Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three
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Washington State news.
• E-cigarettes: Inslee-backed bills in the House and Senate to increase taxes and impose new restrictions on electronic cigarettes, or "vaping," did not receive floor votes in either chamber
Nice! This is good news to start my day.
Absolutely! Regular sales tax like anything else.
Honestly, I think medium level starter kits should be given away for free to anyone who asks (like condoms and clean needles).
This is life-saving stuff and should be strongly encouraged, not taxed out of existence.
That last bodes well. But they still have to come up with a budget, and could well try to sneak things into that...
Hopefully, although... see above. But we may have dodged it for another year.
Both the Senate and House bills, dead in committee, were very similar to ones introduced (and dead) last year, so, yes, they probably will bring them back in some form next year (if they don't sneak provisions into a budget bill...
)I'm actually ok with things like proper labeling, childproof caps. Seems most of the makers are going that way already anyway. But if they want to tax nic, then they need to put the same tax on things like the patch. (So it's a "sin" to inhale your nic, but not a sin to get it through the skin??)
We already have a higher sales tax than most States, and the B&M's pay the B&O tax. They obviously don't realize they'll lose all that with a de facto ban. And spend more $$ paying unemployment to all the workers who lose their jobs because the stores can't stay in business...
The best explanation that I've seen for the flurry of regulation/taxes on ecigs involves money paid to the states by big tobacco. Many states sold bonds which are backed by payments from BT. If cigarette use falls off enough, BT will pay less and the states risk defaulting on the bonds.
If I had the money, I would explore suing for "taxation without representation" which is what I believe the exorbitant taxes on tobacco products represent.
Remember the hall monitors and the sneaky little creeps in high school? They become bureaucratic toads/state legislators and revel in exercising power over others.
If I had the money, I would explore suing for "taxation without representation" which is what I believe the exorbitant taxes on tobacco products represent.
Remember the hall monitors and the sneaky little creeps in high school? They become bureaucratic toads/state legislators and revel in exercising power over others.
That's the rub, of course. As individuals, most of us don't. So they think they can get away with it...
BT and BP do, and both see their revenue stream declining as well as the various States. So, either ban or tax the $%@^ out of vape gear that ISN'T from BT/BP fits their agenda. Health has never been a concern in relation to "sin taxes."
When i spent a little bit of time googling I found a lot of articles about the tobacco bonds and how only about 12% was being used for medical needs related to tobacco problems.
actually, the nicorette inhaler is also not a sin, so they cannot base it on breathing.
Florida was one of the few who didn't do that... But still want to tax. Also due to the loss of revenue.
As far as sueing goes... Indigogo or Kickstarter. I would not only contribute, I would advertise the crap out of it.
Update on my new flavorings:
I got my blueberry candy down to a half bottle, so added a bit of nic, and refilled the rest with my PG/VG mix and it is indeed a lot smoother. So about 5% is what is good for me.
he, he - one of the 'bad boys' back in high school days known for his penchant of liking to 'fight it out' behind the school is now a state representative and running now for the state senate.
I'm very happy, so far, with the iStick 30W (2200 mah non-removable battery) and the iStick 50W (4400 mah non-removable battery) that I got today from Rocky Mountain Vapor. (Coupon code FORUM will get you a 15% discount.)
Make that very VERY happy!
Here they are, each topped with a 5 ml full-size Nautilus clearo. The iStick 50W is definitely small and pocketable while the iStick 30W, on the bottom, is a delightfully TEENY little thing. The Nautilus doesn't stick out over the top edge on either one. With the iStick 30W, that's thanks to a lip which extends over the edge of the top surface.
Make that very VERY happy!
Here they are, each topped with a 5 ml full-size Nautilus clearo. The iStick 50W is definitely small and pocketable while the iStick 30W, on the bottom, is a delightfully TEENY little thing. The Nautilus doesn't stick out over the top edge on either one. With the iStick 30W, that's thanks to a lip which extends over the edge of the top surface.
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Tx didn't take the money either, but is still trying to do bad stuff. Not nearly as bad as other places, but still bad. and yeah Fl really has NO excuse for the crap they're trying to do
Vapemail!
My vape-iversary "presents" got here today! The Ego ONE atty w/ 1100 mah battery, an Ego ONE 2200 mah battery, and a Subtank Nano.
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Sigelei #20 w/ Protank 2 (2.5ml)
Ego ONE w/ 1100mah batt (also 2.5ml)
ST Nano w/ 2200mah batt (3ml)
ST Mini w/ iStick 30 (4.5ml)
I'm luv'in the ONE atty on the 1100mah... Literally fits in the palm of your hand. And, as the young'uns would say "Dude, this thing chucks the vapor!"
It's hard to believe so much power in such a small package.
I'll put up more pics and a review after a couple of days use, hopefully this weekend.
ciao y'all
My vape-iversary "presents" got here today! The Ego ONE atty w/ 1100 mah battery, an Ego ONE 2200 mah battery, and a Subtank Nano.
L-R
Sigelei #20 w/ Protank 2 (2.5ml)
Ego ONE w/ 1100mah batt (also 2.5ml)
ST Nano w/ 2200mah batt (3ml)
ST Mini w/ iStick 30 (4.5ml)
I'm luv'in the ONE atty on the 1100mah... Literally fits in the palm of your hand. And, as the young'uns would say "Dude, this thing chucks the vapor!"
It's hard to believe so much power in such a small package.
I'll put up more pics and a review after a couple of days use, hopefully this weekend.
ciao y'all
Fantastic Vapaversary gifts umanbean! All the ones I got for myself this month were just because I wanted them 
probably won't even get something extra in Nov for my 3 rd year because I have what I want now.
probably won't even get something extra in Nov for my 3 rd year because I have what I want now.
Two more days to go for the weekend. In a few hours, I'll have three months smoke free.
I hope everyone on the Porch is doing well.
Congratulations on your three months!
I still remember being in awe that I hadn't smoked for three months when I hit that milestone. It only gets better. Again, congratulations!
Washington State news.
• E-cigarettes: Inslee-backed bills in the House and Senate to increase taxes and impose new restrictions on electronic cigarettes, or "vaping," did not receive floor votes in either chamber
Wonderful news! You guys fought a good fight and won! Congratulations!
Those bills do come back like the plague but perhaps the longer they can be put off, the more chance the truth about vaping will prevail and the bills will fade like a bad dream.
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