OSDIY - flavors, % used and everything else

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I have no experience with there being a big difference in a recipe...made for/by someone who does MTL vs. DTL, no nic vs. with nic, low wattage vs. high wattage, nor with various gear and builds. Another ECF member and I commonly use nearly the identical % of flavorings in eliquid recipes that we both make. He makes his DIY at 80VG/20PG @ 3mg and I make mine 60VG/40PG @ 7mg. However, he vapes the exact opposite as I do in every way. He vapes only DTL, at very high watts, and with fancy coils he builds at like 0.2ohms and lower. His gear includes things like a Hammer of God beast size mod and mods he builds himself, with the Voltrove (IIRC 20-24mL capacity) and similar others.

I make eliquids for a couple friends and a relative, who also have differences in how they vape, the gear they use, their nic mg, PG/VG ratios, etc., compared to me. They all like the same recipe made for them, flavoring-wise, as I make it for myself...with only the adjustments made for their different nic mg and PG/VG ratios.

It's just a new-to-me idea...that "what works for you would never work for me, and I assume vice versa." Not saying it's not true in your case though. Just something I'd never heard before.

I have been vaping for 8 years now and hit a place where I was wanted something different from the way I have been vaping. Hence the lower ohms, more air, etc. First of all I hate labels, but for the purpose of explaining I will try to stay within whatever defines a mtl or dl vaper. It is generally excepted that any ohm 1.0 and above is considered mtl and any coil with ohms lower that 1.0 is dtl. Me, I seem to be all over the place because the flavor is what I am really wanting and sometimes to find it I have to try out all sorts of different set ups.

On some of my mixes, I don't have to do anything to the juice, I get good flavor etc on whatever tank/coil set up. One some of my others, the higher I go up in power the flavor starts to disappear and I think the heat has something to do with that. So I am left with a choice of either putting the flavor in a known mtl tank and continue to enjoy until that mix is finished or try adding more flavoring which may or may not work. It makes more sense to wait until I need to mix more to wait to adjust any taste solutions to lower ohms, higher wattage. As I mentioned before, I am finding the cream, dessert types of flavors are more of the ones in question. I do not do many creamy type of mixes but I do love my coconut cheesecake mix but atm can only taste in a coil at .6 ohms @10watts. Any higher wattage and the flavor disappears.

So having said all of that, I think there are always exceptions to the one size fits all theory, even tho it does appear for fruit flavors to be true, at least for my taste buds. I can taste in any ohm coil all of the one stop mixes I get from Kimberely, and all of my standalone 1 or 2 flavor mixes without any adjustments at all.

Just my 2 pennies.

 

[Spydro]

My OSDIY order was accepted by them soon after 8 AM 8/22 ... was shipped two hours later.. is due here around noon tomorrow (8/23).

It's a safe bet that even here in the Capitol of Sin OSDIY's kind of CS would be pretty hard to top by any other source.

.

 

[Spydro]

After a minor tweak I'm liking the new Cajeta Mesquite Coffee I came up with (but then coffee is both my favorite beverage to drink and to vape). Ir's strong. smoky, earthy (but not sweet as I mixed it), so probably not for everyone though.

I don't post my recipes because IMO you have to find your own for your best vape, and I mix for strong flavor that most folks wouldn't like anyway. All it takes your is PG/VG base of choice and a blend of three flavor ingredients to make it. Less is more with strong flavors, so walk lightly at first with low percentages and adjust each ingredient up or down to your personal taste. 4%-8% total flavor by volume is probably going to be more than enough flavor for most folks (so a starting point might be 2%-3% of each for some of you). The Mesquite and TFA Pecan are quite strong, the Cajeta helps tame them a little. It works fine for me S&V (IOW, after it's been on my magnetic stir plate for a couple of hours). (Cajeta is the Mexican term for what is called Dulce de Leche in other countries, is made from goats milk, has caramel and sweet notes. I'm not into sweet vapes much, so I use way less of it as the other two).

