Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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I personally have a few more than that, although I only rotate 12 at a time... Those 12 change depending on my mood
I won't try to catch up with ya. I'll just stick with the 69 bottles of flavoring that I have. I think my picture makes it look like fewer than that.
I'm currently running MVP2s and Protanks, but am looking hard at the istick and switching over to the nautilus'. I also have three kayfun 3.1 clones that I reserves for the porch in the evenings. My doctor said things are getting better. Any suggestions/experiences with mid-level mods would be appreciated.
Welcome, pardner! I use a Cloupor DNA30 box mod, about $70, and am completely happy with it. It's got the power button on the short side. The long-side location of the power button on an MVP is uncomfortable for me. The DNA30 is a little shorter than an MVP, a little larger in the other two dimensions, and a few grams heavier.

I give glowing marks to the 5+ ml Nautilus. I wouldn't like the Mini version nearly as much simply because of the smaller capacity.
 

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I would just like to consolidate my stuff! My vape lair is spred out all over the house basically. I do my builds on the top of my dresser, mix juice on a section of kitchen counter, store flavors in the top of the pantry cabinet in covered boxes, keep all my mods in the living room and do any modding out in the garage.:blink:
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Actually that's what our house looked like - vaping stuff everywhere! So we put the old secretary to use. Cabinet on top, desk in the middle and drawers underneath. It's working out pretty well - at least we know where to find things now.

Well, if the porch is dedicated to "Tex", I suppose we can mount some longhorns above the step. I'd mention a few spittoons but they would probably just get empty e-juice bottles thrown in them. Thinking about it, that's okay.

Hi all, my name is Jere and I live outside of Tombstone Arizona. I hope I don't need to take off my spurs.

I'm currently running MVP2s and Protanks, but am looking hard at the iStick and switching over to the Nautilus'. I also have three Kayfun 3.1 clones that I reserves for the porch in the evenings. My doctor said things are getting better. Any suggestions/experiences with mid-level mods would be appreciated.

Welcome to the porch!! Glad to have you join us. We're still waiting for our iStick so we'll let you know how that goes after it arrives. I wouldn't replace a coil when changing flavors (unless you just feel like it), just remove the wicking and give it a dry burn. The coil doesn't hold any flavor. It'll be easier and faster for you to change flavors too.

Nah, we don't mind the spurs, they make a nice little jingle!

Currently vaping on the Big Buddha with a mix of TFA Ripe Banana and TFA Cinnamon Redhots. Tasty. I tried a small batch of the TFA Blueberry Extra, and it tastes OK, but for some reason, it's a little harsh on my throat. I'm a little surprised because my liquid is still around 90% VG, and the other fruit flavors feel smoother. I was assuming that most of the throat hit was from the PG and nic, but the blueberry flavor itself seems to have throat hit. Has anyone noticed anything similar?

Did you try adding some lemon juice? I use that in all my fruit mixes.

Hi Jere,

That makes sense. You might find that when you have a build you like, you'll leave it in the Kayfun for weeks at a time. Once a week or so, you can just remove the wicks, dry-burn the coils, and rewick it. That's really all of the maintenance you need to keep them going. Then, if you want, you can carry the Kayfun around as your all-day vape. Just top off the liquid in the morning, make sure you have a freshly charged battery, and you're good for the day.

Yep, what he said. :)
 

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Well, if the porch is dedicated to "Tex", I suppose we can mount some longhorns above the step.

And an eagle's feather fer Elbert!

Hi all, my name is Jere and I live outside of Tombstone Arizona. I hope I don't need to take off my spurs.

Jere, as all long as dey don't jangle... we get sum lite nappers 'round here. But yere mo' dan welcome to tossed your saddle over da porch rail. Glad to have ya on da 'trail'!

Ummm, "outside Tombstone"... which side of da soil?
 

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Well, if the porch is dedicated to "Tex", I suppose we can mount some longhorns above the step. I'd mention a few spittoons but they would probably just get empty e-juice bottles thrown in them. Thinking about it, that's okay.

Hi all, my name is Jere and I live outside of Tombstone Arizona. I hope I don't need to take off my spurs.

I'm currently running MVP2s and Protanks, but am looking hard at the iStick and switching over to the Nautilus'. I also have three Kayfun 3.1 clones that I reserves for the porch in the evenings. My doctor said things are getting better. Any suggestions/experiences with mid-level mods would be appreciated.

