well made mods out there, but most at that time were 3.7v just like the eGo. Narrowing down the field left only a few VV mods (at that time) that were capable of producing a vape at 3.5 amps. They were all expensive.

I kept saying I wasn't going to spend $170 on an ecig and then I realized that my monthly expenditure for tobacco cigs was that much anyway. At that point, I jumped for a Provari. It worked right out of the box, the threads aren't worn the least bit after a year of use, and it produces the same vape all day, every day. What more could I ask?

Call me a fanboy, but I'm just relating the truth as I know it. The thing just works. I may just buy another as a backup. The cost made me wait a long time, but it's worth it in longevity. It will last.

The haters just haven't tried one.

^^^^^^ This I can definitely relate to.

I tried alot of other mods....all in my sig also including zmax, eVic, and kicked mechanical. Then realized what I was getting from my eGo twist was just as good, sometimes better, than what I got from all of them. Decided I wanted to be done buying, wasting $ buying mods....bought a Provari and I'm now satisfied. Put a battery with 3.5v charge remaining in any mod, then do a comparison voltmeter test with it under load. It's what works best for me, I want simple reliable.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

^^^^^^ This I can definitely relate to.

I think anyone that has been Vaping for a good while can relate to him. Unless they were smart enough and went quality right away. I wasn't that guy. lol. I've had pretty much all of the Chinese stuff. I still have a Zmaxx that I hand out when company is over but that's about the last of it. Just a couple weeks ago I thought it was the best thing ever. A few days and a few dings into it my mood changed. It just doesn't have that Provari quality. Not even close. Do I wish the Provari had vw? Probably. Do I need it? Nope. Do I even miss it? Nope.

 

[Firestorm]

that was Grouch Marx

Oops - you're exactly right. Woody even references it so.

 

[catoliver]

What's a Provari?

 

[JudeD]

Great Woody Allen line - he must use a Provari.

It's actually a twist on Groucho Marx's line. He sent a telegram to the Friar's Club saying, "Please accept my resignation. I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would accept people like me as a member."

ETA-And now as I read further into the thread, I see that someone else has already pointed that out.

 

[flintlock62]

I have an eVic, and the verdict is still out. Yes, it has snazzy stuff, but it also has useless stuff as well. How many people actually use the computer MVR charts to keep up with their daily vaping experience?

This morning, the clock re-set itself and when trying to get the time back, it froze. I had to remove the battery to get it going again. There is a pic of a eVic broken from being dropped on a carpet from a short distance.

If one goes by durability, customer service, and over-all customer satisfaction, I'm sure the Provari comes in at #1.

Technology doesn't mean it's going go give a better vape, or last longer.

I am afraid that the EVic would win. It has a very impressive list of features, is really way ahead of any other mod out there as far as technology is concerned, and is MUCH easier to adjust the wattage/voltage than either your Provari or my ZMax. They will even instantly upgrade it via the internet for free instead of the $20 to send in and upgrade the Provari. If you just go by the features of the current batch of mods, Provari honestly comes in around number 4.

Galen

 

[r77r7r]

Now that we have everyone together for the weekly battle- what's everyone think about the new Provari Passthrough??

If it was smaller and lighter, I'd give it a shot. And, yeah, a lot cheaper.

 

[GalenCopes]

Have you used all of these mods? Just curious. Have you held a Provari and an evic at the same time? Have you held a Provari and any other Variable tube, besides the Buzz pro at the same time?

Since you asked, yes. I held and used the Provari at my local B&M. The owner was selling his used when he switched over to the ZMax. We both like to switch tanks and use rebuildables, so variable wattage was a BIG plus. When all was said and done, I could have had his Provari for what I spent on my SS VMax. For me, the lack of features ruled the Provari out.

The SS VMax actually feels very similar to the Provari...even down to the one thing I actually hate about my ZMax, the damned one button menu. Looked at the EVic and Vamo last time I was there. I loved the features of the EVic(it really is amazing), but not the feel. I will probably pick up a Vamo next time I am in there just as a backup. It is a plain mod, but looks to built like a Mack Truck...and they don't try to control everything with one damned button!

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice mod that was the top of the heap when it came out. It just hasn't kept up with the times. If it had, I would also own one...the price was not and is not an issue for me.

Now, how many of the current mods have you actually used?

Galen

 

[Robino1]

Why spend a lot of money on a device when you don't even know if vaping works? That's where I was when I started. I could've started with a Provari but didn't want to invest that much money since NOTHING had ever worked to get me off of cigs. Period. Even reading stories of all the successes couldn't convince me that this vaping thing actually could work for me.

