Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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FlamingoTutu

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I just realized that this month makes one year that I have been vaping......for all the good it has done me. I still can't seem to put down the cigarettes for good. I'm truly not happy with myself right now. Something has to give. I have come a long way, but lately I'm just having a rough time of it. I almost didn't post this since I have nothing to brag about by vaping for a year and still not putting down the cigarettes completely. Maybe somebody just needs to lock me in a rubber room for 72 hours or so and let me rant.
Roto, congratulations on your first vaperversary! :party:I had a miserable time quitting smoking also and dual used for many months. I'm in the camp with those that had to bump to 24mg to finally put them down. That only lasted about a month before I had to drop down.

I'm reading through everybody else's experiences and saying bingo to almost all of them. I tortured myself with the, "This will be the last cigarette I ever smoke," or "I can never, ever have another cigarette again." Yeah right, that usually lasted less than 24 hours. vaping doesn't give you that instant nic rush that cigarettes do and looking back, that was probably the toughest thing for me to get over (besides myself).

You've gotten a lot of great advice. When it all comes together and you are ready, you'll dump the cigarettes. I also discovered that you don't instantly blowup if you try one from time to time. Done it twice in over two years and all it did was taste really awful. That seems to be more true for people who aren't constantly around other smokers. You've been with this for over a year now and I've got all my money on you to win. Hang in there!

:lol: @ Kenna for biting them.
 

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I just realized that this month makes one year that I have been vaping......for all the good it has done me. I still can't seem to put down the cigarettes for good. I'm truly not happy with myself right now. Something has to give. I have come a long way, but lately I'm just having a rough time of it. I almost didn't post this since I have nothing to brag about by vaping for a year and still not putting down the cigarettes completely. Maybe somebody just needs to lock me in a rubber room for 72 hours or so and let me rant.

Roto, congratulations on your one year vaping and for your continued efforts! So much good advice, and I hope you are ok with one more suggestion. I smoked for 46+ years and never thought I would ever be able to quit. (Didn't really even want to either)

I would panic if I got down to 1/2 pack. I always bought cartons to make sure they were always there for me. So I too made the transition by telling myself I was not quitting. In fact I really had no intention of quitting, I only started vaping to help me cut down.

When I was working I smoked very little - sometimes only 2-3 all day - then I would make up for that as soon as I got home. So once I retired - look out - I could smoke like a chimney all day and all night. So that is what pushed me into trying vaping - to cut down on the 30+ I was smoking every day.

Many of the things the others have suggested worked for me as well. I could only smoke outside (and that Nov it was really cold out) I kept the last 4 pkgs of cigarettes in the freezer and told myself I could have one any time I wanted. I started with a cig-a-like and it really was what I needed for the feel and mental image of me smoking. However, once I got my Spinners and Twist - three weeks after I started vaping - I gave up the last one a day that I had been holding onto.

Then 2 months after I quit I went with a smoking friend to Vegas. I continued to vape - but did breakdown and smoke - I think a pack over the 5 days. When I came home - I went back to vaping only - but the thought of smoking would occur from time to time. So I bought myself an eRoll and several tobacco flavors in higher nic level to just use in the eRoll.

Then anytime I had those thoughts of smoking - I would grab the eRoll and that really did work to get rid of those occasional ideas about smoking. I think for me - it was that it looked and felt more like a cigarette. Then by using a tobacco flavor (which I really don't care for in my other toppers) it was enough to trick "my" brain into thinking I had answered that cigarette desire.

It is now going on 3 years for me and while I still check once in awhile that the eRoll is charged, I have not had to use it in probably over a year. However, just like those remaining packs of cigarettes are still in the freezer, now the eRoll stays in my purse - just in case.

So - while this may not help - I sincerely hope you celebrate the what you have accomplished in the year of vaping and hope that some little tidbit from one of us will help you on your continued path.
 

