Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[Hazewitch]

Mornin' all...

Missed some of the action on the thread but I still take the time to type up some posts when I can.

First things first....welcome to all the new members on the porch. Everyone on here is quite knowledgeable and very VERY friendly.
Make friends,talk about vaping,and always ask for a tall glass of country Tea(I actually did try that once and it was amazing)


.......................................................Vapemail and the land of the free(or not so free)..............................................

First off, just placed my very first order online with Mt baker for some ejuice a few days ago. Now, I'm not really a fruity tasting vaporer so my preference is tobacco with some flavor added( I mix my own. Want something done right do it yourself where applicable). Of course, I went online and did some review hunting for Mt Baker Tobacco flavors. Very mixed and subjective to say the least,one mans poison is anothers' gold...

A big thank you and hug to "Slots" for pointing me in the right direction when ordering from them. Here's my "sample" list


Your Order Contains:

1 x Ankara Tobacco E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 20% VG 80%, Bottle Size: 30 ml + $2.5, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x Oriental Tobacco E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 50% VG 50% , Bottle Size: 30 ml + $2.5, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x Rum Tobacco E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 20% VG 80%, Bottle Size: 30 ml + $2.5, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x Stag Leaf Tobacco E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 20% VG 80%, Bottle Size: 30 ml + $2.5, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x Ecto Cooler E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 50% VG 50% , Bottle Size: 15 ml, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x East Coast Tobacco E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 50% VG 50% , Bottle Size: 50 ml + $6, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)
1 x 555 Menthol E Juice Baker Vapor
(Nicotine Strength: 24 mg/ml (Strong), Blend: PG 50% VG 50% , Bottle Size: 30 ml + $2.5, Extra Flavoring Shot (.50 8oz, .25 under 8oz): 0)

As you can see I am trying out most of their popular leafy flavors and will definitely put up a review somewhere on here for you guys. The idea here is to simulate that tobacco hit while vaping. Getting that elusive flavor only found on analogs(and in turn allowing me to move away from the real thing). easier said than done but I persevere. Most say the Ejuice never comes quite close to the real thing but,we experiment and move on....

One thing I hated was the fact that, my ten percent discount was overwritten by the shipping. Since my order reached a little over fifty dollars. Cute trick indeed,but nothing in life is truly free. If I ever create an online Ejuice site , the shipping is free, the extra flavoring is free...why complicate it for the consumer.


Ordered some nice clones from Fasttech as well. The Russian 91% to start off my RDA adventures, a Bagua clone mod,and some rotatable stainless drip tips(im loving these). Now, after reading and re-reading the horror stories about Fasttech, I thought why not give them a try. I found out that they do indeed have a warehouse here in Miami but operating under a different name it seems. Will attempt to find more info on it and pass whatever I find to everyone.


.....................................................Dollar store Vapement bargains......................................................................


I have coined the word "Vapements" as any object that is used for the purpose of vaping. This is inclusive of needle-nose pliers,scissors,nail clippers,etc...not just tanks,mods,batteries,etc...if you use it for vaping its a vapement.

Visited the local Dollar store and found some nice tools for Vapementation all under a dollar. Found a collection of O-Rings, never know when you will need them.

BigLots was a nice visit. here are some things I found and made use of right away. I am not the Tupperware king but at least I am trying to get organized. Additionally, why pay for so much to get this done? are we not already paying enough for juice etc....find that bargain.

A nice simple container. Flat with latches and some spare plastic "drawer" columns to create your own space. Niffty..2.00

I think I might need more than one

What happens when a plastic Hot Dog container and a Vaporer meet?..well...he/she creates the "Mod bed"..2.00

This little guy was begging to become a container for mods and such. I decided to use two cut small pieces of Shammy cloth as protective bottom and top. Works great. Make sure you keep your little fellas comfy and warm on those bitter cold nights,they deserve it.

small wick container - 1.00

..........................................................Vapinions.....................................................................................

One thing I have learned about this whole vaping experience is that it can become exponential in terms of so many choices and gizmos that would leave the newcomer(seriously hate the word "noob"..if it is actually a word) very delirious and understandably frustrated.

The one big advice I have been receiving since involving myself into this venture is to do your research. Watch YouTube reviews,read articles, ask questions on the forum. You need to obtain a good knowledge base of where you are standing prior to just plug-in and vape. I did just that. went on to Ebay and bought a few Evod and cloned Ego-T's (still with me and very much prized in my book), but only now am I realizing what my true preferences really are. Ask yourself how far you are willing to go on this hobby(it can become one, and an expensive one at that).

For me it was all about quitting smoking. Vaping has not assisted me in quitting but instead it has become a hobby for me. Re-building coils,collecting the mods and tanks,etc...Im enjoying my vapes but am also attempting to push over analogs(cigarettes) out the door and place the vape as my one true love(not sure why I wrote it that way). Telling your girlfriend its time to move on is not as easy as one may imagine. In the end its all about the vape.

