Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three
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I didn't know that! Sheesh. Ok, tried it. The chimney fits into the stem. The base will just keep turning and turning, like there is just something keeping the threads from catching. But they catch just fine if I take the insulator off. And without the insulator it floods. Everything used to work just fine. Back to the drawing board. Thanks for the suggestion!
The coil housing is too tall on that coil. Likely a dual coil housing. Measure from the lip at the base of the stem to the flange that sticks out at the bottom of the coil chamber on ones that works vs one that does not.
That pretty much has to be the problem. Unless maybe just maybe you have a grommet/seal already stuck on the bottom of the chimney.
Ok, will give it a try! No extra on the bottom of the chimney, I'm trying these ideas on 6 different coils - 3 new ones and 3 rebuilt ones - just to be sure. I'll hunt down my calipers in the morning. Thanks, Robert.
I'm still trying to work with the WTA. It's just so expensive, but then I was spending hella more than that on cigarettes. I'll just keep plugging away.
Deb. 54 years of 3 PAD. No intention whatsoever of quitting. Hit the magic one first shot. Instant quit. So it's out there. Just gotta keep searching.
Good luck, kid.
Thanks, Gary. I did really well in the beginning. I almost don't know what I'm doing now.
It's not the ones you smoke, but the ones you DON'T that count!
I was lucky. I stopped immediately. That is VERY rare. There are some porchers on here that smoked for up to 3 years after starting to Vape.
My key seems to be that I never have less than 4 flavors available all day long. I get tired of one and vape another one.
also, keep some kind of mint handy that is 2x stronger than your normal vape and hit that when the smoking craving hits.
I do pretty well at work. It's when I'm not at work that I seem to have a huge problem.
I know, but I can't seem to get that through my thick skull. I want to give up the cigarettes. I NEED to give up the cigarettes.
Since it's virtual, this can be your rubber room
So, dual user for a year. That means, what? You're doing less harm than before. I imagine it has done some good, while admitting that exclusively vaping would be better. No argument there.
But for most of us, it's about harm REDUCTION. And you're doing that.
And besides, if you weren't on the path, you would have found us!
You're right. I guess I need to reach out more. I just hate asking people for help. I think for me it's more psychological for me. I think I'm actually afraid to walk around without a pack of cigarettes. It's almost like I panic if I know they're not there. Strange, but true.
Oh, there's plenty of flavors that I like. For a while I had equipment problems, but I got that sorted out. It's mostly stupid ... dumb ... fear of not having my crutch.
Your post almost made me cry. I've been badgered and hammered from a lot of sides about quitting smoking for years, and then I got hammered for vaping. It's nice to know I can rant somewhere without people judging me.
Oh, I'm not giving up. The only thing I want to give up is the smokes. I've come this far. I'm stubborn enough to keep on trying.
Thank you so much!! Thank you ALL so much!!!
Are you getting the chimney solidly back onto the head? Couple times I've spaced out, and not had it fully inserted, or tilted...
That's the spirit!
Nic level? When I started, at the recommendation of a good shop, I was at 18, and that wasn't right for me. Went to 24 and I took off.
As you say, BIG psychological factor! You say you're pretty much vaping at work, but have problems at home. Maybe put the smokes in some unusual place, some inconvenient place, and have lots of vape gear close at hand?
I think they were some nockoffs my wife found at a local B&M, unfortunately they got mixed in with the rest of them lol. I wonder if your atomizer is not threading quite all the way in? Mine turns approx 1.4 turns after it catches the threads, and although these pics probably arent helpful...
I turned the atty counter clockwise till I felt it drop into that first thread, then watched the pin turn almost 1.5 turns.
I took awhile to finally quit. I had to take the nicotine level up to 26 mg/ml, which got me closer. The only thing that worked for me was running out of cigarettes during a week with -30 windchill. Now I know that that won't work for you (unless you could try for during a hurricane) but if you could make it really inconvenient to get cigarettes?