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I was going to answer to everybody who posted encouraging me, but the support you guys have given and the suggestions are top notch!! Wow!! I feel encouraged by all the suggestions and encouragement. Here's the killing part. I really do prefer vaping over smoking. I'm tell you, you folks are the best!! I used to post in some other thread on this same subject. I forget what it is,but you guys have offered more support and more suggestions. I wish I could give each and every one of you a hug!!!
 

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Roto a secret enemy that gets past many people is putting negatives on themselves. To be more exact doubting themselves , putting pressure on themselves , feeling inadequate in themselves.

Actually this enemy is very weak as its only power is trying to get the person to believe in it or start to acknowledge it.
As people have mentioned one way is to cancel negatives is with positives.

Well said. I was skeptical about transitioning from smoking to vaping. But really felt I not only needed to but wanted to make the switch. I was 2+ PPD for years and years. One of my premises was 'no pressure' - don't pressure yourself to stop smoking and vape only. I was able to cut down to 1/2 pack of cigs and considered that a big win. Stayed there for quite some time and then got to just a few per day. Then one day it was like ... this is the day ... you can skip those 2 or 3 smokes and get by with vaping. Next month will be 4 years and I'm so thankful that vaping and my ECF Family came into my life.
 

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I just realized that this month makes one year that I have been vaping......for all the good it has done me. I still can't seem to put down the cigarettes for good. I'm truly not happy with myself right now. Something has to give. I have come a long way, but lately I'm just having a rough time of it. I almost didn't post this since I have nothing to brag about by vaping for a year and still not putting down the cigarettes completely. Maybe somebody just needs to lock me in a rubber room for 72 hours or so and let me rant.
Hi Roto, I congratulate you for what you have accomplished. It took me over two years to finally put the cigs down. I have been cig free for about 7 months and still think of having a cig. I find myself reaching for the pack I kept in my shirt pocket and having a momentary panic attack when they aren't there. Everyone else has offered excellent advice so I will not add anymore other than saying I'm proud of what you have accomplished. We are all here and will listen when you need to vent or just chat. Feel free to message me anytime.


If I can't find my calipers by tomorrow, I'm going to stop at the hardware store! This is driving me nuts. :oops: :)
The easiest way to find something is to buy a replacement!
 

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I spent all day fooling around with vapestuff. Got one of my nemmys reconfigured with
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With kick it is now the same height as my telescopic. Took the wrap off of it, and had to clean and buff it to get rid of the adhesive. Did a lot of recoiling, and cleaned out the positive posts on several Orchids. I think I had better do something more productive. :cool: Still planning my next FT order, but I don't know which course to take. Order another nemmy in a color to mix with my other two and retire the telescopic, or see if FT is going to introduce a kick adapter so I can kick my telescopic.
 

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I rewrote and expanded "my vaping story" and submitted it to the CASAA as a "testimonial". I spent several hours putting it together and editing it, so I don't even feel bad if you feel obligated to read the whole thing. Dang, it's long! Here it is:

I'm 64 and have been retired for 4 years, since my 60th birthday in 2011. I smoked 50 to 60 cigarettes per day for 44 years. I had accepted that smoking was going to kill me. I've been diagnosed with COPD since 2005.

I tried vaping for the first time in early February 2013 after my little brother mentioned it to me and inspired me to check into it. Prior to that I knew absolutely nothing about vaping; I had never even seen an e-cigarette.

My first vaping gear was a pair of fixed voltage 650 mah Ego batteries, 1.2 ml disposable 2.4 ohm clearos and store-bought 24 mg/ml nicotine e-liquid. I ordered everything online from a single source after learning as much as I could about vaping by searching the Internet intensely for a day or two.

My initial vaping effort was short-lived and I went back to smoking in less than 24 hours. For the next two weeks, I contemplated the differences between smoking and vaping as I continued to smoke. I realized that there were things I could do to improve my vaping experience; things such as drawing more slowly, pressing the fire button a moment before I started drawing, releasing the power button before I'd completed my draw, and exhaling through my nose.