-I harvest and process wild bean pods off Honey and Screw-bean mesquite trees that grow wild here on the Mojave Desert to make my own mesquite coffee and tea extract from. It's a "task" with some time elements to deal with, similar to processing and roasting raw coffee beans. But it's unique flavor has been worth the extra efforts for me when I could get out and do them during the short window of harvest time to be able to drink/vape mesquite coffee (beans) or tea (from pods) off and on for many years. There are sites on-line where you can learn how/approx when to harvest/process mesquite beans and pods.
-I have no idea if the so called 'mesquite smoke powders' sold for seasoning meat/food could be extracted and safely used for vaping (I don't use them/don't know what the ingredients are in them).
-A guess is that TFA Mexican Coffee flavoring might be a possible substitute for Mesquite, It's strong and earthy, but not the same wonderful profile as my mesquite extract. But it might be an easier solution, especially for those who don't live where wild mesquite trees grow naturally, nor want to do the work to harvest/process them.

 

[CaveFurby]

Having a big bottle of Lucky Shot, and having read this thread I went ahead and ordered Lotta Latte, gonna mix it up 10% each like you folks do, sounds like it will be really delicious.

 

[JCinFLA]

Having a big bottle of Lucky Shot, and having read this thread I went ahead and ordered Lotta Latte, gonna mix it up 10% each like you folks do,

You might want to try a lower % of each to start with, and work your way up if necessary. I know Kimberly uses 10% of each, when she makes her eliquid @ 24mg nic and then vapes it at very low volts. She told me that for people who subohm...she recommends just 5% of each.

In making the combo for myself and 2 other people (none of us subohm) - I make mine @ 7mg nic and use 7% LS + 6% LL. Another person has me make hers @12mg nic and use 8% of each flavoring. A third one has me make hers @ 15mg with 8% LS + 9% LL because she likes more of the LL taste. I really think the nic mg has some effect on the % of each flavoring we each like...to get the taste we prefer.

I used to make mine with 8% of each, but it gunked up my coils much faster than after lowering each one a little. The flavor is still there plenty strong, too, at the lower 7% + 6%. Besides slower coil gunking, it makes my flavorings last a little longer, too.

 

[CaveFurby]

Thank you JC, I will start out at 7% each and see how it goes. Being an old guy my tasters don't taste as well as younger folks I think, I seem to need flavors a little stronger than the norm to satisfy me.

 

[Spydro]

Last order received from OSDIY included...

OSB Lucky Shot
OSB Lotta Latte
I finally found a mix of these two together that works for me (thanks @JCinFLA), so bought the larger bottles of them. I am also going to go back and try each of them stand alone like I normally do with new to me flavors before I use them in a recipe to get a better handle on them. I've also guesstimated a couple of other simple recipes for them to try out, two flavor combos I saw mentioned here somewhere... Lucky Shot w/Lime and Lotta Latte w/Pistachio. I have used both lime and pistachio individually as the dominate flavor in some of my DIY recipes before, so well know they work for me.

OSF Baked Cinnamon Roll
LO CCI
These will be a huge stretch for my tastes, so they may not work our at all for me. But I'm going to try a low percentage of BCR with a VERY SMALL percentage of CCI and see if the 'dessert' sweetness can be tolerated. (I'm not concerned about the Cinnamon, I like spicy vapes).

CF Green Lush
I don't think this one is going to work at all for me. I was thinking it was more about the lime profile than the very sweet green punch it tastes like to me. It's hard to fathom this one is recommended at 20% in recipes by CF.

RF Shamrock Shake
Will have to find my 'level' for this one again as I lost my recipes for it, and figure out which two of several possible additives I had in it to knock the sweet down and boost the ice cold. But it was a winner for a change up vape before, so should be again when I prove it out.

I only have three speeds now days unfortunately (slow, slower and mostly stop), so it will take awhile to get around to starting the process with these.

 

[Foggy Road]

I finally placed another order with osdiy. Probably been about 18 months or so.
A lot of time wasted trying recipes that never come close what everyone else seems to find in them. Even broke down and paid for a couple recipes that weren't worth the wasted data to download them.

