Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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MikeE3

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I do get a breakin taste with rayon in my kayfuns. I got use to it knowing its going away after a few hits. IMO I'm getting the breakin taste from having my wicking pretty tight in the coil along with not letting it sit long enough to fully absorb the juice but I've had no dryhits, leaking or wicking problems wicking my kayfuns my way. The rayon doesn't expand when juiced so you have to make up for that by wicking it quite tight. Once you get rayon wicking down in whatever atty, you'll not go back to any other wicking material.

Yep - rayon and I didn't get along in the beginning. For a week or so I tried various builds w/ rayon and wasn't getting it right. So I just went back to KGD. Then a few weeks later I gave it another try - got it right and now use rayon in all my builds except the soft NI200 coils.
 

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My only issue with rayon was in my single coil protank builds. I just dunno why but after vaping a PT full, after refilling the draw became real tight and almost suck your eyeballs in to get a vape, its weird but my solution was reverting back to hemp fiber for my wife's PT builds.
My rayon came in a 500' rope and I cut the required length for a 2.5mm kayfun build, split the rope in half, remove a little bit more then twist it tight as can be along with twisting it as I'm sliding it through the coil then back twist it so all the fibers are straight. If its a 3mm build then I use half the cut piece of rayon.
In reading about microcoils being bad :rolleyes: I'm back to using a machine screw and spaced coils in which I'm beginning to prefer to the microcoils. 6 wraps of 28 gets me @1.0 ohm and makes for a good vape.
 

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I still use a variety of single bottom coils, as well as true rebuildables. Had similar issues with rayon in them, and since I like to be able to dry burn those a few times before rebuilding those little guys, I actually still use silica in them. And cotton yarn to replace the flavor wicks :)

Yup, 4-40 machine screw. Perfectly spaced coil, every time :thumbs:
 

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My only issue with rayon was in my single coil protank builds. I just dunno why but after vaping a PT full, after refilling the draw became real tight and almost suck your eyeballs in to get a vape, its weird but my solution was reverting back to hemp fiber for my wife's PT builds.
My rayon came in a 500' rope and I cut the required length for a 2.5mm kayfun build, split the rope in half, remove a little bit more then twist it tight as can be along with twisting it as I'm sliding it through the coil then back twist it so all the fibers are straight. If its a 3mm build then I use half the cut piece of rayon.
In reading about microcoils being bad :rolleyes: I'm back to using a machine screw and spaced coils in which I'm beginning to prefer to the microcoils. 6 wraps of 28 gets me @1.0 ohm and makes for a good vape.

ewww ~ hemp. I just could not use it. No matter how I prepped it before wicking - I always tasted a strong hemp flavor to any juice. I even boiled it for hours - nope still hemp taste.

That's pretty much my standard build too - 28g kanthal +/- 1Ω spaced coils.
 

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And for the ones this is too complicated for they make squonkers.
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:lol: Never had a problem squonkin and drivin!

I got it cleaned up and was about to put it back in the box but decided to give it one last try
Glad you did, and glad you're having more success with it! @Mrs C told me some things that might help, but now I forgot what they are. lol perhaps she'll appear as summoned and chime in :)

I love an Egg Nog vape :) I'll be makin' me a Nog for the Holidays :D
oh kewl. Was always curious about an egg nog but never bought any, but with your recipe (if you'd be so kind as to share) and with yiddle trying to perfect one, I'll give it a shot.

Once you get rayon wicking down in whatever atty, you'll not go back to any other wicking material.
welcome alter!!
 