I tried vaping again on Feb 16 2013, and I have not smoked even one cigarette since then. I did not put a lot of pressure on myself to switch entirely to vaping. No one is more surprised than me that I have never had another cigarette. After about a month of vaping, I wasn't positive that I had kicked the habit but I was pretty sure.

My health, especially my lung function, has improved dramatically. My doctor is thrilled that I quit smoking.

For 5 weeks in 1988 I had stopped smoking using Nicorette nicotine gum. I was broody, moody and pretty agitated during that time and it was therefore quite a mental relief to resume smoking. Other than that, the only times since 1969 that I did not smoke were during two three-day hospital stays. One of those was for a smoking-related spontaneous right lung collapse in 2011. I resumed smoking as soon as I was discharged.

I've had the same primary care doctor for 27 years. He had become accustomed to me saying "when I'm dead" when he would ask "when are you going to quit smoking?"

Although COPD is a forever diagnosis, I no longer use Symbicort (or any other medication) for it, and it is SO much easier to breathe. My energy level has improved quite a bit too.

Within a few weeks I discovered the e-cigarette forum. I bought a couple of variable voltage Spinners and starting mixing my own e-liquid.

I continued at 22 to 24 mg/ml nicotine level for a year and half. Within 6 months of starting I was using larger capacity bottom coil clearos and variable voltage mods that used 18650 batteries.

Currently I use a variety of mods and the largest Aspire Nautilus and Kanger Subtank clearos. I build my own coils and use a variety of variable power box mods. I've been experimenting with various temperature control mods and temperature control coil wires but still (at the moment) tend to prefer a 0.3 to 1.0 ohm single Kanthal wire coil in the RBA head of my Kanger Subtank Plus. I use a CoilMaster to make 3.0 mm diameter coils and I use KGD or Muji cotton wicks. I had given up on coil building until I got the CoilMaster, at which point coil building became easy.

Even at low ohms, I am happy using just 10 to 14 watts of power except with temperature control mods and coils, with which I use 25 to 60 watts.

The idea of temperature control really appeals to me. I think it's the future of vaping, but I haven't yet found the right setup to make it as good a vape as I get with variable wattage and Kanthal coils.

I now mix my juice at 18 mg/ml nicotine level and feel no urgency whatsoever to reduce my nicotine level. Neither my doctor nor me feels that nicotine is in any way harmful to me. In my opinion, the fact that I started with 24 mg and now use 18 mg reflects greater vapor production from more sophisticated gear rather than an actual reduction in my nicotine intake. I average 5.0 ml per day of e-liquid consumption.

Four months ago my 50 year old next door neighbor quit his one pack per day smoking habit with gear that I gave to him eight months ago. Now, he neither smokes nor vapes. He feels like he has a new lease on life and he's excited about putting in new carpets and drapes now that he lives in a smoke-free house. The increase in his stamina and energy is obvious both to him and to everyone who knows him.

A geographically distant 55 year old friend in search of vaping knowledge contacted me through Facebook about 2 years ago. She has now been smoke free for over a year and a half, giving up a 35 year 2 pack per day habit thanks to vaping.


Through online groups, primarily the "e-cigarette forum", I've run into thousands of people who were able to successfully quit smoking by vaping. I sacrificed nothing when I replaced smoking with vaping. Rather, I found something better than smoking.
 

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Next month will be 4 years and I'm so thankful that vaping and my ECF Family came into my life.

Thanks for this Mike. I too am truly thankful for the ECF Family. I was so blessed to find this community!!


Hi Roto, I congratulate you for what you have accomplished. It took me over two years to finally put the cigs down. I have been cig free for about 7 months and still think of having a cig. I find myself reaching for the pack I kept in my shirt pocket and having a momentary panic attack when they aren't there. Everyone else has offered excellent advice so I will not add anymore other than saying I'm proud of what you have accomplished. We are all here and will listen when you need to vent or just chat. Feel free to message me anytime.
The easiest way to find something is to buy a replacement!