I sometimes have played mental games with myself for smoking and for eating too much - maybe you make it a personal requirement that you can only buy one pack at a time, and not until you're down to only two left? Or make yourself only pay cash for cigarettes when you would usually use a card? As already mentioned, make it hard to get the cigarettes - keep them on top of the refrigerator, or in a closet, and then make it inconvenient to smoke them - outside, or only in one spot while standing up, or not in the car - just so its an effort to smoke, but easy to vape. It seems kind of hokey, but it might work.
And I'm still going to celebrate my vapeversary from when I started vaping, not when I finally completely quit smoking. Starting to vape was the important part, it was just a matter of time and details from there. I know there's at least one ECF regular who still smokes a couple a day - one when he gets up, one after meals, etc. - and is content at that level. It's all an improvement.
Roto;
Here's my 4 bits:
1. Let yourself off the hook about the smoking that you do. Do you ever smoke because you're annoyed with yourself for smoking? If you completely forgive yourself for smoking, it becomes less appealing to smoke because you won't be irritated about it when you do.
2. If you feel like it, picture yourself vaping, even with a cigarette going, and picture that you're getting everything and more from vaping than you get from a cigarette. Perception can and does become reality.
3. Run out of cigarettes completely at a place and time that you could easily buy more, and see if vaping can take the place of smoking while reminding yourself that you can go get more cigarettes if you need to. If you need to buy more smokes, just do it and try again some other time. (There is no way that I could have given up cigarettes while there was still even one cigarette within reach... I think it's the Scotch in me, double meaning intended.)
4. Pump up the wattage or voltage to where the vapor is thicker than smoke.
Here's my 4 bits:
1. Let yourself off the hook about the smoking that you do. Do you ever smoke because you're annoyed with yourself for smoking? If you completely forgive yourself for smoking, it becomes less appealing to smoke because you won't be irritated about it when you do.
2. If you feel like it, picture yourself vaping, even with a cigarette going, and picture that you're getting everything and more from vaping than you get from a cigarette. Perception can and does become reality.
3. Run out of cigarettes completely at a place and time that you could easily buy more, and see if vaping can take the place of smoking while reminding yourself that you can go get more cigarettes if you need to. If you need to buy more smokes, just do it and try again some other time. (There is no way that I could have given up cigarettes while there was still even one cigarette within reach... I think it's the Scotch in me, double meaning intended.)
4. Pump up the wattage or voltage to where the vapor is thicker than smoke.
Roto, such good suggestions from everyone, all I have to add is to hang in there! The ones you don't smoke are the ones that count. Don't beat yourself up, that will only make it worse. {{{hugs}}}
I understand the panic. Although my last cigarette was February 2011, I never actually quit. I couldn't quit and know that I could never have one again. Instead, I just decided to vape whenever I could and put off the next cigarette as long as I could.
I kept them around for months. And, if I wanted to, I knew I could have one. I would just have to step outside to smoke it. My hesitation to give in wasn't because it would mean I hadn't quit. It was because I knew I was a lazy creature of habit. I knew that I would fall back on whatever was easy and was habit. Between the fact that I couldn't smoke inside where I was living and that I made it as fun as possible, I kept myself distracted enough to develop the habit of vaping instead of smoking.
But, to this day, I still will allow myself a cigarette if I want one. I know me. And, I'll panic if I know that I can't do something, anything. So, although I haven't smoke in 4 1/2 years, I still haven't actually quit. It works for me.
We all understand. We've all been through it. We all were/are treated like we're not quite human, the one group it's alright to hate and abuse still. So, rant all you want!Rotowoman said:
Aww, Roto! We'll listen any time you need to rant. We've all been there. Carry your cigs with you if you need to, so you know they are there is you need them. But reach for the vape instead. Take a vape, & then if that doesn't work for you, have a cig. No biggie. But use the vape first. My cigs lay on top of the tv armore, just where I always put them. Right next to the door that I would go out to smoke. They stayed there for 6 months before I took them to my bedroom & tossed them on my desk. I had a cigarette a month during the first 3 months just because I was curious to see if they really tasted as bad as they smelled now. But not because I wanted one. I finally gave them to the neighbor kid who was nicing out, & pacing the sidewalk one day. The point is, they were there if I wanted one. And I know I needed them to be there. Just in case. I'm almost 14 months out now & am just now really believing that I actually quit smoking. That I made it. And, yes, I quit the first time I vaped. I started at 24 mg, worked my way down to 12, & had to go back up to 18. If I didn't have this I would immediately go back to smoking without blinking. That hand to mouth thing goes along with all of it. I never go anywhere without my pv, & a juice or extra tank, that I know will work for me however long I'm out.
