Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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I'm currently "stopped" at VV/VW mods. I like the convenience of being able to "tune" my vape for different flavors, and of not having to be overly concerned that all my coils are exactly the same resistance. A good replaceable battery VV/VW mod will have about the same vape time (given equivalent batteries) as a mech. The Kick in a mech is an add-on bit that provides VW for a mech.

Seems like most of the mechanicals have only 510 threading, not Ego as well. Many VV/VW mods have both, and I like the versatility of that as well. (VV3, MVP have both as well.) So any 510 threaded topper, including drippers, PTs, Davides, etc. should work fine on them.


You mentioned replaceable battery VV/VW mods, do you have any recommendations? Also, if I'm understanding it right, if you use a kick on a mech and the kick fails, you just buy another kick. I'll have to do some price comparisons on the VV/VW mods vs. a mech + a kick.

I've noticed the prevalence of 510 mech threading too. I have a few mini Davides and a mini PT2 v2 that all have Ego threads and I like them a lot. I only have one 510 clearo, don't use it much because I'm not a big fan of the Ego beauty ring with a 510 look. I've been really happy with the iTastes so far, I've experienced some post sinking with both, a bit irritating but manageable. I also like the simplicity of use with these. If someone could tell me if/how I can use one to try dripping with I would be more than content to stick with them for quite some time, maybe just pick up a 3rd as a backup. Don't know why I really want to try dripping, I guess I want to see for myself if there really is that much of a taste difference, hey, I'm from the Show Me state ya know.....
 
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You mentioned replaceable battery VV/VW mods, do you have any recommendations? Also, if I'm understanding it right, if you use a kick on a mech and the kick fails, you just buy another kick. I'll have to do some price comparisons on the VV/VW mods vs. a mech + a kick....
I really enjoy my SIDs. I have two. One I keep in 18650 mode and one in 18350 mode. Tall and short :)

Edit: I got them at madvapes. The kit with the 18650 tube is only about $50
 

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I've been using the Sigelei 19 so much lately that when I picked up my Legend tonight..... I kept using my pinkie to try to activate. :facepalm: I have really been liking it with my igo-L. Lot of mixed feelings about that one but I enjoy sitting at night on ecf with my little dripper. I think the flavors are great in it. I may change my mind if I ever get my January 8th order from FT. Got a Eternity coming and looking forward to trying it. The video's look so easy. I love "easy".
 

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I really enjoy my SIDs. I have two. One I keep in 18650 mode and one in 18350 mode. Tall and short :)

Edit: I got them at madvapes. The kit with the 18650 tube is only about $50

Thanks for the info, they come in pretty colors too, lol, also has a replaceable control head, hmm... I'm off to check out the SID forum. Thanks again!
 

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I was wondering, did most of you more experienced vapers move on to mech mods and/or dripping?
Don't know why I really want to try dripping, I guess I want to see for myself if there really is that much of a taste difference, hey, I'm from the Show Me state ya know.....

Why a mech mod?
1. Preparing for Vapocalypse (no electronics to malfunction).
2. Sub-ohming.
3. They're pretty.

There's no reason you have to use a mech to drip. All you need is an atomizer and a battery. It doesn't have to even be an RDA. For about 6 months after I first started vaping I dripped exclusively with a 306 atty on an eGo battery. After 3 years vaping, that's still all my brother will use.

Ocelot has a good blog post about learning to drip: Drip, Drip, Drip - The Sound of Dripping

And, here's a good thread about dripping: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizers-cartridges/405910-regular-atty-drippers-dying-breed.html

I do have mechanical mods. My reason is Vapocalypse. But, just remember they don't have all the protection or extra features of a VV mod, whether a Twist or an SID. As long as you're not going to sub-ohm, you can use an RDA on a VV mod and get the best of both worlds.
 

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I was wondering, did most of you more experienced vapers move on to mech mods and/or dripping? I see posts throughout ECF talking about how much better the flavor of a juice is in a drip atty, is it really? Threads I read about mech mods make them seem a little intimidating (kicks, switches, etc.) and I can't seem to find any info about just plain old starting out with a mech mod and I don't have enough knowledge about them to ask questions in the mech mod forums. Are there mech mods that you can just use a tank with such as a PT, Davide, etc. or is that defeating the purpose of a mech? Do I even need one to give dripping a try? I'm mainly interested in a mech because of the longer use time they have between charging/ changing batteries and not having to replace the whole thing if the battery goes bad. I currently have a couple of iTaste vv v3s, are there simple to use/clean drip attys that will work with them?

Any info is much appreciated!

If you really want to try dripping, but don't want to invest into a device, just buy a 357 drip atty. It's a device that Phill
B. uses to test his liquids on his reviews. Just go to you tube and check out any of his latter juice reviews and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's worth the try and they can be used on any 510 device. As far as dripping rebuildable atty's, you can use them on any device as long as you stay above 1.3-1.5 ohms on the build coils. I use a IGO-W on my Vamo (set at 10-13 watts) all the time, with a 1.3 ohm dual coil set up, and have a great vape experience.