Hi Frenchfry and welcome to the porch. Geez - I don't know how you reserve the Kfuns for the evenings. Once I moved to RBA's & RTA's I wasn't satisfied w/ any of the clearo type toppers. So that's what goes everywhere with me. I do have a Nautilus that vapes and tastes well - just for me, doesn't compare to a true rebuildable. And for the last few days - I just can't put down a CLT dripper. Picked one up to see why folks like dripping atty's and I'm liking it. Kind of a pain though to keep adding juice to it.

As to mid-level mods - I'll let other folks chime in there. I have a few Provari's and the rest of my PV's are mech mods.

I need to go out and buy my first set of bifocals :( I used to just be able to take my glasses off for close-up work, and had really good near vision. Getting old bites :)

ha - just wait 'till 2 focal lengths start failing ya and you move to progressives like I use. Got to learn to point your nose at what you want to look at and don't look down when walking down a set of stairs.
 

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I would just like to consolidate my stuff! My vape lair is spred out all over the house basically. I do my builds on the top of my dresser, mix juice on a section of kitchen counter, store flavors in the top of the pantry cabinet in covered boxes, keep all my mods in the living room and do any modding out in the garage.:blink:
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I've got the end table by my recliner pretty much taken over by vape stuff now. It was originally all in a desk organiser on top, then I had to add some old ashtrays for the clearo collection. Then things started creeping into the top drawer, then the bottom drawer, and I just added a nail polish rack on the side for juice bottles. But except for some nicotine in the freezer, and a few mixing items in the kitchen, and a shotgun shell case for the flavors (I can't handle the smell if their in the open) it's all in one place, for now.
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Well, if the porch is dedicated to "Tex", I suppose we can mount some longhorns above the step. I'd mention a few spittoons but they would probably just get empty e-juice bottles thrown in them. Thinking about it, that's okay.

Hi all, my name is Jere and I live outside of Tombstone Arizona. I hope I don't need to take off my spurs.

I'm currently running MVP2s and Protanks, but am looking hard at the iStick and switching over to the Nautilus'. I also have three Kayfun 3.1 clones that I reserves for the porch in the evenings. My doctor said things are getting better. Any suggestions/experiences with mid-level mods would be appreciated.

Welcome to the porch! I have a love/hate relationship with the nautilus. It holds a lot of liquid, and is super easy to fill, but I've had a lot more problems with gurgling and spitting from it than with my Davides or Protanks. And it does need higher wattage and uses more liquid, though not as much as dual coils.

I need to go out and buy my first set of bifocals :( I used to just be able to take my glasses off for close-up work, and had really good near vision. Getting old bites :)

I went from never needing glasses directly to bifocals, but I can still get by without glasses for distances, except for driving. And I actually have trifocals with no correction in the middle section for computer use. My theory is that the real reason our necks get bent down as we age is from trying to walk while wearing bifocals.
 

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Hi misswish, why does it say you only have 7 posts? You have way more than that.

Hey, Classy, maybe you can help. Misswish2 used to be Misswish but had trouble when a new password was required, and had to open a new account. How can she get her previous posts added to her present total?

Yes, I went through 4 new passwords that still wouldn't let me sign in. I finally just made a new account, I need my ECF friends! I think I first signed up in maybe January? Thanks, guys, I appreciate you looking out for me! :wub:
 

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Cant seem to find a straight answer looking through the webs.
Are these dual coil builds only good for sub ohms ?
If I have one positive and two negative posts and two coils both connect to the positive and one to one negative and one to the other.
Then if i want 1.4 ohms using 28 gauge on 2mm diameter seems I have to wrap the coils 18 times.
More than the 5 or so most are doing but yes they seem to be going for 0.5 ohms.
Still can't find the exact difference between dual coils in parallel or series - Seems parallel you half both coils resistance and series you add the two together but looking at pics they look the same.
So are these builds only good for sub ohm results unless you want several wraps to get to over 1ohm ? :confused:
 

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Cant seem to find a straight answer looking through the webs.
Are these dual coil builds only good for sub ohms ?
If I have one positive and two negative posts and two coils both connect to the positive and one to one negative and one to the other.
Then if i want 1.4 ohms using 28 gauge on 2mm diameter seems I have to wrap the coils 18 times.
More than the 5 or so most are doing but yes they seem to be going for 0.5 ohms.
Still can't find the exact difference between dual coils in parallel or series - Seems parallel you half both coils resistance and series you add the two together but looking at pics they look the same.
So are these builds only good for sub ohm results unless you want several wraps to get to over 1ohm ? :confused:

Hi Wolfenstark,

You can definitely use dual coils to hit greater than 1 Ohm. I've done it myself for my Kayfun Lite, though I'm currently using a dual coil build that's at .9 Ohms. It's easier to get a 1.4 Ohm dual coil build if you're using a thinner wire than 28 gauge, or if you're building coils bigger than 2mm. I mainly use 30 gauge, and a 2.8 Ohm single coil at 2mm is around 11 wraps. Two of those in parallel will bring you down to 1.4 Ohms. Or, if you build a 3mm coil out of 28 gauge, that's around 13 wraps.