Thank you SO much! I have no words to express the gratitude I feel for all the support I have received about this issue I'm having. It just makes me more determined to keep on moving forward!! I know what I need to do and will be incorporating a lot of these suggestions I've received. I feel happy about this!!
 

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I haven't been able to get online all day, so catching up. Love the continued support for Roto, we love ya gal and I know I can speak for everyone when I say lay it on us! We will help any way we can!

bells, nice testimony.

hum, perhaps I can get to the hangout tonight. Still have work to do. Busy show, but good show! $$$
 

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I was seduced by the vaping side an did not even want to quit smoking. I mean why give up on a 40 year investment?
I did not expect it to work immediately like it did. I bought the cigalike first & it was less than impressive. I saw my sister's ego set up & that was the first inkling I had that cigalikes were not all there was to it. So I checked online & got an ego set up, mainly out of curiosity. I thought it might help me cut back, or maybe smoke less because my sister was still smoking & just vaping at times she couldn't smoke. I was completely flabbergasted when I simply didn't want a cigarette at all after I vaped. So I just kept reaching for the ego everytime I wanted to smoke & that was it for me. I'm still shocked at how it snuck up on me after all those years of chain smoking at the mere thought of quitting.
 

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Well, I found the calipers, hubby had borrowed them :eek: I don't know why when he can't see to read them.... anyway, all 26 coils are the same! So I'm still confused, but I will keep on investigating. Sooner or later that little light bulb will go off. And we all know that it will turn out to be something either simple or silly. Thanks for all your suggestions and support, hugs! :wub:
 

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I was going to answer to everybody who posted encouraging me, but the support you guys have given and the suggestions are top notch!! Wow!! I feel encouraged by all the suggestions and encouragement. Here's the killing part. I really do prefer vaping over smoking. I'm tell you, you folks are the best!! I used to post in some other thread on this same subject. I forget what it is,but you guys have offered more support and more suggestions. I wish I could give each and every one of you a hug!!!

Roto - I'm so glad to see you back around :)

I'm also glad you reached out. I don't have any great words of wisdom, but I do have big shoulders :)

You've cut back, right? That's a PLUS! Each of us is different in how we tick. My "aha" moment was when I finally decided I'd spent enough on vapey things to stop spending the money on smokes. I had (and have) a mod nearby virtually at all times. Even though it's not "smoking" now, it's still a habit - I've just chosen to replace the habit with something less destructive....
 

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Well, I found the calipers, hubby had borrowed them :eek: I don't know why when he can't see to read them.... anyway, all 26 coils are the same! So I'm still confused, but I will keep on investigating. Sooner or later that little light bulb will go off. And we all know that it will turn out to be something either simple or silly. Thanks for all your suggestions and support, hugs! :wub:

Any chance you can post some pics? What fits, what doesn't?
 

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I rewrote and expanded "my vaping story" and submitted it to the CASAA as a "testimonial". I spent several hours putting it together and editing it, so I don't even feel bad if you feel obligated to read the whole thing. Dang, it's long! Here it is:

I'm 64 and have been retired for 4 years, since my 60th birthday in 2011. I smoked 50 to 60 cigarettes per day for 44 years. I had accepted that smoking was going to kill me. I've been diagnosed with COPD since 2005.

I tried vaping for the first time in early February 2013 after my little brother mentioned it to me and inspired me to check into it. Prior to that I knew absolutely nothing about vaping; I had never even seen an e-cigarette.

My first vaping gear was a pair of fixed voltage 650 mah Ego batteries, 1.2 ml disposable 2.4 ohm clearos and store-bought 24 mg/ml nicotine e-liquid. I ordered everything online from a single source after learning as much as I could about vaping by searching the Internet intensely for a day or two.