I do have three mechs, though, and this is where RDA's really shine; think of GREAT to OH MY FREAKING GOSH!!!!! There are a lot of variables in RDA's that can affect your vape experience; including coil build, wicking material, air flow, load drop, etc...... And they can be down right dangerous if you don't pay attention to THE LAW, ohm's law of course! I suggest that you try the 357 (low resistance 1.5 or normal 2.0 (ish) ohm rating) or similar atty, do A LOT of research, ask A LOT of questions even in the "expert" threads (that's where you REALLY start to learn, and MOST are really excited to help you), and check out Baditude's blogs on device descriptions and batteries before you make major decisions on whether to start down this road.

My personal experience with mechs and RDA's has been "vape life" changing, as most Drippers will probably agree with. And, YES, you can still use other devices on a mech. I use an Aspire DCBCC (Dual Coil Bottom Coil Clearo) Vivi Nova tank on my mech all the time. The original coil head was a 1.5-1.8 ohm factory build. I rebuilt it after burning it out (took a month!) and didn't put enough wraps on the coils (used 10 wraps (touching or contact coils) of 30g Kanthal on each of the two coils around 2mm silica). It checks out at .8 ohms now and I can't use it on my Vamo. The Vamo doesn't go below 1.3 ohms. So, I still plop it on my mech and take it out when it's not convenient to drip (ie: driving, shopping, long trips, etc... you get the point). It doesn't provide the airflow, volume, or flavor that my drippers do, but still a GREAT vape!

Hope some of this helps, and never be afraid to ask questions! The "experts" were ALL there once too! They learned by asking questions, gaining experience (by DOING: the good and the bad!), and research. Vaping has so many avenues to try and experience; it's all subjective, and IT'S YOUR JOURNEY. Don't be dissuaded by the occasional aloft elitist. Live long and VAPE ON!
 

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Why a mech mod?
1. Preparing for Vapocalypse (no electronics to malfunction).
2. Sub-ohming.
3. They're pretty.

There's no reason you have to use a mech to drip. All you need is an atomizer and a battery. It doesn't have to even be an RDA. For about 6 months after I first started vaping I dripped exclusively with a 306 atty on an eGo battery. After 3 years vaping, that's still all my brother will use.

Ocelot has a good blog post about learning to drip: Drip, Drip, Drip - The Sound of Dripping

And, here's a good thread about dripping: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizers-cartridges/405910-regular-atty-drippers-dying-breed.html

I do have mechanical mods. My reason is Vapocalypse. But, just remember they don't have all the protection or extra features of a VV mod, whether a Twist or an SID. As long as you're not going to sub-ohm, you can use an RDA on a VV mod and get the best of both worlds.

Thank you for the links. I am not interested in the sub ohm world, that's not something I would feel safe doing, so the plain old school method looks like a good place to start. I'm definitely going to do a lot more reading up on this.
 
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Oh my, you've lost me there, lol. So would I be standing on my head or....:D

ok A reo has the juice bottle INSIDE the mod. You squeeze the bottle which sends juice up through a tube into the dripping atty. So it is dripping flavor without ever having to drip juice into it. Which makes it portable and for most people usable one handed.

I do not sub ohm though I do use a rebuildable atty on my REO (you do not have to use a rebuildable on it).

REO grand - Getting Started Tutorial - YouTube
 

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If you really want to try dripping, but don't want to invest into a device, just buy a 357 drip atty. It's a device that Phill
B. uses to test his liquids on his reviews. Just go to you tube and check out any of his latter juice reviews and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's worth the try and they can be used on any 510 device. As far as dripping rebuildable atty's, you can use them on any device as long as you stay above 1.3-1.5 ohms on the build coils. I use a IGO-W on my Vamo (set at 10-13 watts) all the time, with a 1.3 ohm dual coil set up, and have a great vape experience.

I do have three mechs, though, and this is where RDA's really shine; think of GREAT to OH MY FREAKING GOSH!!!!! There are a lot of variables in RDA's that can affect your vape experience; including coil build, wicking material, air flow, load drop, etc...... And they can be down right dangerous if you don't pay attention to THE LAW, ohm's law of course! I suggest that you try the 357 (low resistance 1.5 or normal 2.0 (ish) ohm rating) or similar atty, do A LOT of research, ask A LOT of questions even in the "expert" threads (that's where you REALLY start to learn, and MOST are really excited to help you), and check out Baditude's blogs on device descriptions and batteries before you make major decisions on whether to start down this road.

My personal experience with mechs and RDA's has been "vape life" changing, as most Drippers will probably agree with. And, YES, you can still use other devices on a mech. I use an Aspire DCBCC (Dual Coil Bottom Coil Clearo) Vivi Nova tank on my mech all the time. The original coil head was a 1.5-1.8 ohm factory build. I rebuilt it after burning it out (took a month!) and didn't put enough wraps on the coils (used 10 wraps (touching or contact coils) of 30g Kanthal on each of the two coils around 2mm silica). It checks out at .8 ohms now and I can't use it on my Vamo. The Vamo doesn't go below 1.3 ohms. So, I still plop it on my mech and take it out when it's not convenient to drip (ie: driving, shopping, long trips, etc... you get the point). It doesn't provide the airflow, volume, or flavor that my drippers do, but still a GREAT vape!

