Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

[Ken_A]

Well, I finally got up the internal fortitude to dispose of the Patooie, Spit, Spit juice. I thought I would just get rid of the juice & save the bottle. So I took the little dripper nozzle out, dumped the juice, & tried to wash it out with Dawn Dishwashing liquid. I had to trun on the fan in the bathroom the smell was so strong. I washed it well & set it aside to dry, spayed the air with Fabreez, left the fan on, & came out & shut the door. 2 hours later I went back, & the smell was just as strong. So I sprayed the air again, ran more hot water & soap down the drain, came out & shut the door. 2 hours again, & I went back & the same strong smell. I started looking around to see if I'd spilled some or something. Picked up the bottle & smelled it, & that's where it was coming from! That smell couldn't be cleaned from the bottle! I've never had a bottle retain the smell of a juice before. Vry odd. So I marched that litttle bottle, nozzle & cap out to the trash. Now I'm just hoping it didn't follow me back in. And the bathroom finally smells normal again! Yay! I won!

naw, you lost! if you sit the bottle outside where the sun will hit it most of the day, the smell would be gone within a week.

Not often. I don't voop and am an evening pooper. These days a good poop makes for a good day though. Which apparently can go with quitting cigs, but in theory I should be back to world champion pooper status by now

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[3mg Meniere]

Not often. I don't voop and am an evening pooper. These days a good poop makes for a good day though. Which apparently can go with quitting cigs, but in theory I should be back to world champion pooper status by now

Psyllium has its rewards.

 

[MattB101]

I've had that issue, too. It's the PO not scanning packages.

At least your getting them. We had a postal worker arrested the other day for throwing whole bags of mail into a ditch on her route so she wouldn't have to sort and deliver them. Something around 15 to 20 bags before someone discovered them. Payed top dollar and lazy as hell.

Summertime, summertime, sum, sum, summertime. I can't wait for summertime!

 

[MattB101]

This is a day I never thought I'd see, and never likely would have alive if it were not for vaping; it's my second vaperversary too! I owe so much to ECF and have found so many friends here on the Porch and in the forums and the help and advice just keeps on flowing. You guys are the best, I love you all. Salute! [emoji14]arty:

Congratulations Myrany! I'm kind of in a state of disbelief about it. Happy disbelief, but still, it's weird. Two years, wow! Glad the FIL is gaining ground. Hang in there, I'm pulling for you all.

Congratulations to both of you. Another major milestone completed. Woo Hoo!

Summertime, summertime, sum, sum, summertime. I can't wait for summertime!

 

[amoret]

One of the major papers around here (okay, wouldn't be major anywhere 50,000 people isn't considered a big city) ran this editorial this morning. This is the same paper I've sent a couple of my letters to.

OUR OPINION: E-cigs bring benefits in smoking reduction

By Tom Dennis Today at 5:00 a.m.

Vaping looks like smoking.
And many regulators, including the FDA, want to treat vaping like smoking.

But vaping isn't smoking. Nor is vaping -- inhaling the nicotine-laced vapors of e-cigarettes -- akin to tobacco use; simply put, e-cigs don't contain any tobacco.

Instead, vaping is best thought of as a method of quitting smoking. As such, it can be a public-health tool. Because while e-cigarettes are not "safe," meaning zero risk, they're proving to be both dramatically safer than regular cigarettes and effective at helping people cut back on or quit smoking.

The public-health benefits of this latter achievement are huge. Regulators should keep those benefits in mind -- which means they should avoid heavy-handed rules that target vaping simply because the activity looks like smoking.

The strongest proponent of this view is Micheal Siegel, a professor at the Boston University School of Public Health. Siegel has impeccable credentials as an antismoking crusader. He has conducted tobacco research for 25 years and been a strong supporter of strict smoking and secondhand-smoke policies.