Going back to my trusted Osdiy blends. Well actually I'm giving some new ones a try. All 10ml samples. Should deliver today but I've got to get back on the road this morning. No big deal, I just mixed 3 120ml batches @ 36mg 50/50 for use in my Aspire ET-BDC clearos with BVC coils. That 360ml will probably last a couple months.
My order, all new to me:

Arnold Palmer
Licorice Torpedos
Succulent Strawberry
Blackberry
Blueberry

I'm fairly certain Arnold Palmer will work for me. The others are just a shot in the dark.

 

[JCinFLA]

OSB Lucky Shot
OSB Lotta Latte
I finally found a mix of these two together that works for me (thanks @JCinFLA), so bought the larger bottles of them.

You're welcome. I'm glad you found the right mix for your tastes.

I've also guesstimated a couple of other simple recipes for them to try out, two flavor combos I saw mentioned here somewhere... Lucky Shot w/Lime and Lotta Latte w/Pistachio.

I've posted Kimberly's suggested recipe of Lucky Shot @ 10% + TFA Key Lime @ 5%...maybe that's one you've seen. For my tastes those % worked, but like all recipes "tweaking" for individual likes may be necessary.

OSF Baked Cinnamon Roll
LO CCI
These will be a huge stretch for my tastes, so they may not work our at all for me. But I'm going to try a low percentage of BCR with a VERY SMALL percentage of CCI and see if the 'dessert' sweetness can be tolerated. (I'm not concerned about the Cinnamon, I like spicy vapes).

Looks to me like you've got the right idea above, if you want to use the CCI at all with the BCR. However, you may prefer the BCR just by itself if you're not a fan of sweetness.

 

[JCinFLA]

Arnold Palmer
Licorice Torpedos
Succulent Strawberry
Blackberry
Blueberry

I'm fairly certain Arnold Palmer will work for me. The others are just a shot in the dark.

If you like Good & Plenty candies...IMO, the Licorice Torpedoes is "spot on" the taste of the candy. I get the candy coating taste on inhale and the licorice center taste on the exhale, just like OSDIY says in their description of it.

The Succulent Strawberry turned out to be a big surprise for me. I made it at 10% and loved it as a S&V that first day, when I vaped 3 tanks of it because it was so good. I put it away then for several days, knowing it was "a winner" for me, and thinking I'd make a bigger bottle fairly soon. When I vaped some of it about 4 days later...it was much stronger to me and was actually irritating to the insides of my lips and to my tongue. I cut it with some plain VG/PG mix and tried it again = was still a little irritating. Diluted it some more and it was fine then. Estimated final flavoring % was then about 3% after diluting it twice. I now just make it @ 3% from the get-go, and it's great for me.

So, you may want to start at lower than the recommended 10% and go up if needed...after letting it sit for several days. Others have also mentioned that they thought it got quite a bit stronger after a few days, too.

 

[Foggy Road]

Thank you very much JC. I do value your advice. Now you've got me excited about both the Torpedos and strawberry juices. Just got out for delivery notice but I'll be gone by then.
Also have a 5ml Dvarw V2 MTL RTA clone on the slow boat. Haven't really done any buying for quite some time. I'll have plenty of fun to look forward to next time home.

 

[Spydro]

@JCinFLA

I've posted Kimberly's suggested recipe of Lucky Shot @ 10% + TFA Key Lime @ 5%...maybe that's one you've seen. For my tastes those % worked, but like all recipes "tweaking" for individual likes may be necessary.

Might be where I saw it, but I didn't have a percentage ratio written in my original notes if it was. However I already had 10% + 5% penciled in for a first try IAMA I am a fan of Key Lime both as a dominate or complimentary flavor in recipes. It also wouldn't surprise me if I added even more KL, or reduced the LS depending on how strong the flavor actually is in the gear I intend to try it in with this ratio. Since the OSB's are sweeter to my palate than the lime the second is probably more likely (I might even end up with KL being the dominate flavor).

Looks to me like you've got the right idea above, if you want to use the CCI at all with the BCR. However, you may prefer the BCR just by itself if you're not a fan of sweetness.