Hope some of this helps, and never be afraid to ask questions! The "experts" were ALL there once too! They learned by asking questions, gaining experience (by DOING: the good and the bad!), and research. Vaping has so many avenues to try and experience; it's all subjective, and IT'S YOUR JOURNEY. Don't be dissuaded by the occasional aloft elitist. Live long and VAPE ON!


Thanks for the suggestion about the 357 drip atty. I think an RDA is above my comfort level right now, but hey, up until a few days ago I never thought I could rebuild a PT head either and I managed to do that with no major pitfalls. I think a lot more research is in order for me.
 

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ok A reo has the juice bottle INSIDE the mod. You squeeze the bottle which sends juice up through a tube into the dripping atty. So it is dripping flavor without ever having to drip juice into it. Which makes it portable and for most people usable one handed.

I do not sub ohm though I do use a rebuildable atty on my REO (you do not have to use a rebuildable on it).

REO grand - Getting Started Tutorial - YouTube

That's intriguing, sounds pretty convenient too. Thanks for the link. I am so loving this whole vaping experience, it's kinda intimidating and at times overwhelming, but fascinating too, and definitely an ongoing learning experience. This is so much more fun than smoking a lousy cig.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion about the 357 drip atty. I think an RDA is above my comfort level right now, but hey, up until a few days ago I never thought I could rebuild a PT head either and I managed to do that with no major pitfalls. I think a lot more research is in order for me.

Just to make sure you know (I couldn't tell from your reply, sorry), the 357 is not a rebuildable, but a sturdy, well built factory coil dripping atty that's about the same diameter as a carto, but shorter. It also does not have a fill material to hold juice; hence the need to drip 5-7 drops for every 5-10 toots (Thanks for the "toot" term Grimm!). They are great for trying juices or to use as a NO FUSS every day atty. I've heard of the 357's lasting most people months of daily use. But, just like all factory coils, they will eventually wear out and go bad. Rebuildables give you the ability to rebuild your coils and save A LOT of money; less than 1 cent per coil with weeks to months of lifespan. I still use carto's, but the life span of a good carto, in my experience, is 1-2 weeks at approx $2 per carto. Bounce that against my IGO-w @ $10-$12 initial cost and 1-5 cents in coils that last for months and you can see the price difference immediately. I'm not trying to convince you to get into rebuildables, this was just one of the reasons I did. I still enjoy a lot of different vape devices and topper combinations, and ENJOY ALL OF THEM. They all have their pro's and con's. But this is where i would probably start to rant and fanboy up..... So, again, I hope some of this helps!
 

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Just to make sure you know (I couldn't tell from your reply, sorry), the 357 is not a rebuildable, but a sturdy, well built factory coil dripping atty that's about the same diameter as a carto, but shorter. It also does not have a fill material to hold juice; hence the need to drip 5-7 drops for every 5-10 toots (Thanks for the "toot" term Grimm!). They are great for trying juices or to use as a NO FUSS every day atty. I've heard of the 357's lasting most people months of daily use. But, just like all factory coils, they will eventually wear out and go bad. Rebuildables give you the ability to rebuild your coils and save A LOT of money; less than 1 cent per coil with weeks to months of lifespan. I still use carto's, but the life span of a good carto, in my experience, is 1-2 weeks at approx $2 per carto. Bounce that against my IGO-w @ $10-$12 initial cost and 1-5 cents in coils that last for months and you can see the price difference immediately. I'm not trying to convince you to get into rebuildables, this was just one of the reasons I did. I still enjoy a lot of different vape devices and topper combinations, and ENJOY ALL OF THEM. They all have their pro's and con's. But this is where i would probably start to rant and fanboy up..... So, again, I hope some of this helps!

Many dripping attys like the 357 can also be used on bottom feeders like the REO if one is not inclined to build their own coils for a RDA. I went with the RM2 rebuildable on my REO because I was ALREADY building coils for both protanks and other RDAs.
 

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ok A reo has the juice bottle INSIDE the mod. You squeeze the bottle which sends juice up through a tube into the dripping atty. So it is dripping flavor without ever having to drip juice into it. Which makes it portable and for most people usable one handed.

I do not sub ohm though I do use a rebuildable atty on my REO (you do not have to use a rebuildable on it).

REO grand - Getting Started Tutorial - YouTube

Myrany is my hero. i rarely recommend a Reo outside of Reoville, cuz most folks just don't "get it"-- at least for a few months or longer.
 

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Myrany is my hero. i rarely recommend a Reo outside of Reoville, cuz most folks just don't "get it"-- at least for a few months or longer.
Awww shucks

/me blushes

Actually since the discussion was going in the direction of methods of dripping it sort of fit. A REO IS a different way to drip.

I knew I wanted a REO 1 month into vaping. It just took me a very long time to save up for one. Then the hubby gave me my 2nd one for Christmas. :)
 
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