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Thanks Deb.
I do have a procedure to using the hemp fiber, yes its a bit of hassle but it performs much better than cotton and I've not heard my wife complain in over a year and a half about her wicking. I did boil my hemp fiber but that was when boiling was mainstream and boiled enough to last me a loooong time.
I have a magnifier lamp so with the hemp I detangle it and look for all the off colored shards, bunnies and what looks to me to be shards of stalk and stems. I remove all those with tweezers which does take a few minutes. I do know if I forgot some shard cause it does have a woodzy taste ( I prime and make sure my wife's vape is ready before I give it back to her) but I got pretty good at it and rarely miss any. The hemp will last over a week in the DIY cotton candy(4.5% Desert Ship,1.5% Sig Circus Cotton Candy in a 50/50 base) 1.8ohm protank builds I make for her unlike the cotton that barely got a few days before I was rewicking. I also got my hemp form a coop in ECF and its nice raw stuff not like the hemps I've found in stores that have a waxy feeling to them and smell more like jute than hemp.
 

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:lol: Never had a problem squonkin and drivin!


Glad you did, and glad you're having more success with it! @Mrs C told me some things that might help, but now I forgot what they are. lol perhaps she'll appear as summoned and chime in :)


oh kewl. Was always curious about an egg nog but never bought any, but with your recipe (if you'd be so kind as to share) and with yiddle trying to perfect one, I'll give it a shot.


welcome alter!!

I think what I'm going to do is to take the rumchata and sub eggnog for horchata and maybe brandy or bourbon for the rum....
 

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My only issue with rayon was in my single coil protank builds. I just dunno why but after vaping a PT full, after refilling the draw became real tight and almost suck your eyeballs in to get a vape, its weird but my solution was reverting back to hemp fiber for my wife's PT builds.
My rayon came in a 500' rope and I cut the required length for a 2.5mm kayfun build, split the rope in half, remove a little bit more then twist it tight as can be along with twisting it as I'm sliding it through the coil then back twist it so all the fibers are straight. If its a 3mm build then I use half the cut piece of rayon.
In reading about microcoils being bad :rolleyes: I'm back to using a machine screw and spaced coils in which I'm beginning to prefer to the microcoils. 6 wraps of 28 gets me @1.0 ohm and makes for a good vape.
Idk about micro coils being bad..but my coils are not the usual micros and are closer to macro coils. 26ga. 7 wraps on a 2mm pulsed and not fired to the point that they are glowing..Juice cools them off and they don't even glow while vaping.
It's always something isn't it?!? I do use rayon but the micro coil thing just sounds like a lot of ......

latest


........................... to me anyway. :lol:
 

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I do get a breakin taste with rayon in my kayfuns. I got use to it knowing its going away after a few hits. IMO I'm getting the breakin taste from having my wicking pretty tight in the coil along with not letting it sit long enough to fully absorb the juice but I've had no dryhits, leaking or wicking problems wicking my kayfuns my way. The rayon doesn't expand when juiced so you have to make up for that by wicking it quite tight. Once you get rayon wicking down in whatever atty, you'll not go back to any other wicking material.
I've gone back to KGD already. I like the taste better than the taste of the rayon. The rayon wicks cleaner but the KGD tastes cleaner. Makes sense to me.

Pretty sure I got the rayon wicking right on my first try, and I fill the head with joose before I use a new wick so it's not a case of the wick not being wet enough.

That's my definite opinion, not likely to change in the next hour. After that, who knows?
 

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Howdy yall, I know I don't post as often as I should, yep, lotta distractions.

This is my 2c...your mileage may vary.

Like most of yall, I've tried several wicking materials over the course of my 3+ years of vaping. My favorite wicking material boils down to three...Cotton Bacon, KGD, and Rayon. Of the three it's a very close race.
The cotton bacon seems better for ware, but since it has to be removed to burn the coil...it gets replaced. Also, Rayon is pretty long lasting.

Since I use max VG and sweet juices, my coils are pretty much gunked up after every tank (Atlantis and Kanger Subtank Mini). So, I am forced to change my wick after each tank refill (approx 5ml...I have the 5ml tank for the Atlantis).