Are you still getting grief from people about vaping? I can tell you exactly how many inches from their face to be when you tell them to shut up, & some good words to use while telling them exactly how to undertake & fully experience the full shutting up process. Of course shutting up for them is probably about as hard as quitting smoking is for us. [emoji1]
Or you could just bite them. [emoji12]
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Yup. I started with 24mg. Went to 18 and still there nearly 2 years later. Still have a pack in the drawer and the old "emergency pack' in da truck.
As I said, got lucky and the juice I started with *literally* tasted better than the smokes.
Had two smokes after I started. First one tasted horrible. A week or so later... second one still tasted horrible.
Now I still don't feel I quit. I just smoke juice instead. I had people coming over the house in the beginning just to be able to take a picture of me without a smoke in my mouth or hand. And they all walkied in the house with their jaws dragging on the ground.
Since I never wanted to quit, if I didn't stumble across that "special" juice, I'd still be smoking. The ONLY reason I gave it a shot was that my daughter didn't want me smoking with the grandson in the house.
As far as juice goes... I'm never without a cup of coffee in my hand. Most folks think I have one hand and one cup. BUT... I have yet to find a coffee flavor I like. Or can even tolerate. I'm guessing you still haven't hit that "magic" juice yet. If what you're using now is just "ok"... you haven't hit it yet.
Now the first one I fell in love with... discontinued.
Another one that was great... discontinued.
Branched out. Found a pina colada (why, is beyond me) at a local shop that was great. Discontinued. Tried a half dozen other pina colada's from all over the place. All sucked. So thing is, just because you think you would like something but don't... every manufacturer is different. So that sucks too.
As I said, got lucky and the juice I started with *literally* tasted better than the smokes.
Had two smokes after I started. First one tasted horrible. A week or so later... second one still tasted horrible.
Now I still don't feel I quit. I just smoke juice instead. I had people coming over the house in the beginning just to be able to take a picture of me without a smoke in my mouth or hand. And they all walkied in the house with their jaws dragging on the ground.
Since I never wanted to quit, if I didn't stumble across that "special" juice, I'd still be smoking. The ONLY reason I gave it a shot was that my daughter didn't want me smoking with the grandson in the house.
As far as juice goes... I'm never without a cup of coffee in my hand. Most folks think I have one hand and one cup. BUT... I have yet to find a coffee flavor I like. Or can even tolerate. I'm guessing you still haven't hit that "magic" juice yet. If what you're using now is just "ok"... you haven't hit it yet.
Now the first one I fell in love with... discontinued.
Another one that was great... discontinued.
Branched out. Found a pina colada (why, is beyond me) at a local shop that was great. Discontinued. Tried a half dozen other pina colada's from all over the place. All sucked. So thing is, just because you think you would like something but don't... every manufacturer is different. So that sucks too.
Roto a secret enemy that gets past many people is putting negatives on themselves. To be more exact doubting themselves , putting pressure on themselves , feeling inadequate in themselves.
Actually this enemy is very weak as its only power is trying to get the person to believe in it or start to acknowledge it.
As people have mentioned one way is to cancel negatives is with positives.
Actually this enemy is very weak as its only power is trying to get the person to believe in it or start to acknowledge it.
As people have mentioned one way is to cancel negatives is with positives.
Quite true, Wolf!
If you think you can't, you can't.
If you think you can, you can - with determination and time.
Well said by both of you and so very true. Most "successful" people got that way by hard work and determination. A setback along the way did not stray them from their goals. Quitting smoking is NOT easy, as we all well know, but with determination (and the help of friends) it can be done. You can and will, in YOUR own time. Don't sweat the small stuff, celebrate what you have accomplished so far.
Congratulations on 1 year!
Hey, we're truly happy with your advancements and judge you as a 'keeper'!
Hang in dere! Ya gots lotsa support...
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