Met a fellow vaporer at Starbucks the other day. while waiting in line for caffee we talked about each others devices and what not,and as he took a hard hit the lady next to him asked to please not blow the vape at her. He apologized to her while the look of disgust remained on her face. although most if not all of you would immediately stand up for the vaporer, why not look at a different perspective, from the one who is inhaling the "second-hand vape".

Obviously, without any knowledge of what this vaping thing is about, wouldn't you take offense if someone began to vape next to you, blowing out thick clouds of vape all around, and you left to breath it?. This is why i limit my vaping activities indoors. The fact is, while the world keeps turning and changing, who are we to impose a new way to smoke( call it vaping if it makes you feel better) to others who do not care for nor want to be exposed to these vapors. It is quite impetuous for us vaporers to believe that we must have the non-vaporers accept the new norm and standard. Keep in mind that vaping is the "alternative" to smoking. I could care less about the studies and findings showing how safe is it. If you vape in public than you are exposing whatever safe/harmful chemicals all around you. The individual next to you may not want to breathe such chems. It's not a matter of getting the word out to the public, its a matter of being respectful to the person next to you to respect their space.

Sorry for not being the follower but I pave my own path. If what I say offends the sensibilities of the vaping community for not skipping the rope along with them than fine.

and with that I leave all of you and begin to vape my Trophy wife on a 4.2Ohm coil....ummmmmmmmm


Good morning to all and have a safe weekend

 

[Slots]

I see we have another one jumping on the gravy train.

Just wish they knew what true vaping was all about.
Then again, maybe it's better they don't !

Electronic Cigarette Market Is Now Being Ventured By Altria Group Inc.

 

[mdw3258calif]

lol - I have wayyyyyyyyyyy too many flavours going at one time, I think (like about 14) which probably explains why I can't keep track of who's on first and what's on second...

I hear ya! I finally made a little spreadsheet to print out and track what's in each mod and tank, and record my reviews. And that's with only about 6 tanks going at a time. I am OLD! I forget things, almost right after they happen! Writing stuff down is my only hope

 

[Myrany]

I hear ya! I finally made a little spreadsheet to print out and track what's in each mod and tank, and record my reviews. And that's with only about 6 tanks going at a time. I am OLD! I forget things, almost right after they happen! Writing stuff down is my only hope

I am too lazy for that. I write what juice it is on a tiny bit of painters tape and stick it to the tank. Peels off with no residue later.

 

[mdw3258calif]

But, if you think the MVP2 is too dull, take a look here: Authentic Innokin Itaste MVP 2 0 Energy. They even have one called Petals that has flowers on it. I know it's ebay. But, people here have been buying from this vendor and swear by them. I'm thinking of getting the Petals MVP2 myself.

I have bought two MVP2 Energies from this vendor, including the Petals. Great devices, perfect - vendor service is flawless. I now have 4 MVP2.0's, 1 VV V3, and 2 EGOs. I don't think I would live long without my MVP2.0s. I do not have hand issues, but even though they are a bit heavy, there are various ways to hold them. Their long-lasting battery life and reliability makes them my go-to device!

 

[Hazewitch]

Just finished my first very own Organic Cotton re-build!!!!....set it up in about 7mins...which is close to the 16yr old girl in Cuba who can re-assemble an AK-47, Meter read 2.85 "Ω" with just four wraps using 34g Kanthal....

I per-boiled the cotton earlier yesterday. The flavor is way more intense than just the silica wick. Vape cloud production is thicker.

anyway...good morning again....

 

[Myrany]

Just finished my first very own Organic Cotton re-build!!!!....set it up in about 7mins...which is close to the 16yr old girl in Cuba who can re-assemble an AK-47, Meter read 2.85 "Ω" with just four wraps using 34g Kanthal....

I per-boiled the cotton earlier yesterday. The flavor is way more intense than just the silica wick. Vape cloud production is thicker.

anyway...good morning again....

You might find 34 gauge heats up way too quick and you pop coils more often. I use 30 or 32 gauge in my builds. Seems to be a happy medium of good performance and durability.

 

[Hazewitch]

You might find 34 gauge heats up way too quick and you pop coils more often. I use 30 or 32 gauge in my builds. Seems to be a happy medium of good performance and durability.

yea...just ordered 32g Kanthal(from Temco - great site)...too bad my coil heats up. but anyways...at least im getting the hang of it. Feels like when I was 12yrs old playing with my Sears and Roebuck Chemistry set. My cat (Black Feather) keeps me company with wide-eyed looks, asking that same question..."are you insane sir"?....lollll

Just ordered some more specials from Vaporjoes. Nemesis clone and an Aerotank(was curious with the airflow). I love all my Kangers. Seems most folks complain about them.