The flavor, IMHO, and this may not be a 'News Flash'...is relative to how thick/thin the wicking material is when it's fitted into the coil. I just recently found that, if when rolling the wick you roll the wick in only 'one' direction...it seems to work better vs rolling back and forth to compress it.


I rebuild the Atlantis with a horizontal coil. I drilled the wick holes to 5/32, haven't bought any new heads for them in quite some time now.
 

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oh kewl. Was always curious about an egg nog but never bought any, but with your recipe (if you'd be so kind as to share) and with yiddle trying to perfect one, I'll give it a shot.

I'm so spacy right now - I don't remember if I have posted this or not....

Horchata (CAP) 11%
TFA Jamaican Rum 6%
TFA Bavarian Cream 5%
TFA French Vanilla Deluxe 5%
TFA Cinnamon 5% - the spice, not red hot or danish
Sweetener 3-4%

Now, to adapt for Egg Nog (I believe my Egg Nog is CAP), this is a "guesstimation"

Egg Nog (I believe I have CAP) 7-8%
Kentucky or Vanilla Bourbon 5%
TFA Bavarian Cream 5%
TFA French Vanilla Deluxe 5% (I might sub the Catalan Cream here)
TFA Cinnamon 5% - the spice, not red hot or danish
Sweetener 3-4%

THIS IS UNTESTED - I'm just winging amounts based on the components and how I like them in my Rumchata recipe. Egg Nog is going to have a lot of Nutmeg in the background. I'm leaning on the Vanilla Bourbon - I like a LOT of vanilla, and because I'm going with the Catalan Cream, I want a little extra, since I think I'm going to lose compared to the French Vanilla Deluxe.
 

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Yeah Really. I been reading All Kinds of threads for the last.... well since about 11 last night, I'm about beat though. Just Huff'in on my Magma.

I was up several times last night. Don't know what the deal was. Slept about 3 hours. Tired boy today.

Crystal E Liquid made good on their promise to replace the mystery juice they sent last time. Got my 2 bottles of RY4 in the mailbox when I got home. :thumbs:

Derringer is vaping just fine now. Tugboat is easier to build on for me vs Derringer. They still have the colored ones on sale. Your Magma and other attys might be just as good though.

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If I were you, I'd try the clone from Fast Tech. They have the V2 with 2pc top cap and adjustable airflow.

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It will put out some clouds but flavor is real good for me too.
 

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From all I've heard and read, they are great for low Ω use, but I fall in the tootle-camp. the RBA, at my typical 1.7 - 1.8, is, to me, just "ok." The 0.5 OCC I really don't care for, the 1.2 OCC is marginal... Might do the RBA mod (drill bigger holes on the side of the cap), but want to continue other testing before taking irreversible action. Of course, with 8 KFs and numerous other toppers, that could take a while :rolleyes: And maybe a couple more tries to fine tune my OCC rebuild... Then again, like you, Mike, the very airy draw - important for high volume vaping - may be what's not "right" for me, as I really do like the way my KFs work... a reason to NOT drill out the cap.

I've never boiled my rayon - or even cotton when I was using that. (Never boiled my cigs, either :cry:) And haven't noticed any taste to it at all, but of course we all have different skill sets :lol: - and it could also be the flavors I lean to just cover it... Or is it possible that the taste you get is the absence of taste?

Rayon - and probably any new wick material - can take a few tries to get "right." Because it does need to be snug, it may not be the best choice for the softer coil materials, since they might deform when wicking, but I find it my preferred wick for kanthal.

Do you have the new base for your tank? The newest Subtank base has airflow from both sides but the smallest setting is two tiny tootle holes. Can't imagine a tighter draw than that.
 

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I am drinking water like crazy now that the weather is heating up. Add vaping to this heat and I feel dehydrated all the time. I buy 1 gal jugs of distilled water for 99 cents at the grocery and go through about 3/4 of a gallon per day just when I'm not at work. Drink bottled water at work too. I've been wondering if that's why my taste buds seem off lately.
 
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