The reason this might be a good thing to do is that you're spreading the same amount of heat over a larger surface area of wick. That keeps the temperature lower where the coil touches the juice, which can prevent the juice from scorching, but still deliver a lot of vapor. This can help solve some wicking and airflow issues as well.

The way to think about resistance is like water flowing through a garden hose. The thinner the hose is, the slower the water will flow through it, and the thicker the hose, the faster the water will flow. Amps are like how much water is flowing through the hose. Thicker wire resists the flow of electricity less than thinner wire, just like thicker hose resists the flow of water less than thinner hose. If you take two hoses and lay them side by side, then twice as much water will flow through them as with one hose. That's like building two coils in parallel, you get half the resistance and twice the amps. On the other hand if you screw the two hoses together end-to-end to make one really long hose, then you're adding to the resistance in the hose and half as much water will flow through (not really, because hoses don't exactly work like wire, but you get the idea). This is like putting two coils in series, which doubles the resistance and halves the number of amps.

To wire two coils in parallel, both coils should have one + leg and one - leg. The two - posts are tied together by the body of the atomizer, so it works exactly the same if you hook the two - legs to one post or to both posts. To wire two coils in series, you have to have the - leg of one coil hooked to a post, the + leg of that coil connected to the - leg of the second coil, and the + leg of the second coil hooked to the + post, just like hooking two hoses end-to-end instead of attaching both of them to the faucet.

Hope this helps!
 

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Thank you PapaSloth
Seems to require less wraps the larger diameter you use but i guess you have to have the atomiser to see how much space you have to work with. As Im wondering how many wraps and size of diameter can you have.
Punching above my weight atm but just getting a feel for it.
Oh so more wraps can be ok due to spreading the same amount of heat over a larger area. I see people just doing 4-5 wraps and i get it that they are going for 0.5 or less and I'm not thinking of copying them but these videos make up most of the tutorials online.
So two wires where one end of each wire goes to its own negative but the same positive is parallel ? For atomisers I have seen with one positive post and two negative.
 

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Thank you PapaSloth
Seems to require less wraps the larger diameter you use but i guess you have to have the atomiser to see how much space you have to work with. As Im wondering how many wraps and size of diameter can you have.

Yes, that's exactly right. The longer the hose is, the less water will flow through it. If you take a 100 foot hose and wind it into a 2 foot coil, you get 50 wraps, but if you take the same 100 foot hose and wind it into a 1 foot coil, you get 100 wraps. It's the same length of hose though, so the same amount of water will flow through it, regardless of whether it's 100 1 foot wraps or 50 2 foot wraps.

You're also right that the limit is how big your build chamber is. A bigger chamber gives you more room for bigger diameter coils and also for longer coils with more wraps. Remember, you also have to fill the coil with wick, and make the wick pick up the juice, and a bigger coil will require a bigger wick. So, that can be a limit as well.

Punching above my weight atm but just getting a feel for it.
As long as you measure your builds on an Ohm meter before firing them on a battery, you really can't go wrong. At worst, you might miss the target you're shooting for, and have to adjust your build or start over from scratch. Always use an Ohm meter though, and recheck your build every time you screw on a chimney part, because you might have gotten a short. I had a short once after screwing on my chimney, and the wire actually arced and welded itself to the chimney when I fired it. Oops. Don't do that :) I could have seriously damaged my battery if the wire hadn't burned out.
Oh so more wraps can be ok due to spreading the same amount of heat over a larger area. I see people just doing 4-5 wraps and i get it that they are going for 0.5 or less and I'm not thinking of copying them but these videos make up most of the tutorials online.
Yes, you mainly see cloud chasers working on dual coil builds, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful for those of us who just like a little more flavor :) I'm not a cloud chaser, but I do like a denser vape, and building dual coils has helped me to produce more vapor without getting burnt juice.
So two wires where one end of each wire goes to its own negative but the same positive is parallel ? For atomisers I have seen with one positive post and two negative.
Yes, that's exactly right. Both coils have their own negative posts, but share a common positive post is still a parallel build, and will have half the resistance of each coil total, and push twice as many amps as with one coil. Or, if you had three coils, you'd have 1/3rd the resistance, and push three times as many amps. Once again, it's like hoses. If you attach two hoses to the same faucet, you get twice as much water coming out, and if you attach three hoses, you get three times as much water.
 
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