So, "when electronic cigarettes came to the U.S. about 2007, I was skeptical," Siegel wrote in January in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

"My assumption was they were a ploy by the tobacco industry to hook more people into smoking under the guise of being a safer product. ... But as I talked to many e-cigarette users, known as 'vapers,' conducted research (Journal of Public Health Policy, 2011) and reviewed a growing body of scientific evidence, I became convinced that e-cigarettes have dramatic potential for reducing disease and death caused by smoking."

That attitude has strengthened since then, as the evidence has grown that e-cigarettes offer significant public-health benefits (through smoking reduction) at comparatively low risk.

Importantly, Siegel is not calling for the FDA to abandon its regulatory role. Just the opposite: The agency "should set uniform safety standards for e-cigarettes and 'vaping' products," he wrote.

"These standards should include childproof packaging, battery safety, quality-control standards for nicotine labeling and the production of e-liquids" and the like.

But heavily regulating e-cigarettes as tobacco products is overkill. Such rules mean fewer smokers would quit smoking -- and that would be a public-health loss.

-- Tom Dennis for the Herald

This, after North Dakota failed to pass punitive taxes is such good news on the local front. I'll have to watch the letters to the editor for a couple of days in case the ANTZ get out and need countering.

The other bill that I haven't seen an outcome on yet is one establish no sales to minors that includes specifically defining e-cigarettes as not a tobacco product.

It's kind of hard to track bills at this point, because the ND legislative sessions kind of resemble speed dating. The state constitution specifically limits the legislature to once every two years for a maximum of 80 days. But basically anything that was killed in one house is completely dead, but any bill that make it to "crossover" can be amended in very strange ways.

 

[2legsshrt]

I'd say start w/ 2.5mm - a 3mm wick is a lot to feed. Might want to start at 2.5mm 'till you learn about the new atty.



So which one did you get. Aren't there 2 models depending on which heads you want to use with it?

Yeah Mike that is kinda what I figured RIP says when he is doing a single coil dripper he likes 1.2ohms so that will be 10 wraps at 2.5. Should cover quite a bit of wick too. More tasty vape. Oh and I am getting the V2 it has air holes for a single or double coil, I like that gives you more options. Oh and watch out for Viper Vapes because they told me it shipped on the 10th but didn't get scanned in till the 14th. I asked them if they sent it 20 mule team since they are in Carlsbad CA. They have annodized in colors and also cerrikoated I got the brushed SS. I like that on all my mods.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Chance of getting it tomorrow 2legs ?

 

[2legsshrt]

One of the major papers around here (okay, wouldn't be major anywhere 50,000 people isn't considered a big city) ran this editorial this morning. This is the same paper I've sent a couple of my letters to.



This, after North Dakota failed to pass punitive taxes is such good news on the local front. I'll have to watch the letters to the editor for a couple of days in case the ANTZ get out and need countering.

The other bill that I haven't seen an outcome on yet is one establish no sales to minors that includes specifically defining e-cigarettes as not a tobacco product.

It's kind of hard to track bills at this point, because the ND legislative sessions kind of resemble speed dating. The state constitution specifically limits the legislature to once every two years for a maximum of 80 days. But basically anything that was killed in one house is completely dead, but any bill that make it to "crossover" can be amended in very strange ways.

That is good for ND but here in WA they don't have oil or state income tax and a lot of politicians that need money. We legalized herb for recreational use. You can have up to an oz without a problem but they want to really screw up the vaping industry. We would be like a non vaping island in the US if they got everything they wanted. I have a couple of options (friends) that I could get anything I wanted and they would send it to me though so I'm not real worried plus I have a large stockpile.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Did a Marquis build today - 26g 6w 3mm 0.5Ω

 

[Wolfenstark]

That is good for ND but here in WA they don't have oil or state income tax and a lot of politicians that need money. We legalized herb for recreational use. You can have up to an oz without a problem but they want to really screw up the vaping industry. We would be like a non vaping island in the US if they got everything they wanted. I have a couple of options (friends) that I could get anything I wanted and they would send it to me though so I'm not real worried plus I have a large stockpile.