 

[umanbean]

..... I love all my Kangers. Seems most folks complain about them.

Not "most" really... it's just that the complainers are more vocal, same as with any other product. Also, it seems to me that most, if not all, complainers haven't really put forth much effort to investigate solutions to the problems they're having.

I'm a Kanger BCC fan myself, but then again... I (and obviously you) did the research and solved the "muted flavor", gurgling and other "problems" complainers usually espouse...

The "problem" with any new technology is not the technology itself, but with the attitude of the people who can't be bothered to try and figure it out. Honestly, I think it's a lack of self-confidence. Fear of failure keeps many people from even trying.

As a self-employed (and self-taught) computer tech, I hear this all the time, mostly from grown men:

"I don't know a damn thing about computers, hell I even have to get my wife to show me how to turn it on."

And they say it with such braggadocio that the "not knowing" almost seems like a badge of honor somehow.

Anybody who says to me "Well, you can't teach an old dog new tricks." I say to them "Depends on the dog."

 

[H. Hodges]

Ummm... all my eGo chargers/cables shut off (green LED) when da batt is charged. BTW, I don't have a pass thru. And, my Nitecore i4 has no eGo/USB charging capability.

If I remember right (it's been a LONG time since I used an eGo style bat.; in fact I only used them for about 8 months after they first came out!), the LED light is on the battery adapter input end of the cable (as apposed to the USB adapter end). If this is (still) true, wouldn't it suggest that the charging cable, and not the AC adapter, indicates the capacity of the battery and would shut down charging whether utilizing an USB input or AC input with the charging cable? I submit, and I'll admit probably ignorantly, that there is the possibility that your charger does not shut off if using your computer or AC adapter to charge an eGo. And here's my reasoning: If the control circuit that shuts off the charging is in fact in the battery adapter end of the cable, then wouldn't it then shut off the charging independant of the input supply? We do know that eGo's are known to experience thermal runaway, when supplied by a computer USB input and are overcharged. So, that indicates to me that the control circuit is probably not located in the battery adapter end of the cable where the charge LED is located. And, I'm not really sure about this, but I don't believe most AC adapters for USB cables are "smart" adapters. Therefore, I'm scratching my head on what is turning off the charge circuit on eGo USB charging cables; whether using the AC adapter, USB computer input, or even a 12v DC adapter input.

That's why, or my thinking behind, I stated that it might be time for someone to invent a 4 port intelacharger for eGo batteries. Couldn't hurt, IMHO.

 

[H. Hodges]

yea...just ordered 32g Kanthal(from Temco - great site)...too bad my coil heats up. but anyways...at least im getting the hang of it. Feels like when I was 12yrs old playing with my Sears and Roebuck Chemistry set. My cat (Black Feather) keeps me company with wide-eyed looks, asking that same question..."are you insane sir"?....lollll

Just ordered some more specials from Vaporjoes. Nemesis clone and an Aerotank(was curious with the airflow). I love all my Kangers. Seems most folks complain about them.

To answer your cat's question: "Yes Sir, YOU ARE INSANE!' But welcome to the club (or porch.....which ever....they might be interchangeable at this point!)!!!!! Glad to hear you are well on your way down "THE PATH" of no return. However, I just got the Nimmy clone from Fasttech a number of months ago. When I first got it, I didn't notice the gold ring under the top cap is removable and had a hell of a time trying to get my 18650's to fit right. I e-mailed Fasttech support and was referred to the pics they have. That's where i noticed the top cap without the ring, put 2 and 2 together, and figured it out! You'll have for the 18650 set up (from bottom up): a switch assembly, the main tube (with etching and lock ring), 1 beauty ring, 1 battery extension tube, and then the top cap w/out the beauty/kick ring. It is a great mod and have enjoyed it immensely!

And, if you already knew all this, just forget I said anything!

 

[Hazewitch]

To answer your cat's question: "Yes Sir, YOU ARE INSANE!' But welcome to the club (or porch.....which ever....they might be interchangeable at this point!)!!!!! Glad to hear you are well on your way down "THE PATH" of no return. However, I just got the Nimmy clone from Fasttech a number of months ago. When I first got it, I didn't notice the gold ring under the top cap is removable and had a hell of a time trying to get my 16650's to fit right. I e-mailed Fasttech support and was referred to the pics they have. That's where i noticed the top cap without the ring, put 2 and 2 together, and figured it out! You'll have for the 18650 set up (from bottom up): a switch assembly, the main tube (with etching and lock ring), 1 beauty ring, 1 battery extension tube, and then the top cap w/out the beauty/kick ring. It is a great mod and have enjoyed it immensely!