My initial vaping effort was short-lived and I went back to smoking in less than 24 hours. For the next two weeks, I contemplated the differences between smoking and vaping as I continued to smoke. I realized that there were things I could do to improve my vaping experience; things such as drawing more slowly, pressing the fire button a moment before I started drawing, releasing the power button before I'd completed my draw, and exhaling through my nose.

I tried vaping again on Feb 16 2013, and I have not smoked even one cigarette since then. I did not put a lot of pressure on myself to switch entirely to vaping. No one is more surprised than me that I have never had another cigarette. After about a month of vaping, I wasn't positive that I had kicked the habit but I was pretty sure.

My health, especially my lung function, has improved dramatically. My doctor is thrilled that I quit smoking.

For 5 weeks in 1988 I had stopped smoking using Nicorette nicotine gum. I was broody, moody and pretty agitated during that time and it was therefore quite a mental relief to resume smoking. Other than that, the only times since 1969 that I did not smoke were during two three-day hospital stays. One of those was for a smoking-related spontaneous right lung collapse in 2011. I resumed smoking as soon as I was discharged.

I've had the same primary care doctor for 27 years. He had become accustomed to me saying "when I'm dead" when he would ask "when are you going to quit smoking?"

Although COPD is a forever diagnosis, I no longer use Symbicort (or any other medication) for it, and it is SO much easier to breathe. My energy level has improved quite a bit too.

Within a few weeks I discovered the e-cigarette forum. I bought a couple of variable voltage Spinners and starting mixing my own e-liquid.

I continued at 22 to 24 mg/ml nicotine level for a year and half. Within 6 months of starting I was using larger capacity bottom coil clearos and variable voltage mods that used 18650 batteries.

Currently I use a variety of mods and the largest Aspire Nautilus and Kanger Subtank clearos. I build my own coils and use a variety of variable power box mods. I've been experimenting with various temperature control mods and temperature control coil wires but still (at the moment) tend to prefer a 0.3 to 1.0 ohm single Kanthal wire coil in the RBA head of my Kanger Subtank Plus. I use a CoilMaster to make 3.0 mm diameter coils and I use KGD or Muji cotton wicks. I had given up on coil building until I got the CoilMaster, at which point coil building became easy.

Even at low ohms, I am happy using just 10 to 14 watts of power except with temperature control mods and coils, with which I use 25 to 60 watts.

The idea of temperature control really appeals to me. I think it's the future of vaping, but I haven't yet found the right setup to make it as good a vape as I get with variable wattage and Kanthal coils.

I now mix my juice at 18 mg/ml nicotine level and feel no urgency whatsoever to reduce my nicotine level. Neither my doctor nor me feels that nicotine is in any way harmful to me. In my opinion, the fact that I started with 24 mg and now use 18 mg reflects greater vapor production from more sophisticated gear rather than an actual reduction in my nicotine intake. I average 5.0 ml per day of e-liquid consumption.

Four months ago my 50 year old next door neighbor quit his one pack per day smoking habit with gear that I gave to him eight months ago. Now, he neither smokes nor vapes. He feels like he has a new lease on life and he's excited about putting in new carpets and drapes now that he lives in a smoke-free house. The increase in his stamina and energy is obvious both to him and to everyone who knows him.

A geographically distant 55 year old friend in search of vaping knowledge contacted me through Facebook about 2 years ago. She has now been smoke free for over a year and a half, giving up a 35 year 2 pack per day habit thanks to vaping.


Through online groups, primarily the "e-cigarette forum", I've run into thousands of people who were able to successfully quit smoking by vaping. I sacrificed nothing when I replaced smoking with vaping. Rather, I found something better than smoking.

Well written bells ... good job. :toast:
 

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Do you happen to have a set of calipers in there too? If so, @misswish2 needs to borrow them. :)
Bells, your testimony was excellent, and, as usual, well-written. :cool:

I think my wraps were somehow causing a voltage drop. Nemmys are both working much better. I used toothpaste and a green scrubby to remove the adhesive from Num-Num. Binky has the low-profile hybrid top-cap.
 
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