yabbut I'm gonna drop to 21 when I start mixin. Been mixin some 24 and 18 together and doin ok on that. Uhmmm....most of the time, not a lot, about 4mls a day.
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yabbut I'm gonna drop to 21 when I start mixin. Been mixin some 24 and 18 together and doin ok on that. Uhmmm....most of the time, not a lot, about 4mls a day.
4 ml/day of 21 mg/ml = 84 mg/day. And, 365 * 84 = 30,660 mg/year.
Since 1,000 ml of 100 mg/ml = 100,000 mg, you would need about 1 liter of 100 mg/ml every 3 years or so.
Does that help?
So if I use 8 oz bottles to store nic base that's 8 bottles to store a litter & I can get 8 30ml bottles out of an 8 oz. (240ml) bottle of base. Going with the bigger bottles, will take one out to thaw & mix 8 30 mls for 2 months at a time.
are you doing 50/50 pg/vg pr what? I'm practicing on the calculator.
jup a bunch!!! I've really wondered about this.....but everything you said up until 1 liter every 3 years really made my head hurt!! lol
probably around 75 pg
Since I got you math folks here...... (teresa) tell me if I did this right please.
Unflavored 70pg 100 nic mg in pg I got 480 mls of juice using 100.8 nic 235.2 mls pg and 144 mls vg Just wanna make sure I plugged all the right stuff in all the right holes and didn't leave any out. Figgered I'd round to 100 mls nic and 235 mls pg.
Unflavored 70pg 100 nic mg in pg I got 480 mls of juice using 100.8 nic 235.2 mls pg and 144 mls vg Just wanna make sure I plugged all the right stuff in all the right holes and didn't leave any out. Figgered I'd round to 100 mls nic and 235 mls pg.
21 ml nic is 6.3 ml nic base. 4ml juice a day = 120 ml a month or 4 30 ml bottles a month. And brain farts just kicked in, so i'm stuck. gnite everyone!
I normally just post the link. I don't post questionable stuff. If in doubt I just leave it out.
MFS has 1 liter bottles for $50. Couple/three of those and your set for life!
Definitely close enough for gummint work. It looks like the calculator you're using doesn't take into account the fact that your nic juice is only 90% PG. The calculator computes as if it's 100% PG. The reason it's actually only 90% PG is that the other 10% is nicotine.
So using the figures you've supplied, the actual PG/VG ratio that you'll come up with is 68/32 rather than 70/30. Close enough that no one would be able to tell the difference.
If you add any flavoring, most flavorings are mixed with PG which will raise the PG percentage.
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Wow matt, you dug those posts up from awhile back. Glad you did though on the one adding the KSTM to the acronym list, cuz I was thinking about this the other day and couldn't remember what should be added!! Now I know. If I can add it before I forget again. (and yeah I realize that wasn't the part you were quoting about but it worked for me) and jup, figured that's why they picked that date........but newp........ we've established a liter of nic will only last me 3 yrs at current vaping levels. So unless the Lord comes back quick....I'll need more than 2 or 3 (I hope). lol
Thanks Bells
Thanks Bells
BB is right. But, that's too much for me to think about. I just treat the 100 mg/ml nic as if it was 100% PG. It'll be a little off. But, I choose not to look. That way I won't know the difference. What it comes down to is that I didn't know the difference when I started and just keep doing it the same way.
But, he's also right about the flavorings. You do need to take into account your percentage flavors and what base they're in (usually PG).
But, for unflavored, you're pretty much right. To be exact, I get:
100.8 ml nic in PG + 259.2 ml PG + 120 ml VG = 480 ml juice (75/25 @ 21 ml/mg)
You were aiming for 75/25 PG/VG, right?
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thanks. the one I had done and saved was 480 ml juice 70 pg but just changed it to 75 pg and got exactly what you got. So that's good.
Your nic would ALMOST fit into 4 bottles (240 * 4 = 960 ml).
One 8 oz bottle would make a lot more than 8 30 ml bottles. 8 30 ml bottles IS 8 oz! You would only need 43.2 ml to make 8 30 ml bottles. So, you might want to consider storing in 60 ml bottles instead of 240 ml bottles.
Remember that any flavoring you add will also reduce the nic level of the juice. If you're looking to end up with 21 mg/ml nicotine level, you can't add flavoring if your unflavored juice is already at 21 mg/ml.
Examples:
Adding 10% flavoring to 21 mg/ml unflavored nic juice in 70% PG will reduce the nic level to ~19 mg/ml and will raise the PG percentage to 72%. (The actual final flavoring percentage would be 9%, because your new total amount of juice is 110% of your original amount.)
Adding 20% flavoring would reduce the nic level to 17.5 mg/ml.
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I always mix up a big batch of unflavored base. I mix one base allowing for 10% flavoring and another base allowing for 3% flavoring (for tobacco juices). I figure that's close enough.
I break down the liter bottle into 120ml bottles and then store them in a box in the back of the freezer. It does two things - keeps them safe from prying eyes and little fingers (we have no children around here, but I am not taking a chance - sometimes they visit) and prevents clinking of the bottles and blocks sunlight...
Why 21?... when you start mixing you can make any number you want.
May I make a suggestion?
The math (and all that mixing over time) would be a lot easier if you just used a nic level that is easily divided into 100. So go with 20... your bod will never know the diff.
I never could figure out exactly why store-bought jooses went 24-18-12-9-6-3
I started out buying nic at 48mg, because both 24 and 16 will go into 48 evenly, and I used high-nic then with low-power devices. Then I bought some 60 because 1) Initially I was "scared" of getting some 100 on my skin, and 2) 60 is divisible by 3-4-5-6-10-12-15-20. I still have ~1/2 bottle of 60 left, and two unopened 1L of 100 I've purchased since.
One, or even two or three, percentage points difference from what the store bought joose comes as does not make one whit of difference to me.
One other thing, if you later get better gear than what you have now, your nic stash may last longer than you figure on right now.
When I was still using Protank 2's, over time I lowered my nic from 20 to 15, then 10 and stayed there for the longest time. When Kanger came out with the Subtank and Eleaf the iStick 30, I got one each of those and 10 was killing my throat. I've always mixed 240ml of 50/50 @10mg/ml, and still had plenty mixed up, so I added 1/3 more 50/50 to get 7.5 -- still too strong... so I now cut 10 in half to get 5 or by 2/3 to get 3.33
Also, the eJuiceMeUp program has a "Nic Combine" feature under the "Tools" menu... that's the part I use most.
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