To the OP, it isn't so much hating on the Provari, it's the mentality of SOME of the owners. There will always be fanboys and fangirls of everything. Even juices have that. It's when a product is mentioned CONSTANTLY, by the same people without a balance of opinion, it becomes a hate issue. All the fanboy-ism kept me from even wanting one even after I discovered that YES! Vaping does work!!!

It was only after I read balanced posts, both for and against, that I ended up getting one (after suggesting that's what I wanted for Christmas). I weighed what worked for me in the twists, which I started with as a great mid point entry into vaping, and what I was looking for additionally in my vaping evolution.

It's when people DON'T read a whole thread to see what has been suggested already to see if their possible suggestion has already been mentioned and jump right on the "Buy *insert favorite whatever here*. It is Fantastic!!!!!!"

To everyone, please read what the original poster is saying. Take a moment to think before you type. Re-read what you type before posting and ask yourself "Is this addressing what the poster is looking for?"

My two cents, which is worth considerably less.

 

[yellowrider]

I guess I did not realize this issue was such a big one. The positive.. and its not really a positive, but Provari owners do not sell for more then what the mod sold for new. But pretty damn close. Unlike the 250 and above club, who seems like half buy just to flip, or trade.
So for reasons like those, I will support provari and everything else that is not "limited mod" and the insane price tag that comes with it. But do not forget, if your looking for quality then price increase is expected.
But if I have to have a certain device to be "in" then count me out. I left high school over 12 years ago and have no intentions on going back.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Since you asked, yes. I held and used the Provari at my local B&M. The owner was selling his used when he switched over to the ZMax. We both like to switch tanks and use rebuildables, so variable wattage was a BIG plus. When all was said and done, I could have had his Provari for what I spent on my SS VMax. For me, the lack of features ruled the Provari out.

The SS VMax actually feels very similar to the Provari...even down to the one thing I actually hate about my ZMax, the damned one button menu. Looked at the EVic and Vamo last time I was there. I loved the features of the EVic(it really is amazing), but not the feel. I will probably pick up a Vamo next time I am in there just as a backup. It is a plain mod, but looks to built like a Mack Truck...and they don't try to control everything with one damned button!

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice mod that was the top of the heap when it came out. It just hasn't kept up with the times. If it had, I would also own one...the price was not and is not an issue for me.

Now, how many of the current mods have you actually used?

Galen

All of them. If you are into RBA get a mech, just a suggestion. If it's one thing the Zmaxx can't do it's the low ohm RBA.

 

[doots]

It is a good device, for sure.. Kind of would like to see some new innovations in it or different shapes maybe. I sold the 2 I had to get Vamos. I like the vamos better.. Easier menu system and do as much as ProVari and are much cheaper.. imo

 

[GalenCopes]

All of them. If you are into RBA get a mech, just a suggestion. If it's one thing the Zmaxx can't do it's the low ohm RBA.

To be honest, I have just about gone crazy trying to oxidize the stainless mesh enough to where it wouldn't ground out the coil. I have some ceramic wicks in the mail now that I hope to cure my difficulties. At that point, a mechanical mod may be required. I really wasn't planning on going super low on the ohms, but you never know where this road will lead you.

Galen

 

[ratpack7]

Be careful with that evic. There was a recent thread where a guy dropped it 4 feet on the carpet and it broke lol.

There is also a thread about a guy that has to hit his provari with a hammer every 5 mins to keep it from falling apart. lol
(just to be fair)

 

[tj99959]

Personal opinion of course, but in a nut shell Provati haters are folks that have never had one.
Most on here haven't been around here long enough to remember the GG haters/fanboys, and the number of people that were banned from ens for even mentioning the name Imeo. Didn't make any difference that the GG is a pretty nice PV just like it doesn't make any difference that the Provari is a nice PV. Human nature is human nature, and good luck if you think you can change that. I use to love playing "King of the Hill" when I was a kid. Younger folks watched TV when they were kids instead of playing those games outside, thus the need to get it out of their systems here

 

[Chimney34]

As someone who doesn't own a Provari...yet, I can see both sides of the coin. Sometimes when you start a chat about a evic, or a Vamo or anything VV almost immediately you'll get a ton of people sayin just get a Provari. But most of the time they dont say why you should get one. For some people that can be annoying. It kinda was to me in the beginning. Until I started to do my own research it didn't make sense why everyone was hyping it up so much. What caused me to even consider it was the superior service & warranty they seem to have on top of what seems to be stellar performance. Yes some people may not be able to afford one or just refuse to pay that amount for any device but I spent about 200 a month on cigarettes so it really wasn't about the price for me. Just my 2 cents....needless to say ill be drinking the Kool-aid as they say in about 2 weeks & ordering my first Provari! I'm excited...wish I could click on buy now!!

 

[mikejm]

Haters gonna hate.

Get a Provari.

 

[gthompson]

I think most of the "hate" is for Provari owners, not Provaris.