And, if you already knew all this, just forget I said anything!

actually I had no knowledge of this until you brought it up,so thank you.

yes...from what I have seen on youtube,particularly some UK vaporers who are hardcore nemesis(original authentic) owners have a hate/love relationship with the this clone. It seems that the clone is near to specs as the original. On vaporjoes blog I saw that someone on Ebay are selling them for 34.15 so I picked one up.

so thanks again

 

[H. Hodges]

actually I had no knowledge of this until you brought it up,so thank you.

yes...from what I have seen on youtube,particularly some UK vaporers who are hardcore nemesis(original authentic) owners have a hate/love relationship with the this clone. It seems that the clone is near to specs as the original. On vaporjoes blog I saw that someone on Ebay are selling them for 34.15 so I picked one up.

so thanks again

"It takes a village.....", to be cliche'! And, you're welcome sir. (Ok, another cliche', I just have toooooo!) "A smart man learns from their mistakes, a wise man learns form other's mistakes, and a truly exceptionally wise man.....always agrees with WHATEVER his wife says!" lol

 

[umanbean]

..... the control circuit that shuts off the charging is in fact in the battery adapter end of the cable, then wouldn't it then shut off the charging independant of the input supply? ...

It is (in the ego end), and it does (shut off). If you happen to look at one of the little ego chargers when the battery is almost fully charged, you'll see the red led blink periodically. It's shutting off the charging current so it can measure the battery voltage. When it hits the limit, it shuts off... until and unless it fails. Don't forget where these things are mfg'd.

 

[H. Hodges]

It is (in the ego end), and it does (shut off). If you happen to look at one of the little ego chargers when the battery is almost fully charged, you'll see the red led blink periodically. It's shutting off the charging current so it can measure the battery voltage. When it hits the limit, it shuts off... until and unless it fails. Don't forget where these things are mfg'd.

Got it! I wasn't exactly for sure, but trying to work through it logically. However, that still poses the question: "Why do ego batteries experience thermal runaway typically when charging on a computer USB supply, rather than an AC adapter?" I realize that it probably only happens when the circuit supply shut off goes bad, but is there a reason that they seem to (more commonly) fail when utilizing an USB computer supply vs. AC supply?

 

[umanbean]

..... "Why do ego batteries experience thermal runaway typically when charging on a computer USB supply, rather than an AC adapter?".....

Now that, I do not know. Unless there are just so many more people using computer USB ports than wall warts that the law of probability kicks in.

I do know this for a fact, many computer USB ports can't handle much of a load. That still doesn't seem to explain it though.

The specs for computer USB ports are 5v +/- .2v @ 500mA (.5A), but many don't meet spec. The Ego USB chargers pull 420mA. Maybe, somehow, if the computer port is not up to spec and gets overloaded, bad things happen at the charger?

 

[1wildman]

A lot of laptops have underpowered ports. Might be a function of the amount of power available to the port when running off battery. Some computers have a specific USB port for higher demand devices.


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[Myrany]

Speaking of clones. I won a contest early this week and got a Hammer clone. Now I fully admit it is NOT ladylike at all but I really like this thing. Even with my small hands it is very comfortable to use and the button is super easy to push. The one downside is it is really HEAVY. As in would make an admirable weapon heavy.

 

[H. Hodges]

Now that, I do not know. Unless there are just so many more people using computer USB ports than wall warts that the law of probability kicks in.

I do know this for a fact, many computer USB ports can't handle much of a load. That still doesn't seem to explain it though.

The specs for computer USB ports are 5v +/- .2v @ 500mA (.5A), but many don't meet spec. The Ego USB chargers pull 420mA. Maybe, somehow, if the computer port is not up to spec and gets overloaded, bad things happen at the charger?

Sounds logical, (maybe some of you computer/electrical engineer guru's out there can chime in on this) but in my linear thinking, wouldn't the USB port be damaged in an overload situation instead of the charging circuit control? Thus, closing the supply circuit prior to delivering the load to the control head, or shorting prior to the cable. Unless, and this could be a possibility too, the overload at the USB port sends a surge to the control head and knocks it out? Which would then (possibly) allow for unrestricted supply flow to the battery??????

I do like the probability model you pose of more USB supply vs. AC supply utilization supporting the statistical occurrence of thermal runaway being more prevalent when using a computer supply.

 

[H. Hodges]

Speaking of clones. I won a contest early this week and got a Hammer clone. Now I fully admit it is NOT ladylike at all but I really like this thing. Even with my small hands it is very comfortable to use and the button is super easy to push. The one downside is it is really HEAVY. As in would make an admirable weapon heavy.

Now, THAT's just rubbing it in.....I Like it! Congrats! Get a conceal/carry license so you can carry it around legally in New Orleans! Watch out muggers, SHE's GOT A MOD!