So what is your state doing to stamp down and get rid of tobacco use ? You know due to the cost of healthcare to treat smoking related illnesses.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Have you noticed that many people who are new to the forum but have been vaping always have to mention it.

 

[MikeE3]

One of the major papers around here (okay, wouldn't be major anywhere 50,000 people isn't considered a big city) ran this editorial this morning. This is the same paper I've sent a couple of my letters to.



This, after North Dakota failed to pass punitive taxes is such good news on the local front. I'll have to watch the letters to the editor for a couple of days in case the ANTZ get out and need countering.

The other bill that I haven't seen an outcome on yet is one establish no sales to minors that includes specifically defining e-cigarettes as not a tobacco product.

It's kind of hard to track bills at this point, because the ND legislative sessions kind of resemble speed dating. The state constitution specifically limits the legislature to once every two years for a maximum of 80 days. But basically anything that was killed in one house is completely dead, but any bill that make it to "crossover" can be amended in very strange ways.

Nice - nice to read a rational article in a newspaper for a change.

OBTW - so what do your legislators do with all their spare time if then only meet for 80 days every two years?

 

[Kenna]

naw, you lost! if you sit the bottle outside where the sun will hit it most of the day, the smell would be gone within a week.


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Probably, but I don't have a spot I can do that in.

 

[Kim B.]

Way to go Myrany and Flamingo! Congrats on two years smoke free. Here's to many more!

 

[Kenna]

Yeah Mike that is kinda what I figured RIP says when he is doing a single coil dripper he likes 1.2ohms so that will be 10 wraps at 2.5. Should cover quite a bit of wick too. More tasty vape. Oh and I am getting the V2 it has air holes for a single or double coil, I like that gives you more options. Oh and watch out for Viper Vapes because they told me it shipped on the 10th but didn't get scanned in till the 14th. I asked them if they sent it 20 mule team since they are in Carlsbad CA. They have annodized in colors and also cerrikoated I got the brushed SS. I like that on all my mods.

That order that I had that took forever to get here with no scans went from Carlsbad to San Moreno, I think it was. It scanned in there but never scanned out. It took nine days from showing scanned in there & then nothing until it got to my PO.

 

[amoret]

Nice - nice to read a rational article in a newspaper for a change.

OBTW - so what do your legislators do with all their spare time if then only meet for 80 days every two years?

Most of them have real jobs, too. That and there are a lot of committees and studies going on between sessions.

 

[2legsshrt]

So what is your state doing to stamp down and get rid of tobacco use ? You know due to the cost of healthcare to treat smoking related illnesses.

Tax the hell out of it close to $10 a pack. Around here everyone goes to Idaho to the Indian Res $22 a carton. Other places they go to some Rez in WA state but they are considerably higher then Idaho. Same with booze you can get it at the Idaho liquor store for about 1/2 of here.

 

[2legsshrt]

That order that I had that took forever to get here with noscans went from Carlsbad to San Moreno, I think it was. It scanned in there but never scanned out. It took nine days from showing scanned in there & then nothing until it got to my PO.

Yep same with mine so far local PO the scanned in at San Moreno supposedly to be delivered tomorrow. We'll see.

 

[Rotowoman]

Do you Poop?

Hello boys and girls, I don't mean to be facetious..
but I figured the front porch would be the perfect place to ask this question;

Surely most of us old timers smoked cigarettes for a number
of years and got into the habit of having that first smoke or several
and maybe a cup of coffee before going to the toilet.

The question then is, assuming you no longer smoke cigarettes,
do you vape nicotine containing juice first thing in the morning
before going to the toilet or on the toilet?

Can you "go" w/o it?
Thanks in advance for your anticipated candid replies.
Regards,
Hazy

Nothing like a good vape first thing in the morning, along with the first swig of coffee to get things going. That's my answer, and I'm sticking to it!

 

[MikeE3]

For the voopers