I planned to try the BCR stand alone first (my norm for new to me flavors). I'll do a 10ml or 15ml test batch first probably. After I try it out S&V I had intended to add no more than a drop of the CCI if added at all as it is supposedly very concentrated... IOW, very sweet (it's a sealed bottle that I didn't open to taste it).

 

[JCinFLA]

I just talked with Kimberly about some CAP flavorings that she doesn't carry and/or is out of, but can order for me. During the conversation we also talked about their new 9th Anniversary Sale. She said even though it's for the whole month of September...we could start ordering early now and still get the deal.

She also said they had a vendor swoop in and order all the 30mL and 120mL sizes of their Blue Raspberry Slush that they had on their website this morning. They did have (6) more 30mL bottles left that weren't listed, so she listed them, but that's all for now. However...they've already placed 2 orders for more, to come in spaced apart, so they will have enough back in stock to hopefully last the month.

OSDIY 9th Anniversary Sale
20% off most things*
The whole month of September
Use regular codes ECF or JFK

*Chef's Flavors aren't included because they
cannot sell them for less than a specific price.

​

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I just talked with Kimberly about some CAP flavorings that she doesn't carry, but can order for me. During the conversation we also talked about their new 9th Anniversary Sale. She said even though it's for the whole month of September...we could start ordering early now and still get the deal.

She also said they had a vendor swoop in and order all the 30mL and 120mL sizes of their Blue Raspberry Slush that they had on their website this morning. They did have (6) more 30mL bottles left that weren't listed, so she listed them, but that's all for now. However...they've already placed 2 orders for more, to come in spaced apart, so they will have enough back in stock to hopefully last the month.

OSDIY 9th Anniversary Sale
20% off most things*
The whole month of September
Use regular codes ECF or JFK

*Chef's Flavors are not included
since they have to pay CF a specific price for them.

​

Is Kim ordering enough new Cap flavors to place on the website or just for you personally?

 

[JCinFLA]

Is Kim ordering enough new Cap flavors to place on the website or just for you personally?

I'm having her get CAP Churro and CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl V2 in the 120mL bottles for me. She said she'd get a few extras of the Churro to see how they go, but she didn't say what size(s) of it. The Cinnamon Danish Swirl V2 she said she needed to order more of anyway, so will have extra of it, but again...I don't know what sizes she'll get of it either.

 

[Foggy Road]

I just talked with Kimberly about some CAP flavorings that she doesn't carry, but can order for me. During the conversation we also talked about their new 9th Anniversary Sale. She said even though it's for the whole month of September...we could start ordering early now and still get the deal.

She also said they had a vendor swoop in and order all the 30mL and 120mL sizes of their Blue Raspberry Slush that they had on their website this morning. They did have (6) more 30mL bottles left that weren't listed, so she listed them, but that's all for now. However...they've already placed 2 orders for more, to come in spaced apart, so they will have enough back in stock to hopefully last the month.

OSDIY 9th Anniversary Sale
20% off most things*
The whole month of September
Use regular codes ECF or JFK

*Chef's Flavors are not included
since they have to pay CF a specific price for them.

​

Ya know, reading how folks were raving about blue razz slush is what first sent me to Osdiy. I was glad I ordered other flavors cuz the BRS had nothing but slush for my buds. I think my buds are seriously 'disabled' or something.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I'm having her get CAP Churro and CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl V2 in the 120mL bottles for me. She said she'd get a few extras of the Churro to see how they go, but she didn't say what size(s) of it. The Cinnamon Danish Swirl V2 she said she needed to order more of anyway, so will have extra of it.

Thanks JC.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Ya know, reading how folks were raving about blue razz slush is what first sent me to Osdiy. I was glad I ordered other flavors cuz the BRS had nothing but slush for my buds. I think my buds are seriously 'disabled' or something.

That is such a shame as it is 1 of my favs....vape it everyday and really enjoy it.

 

[Foggy Road]

That is such a shame as it is 1 of my favs....vape it everyday and really enjoy it.

Makes me wanna cry!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Sorry.....this probably isn't the thread to mention this in, but I have heard that Liquid Barn has a really good bb raz flavor.....I have not tried it, but maybe you could taste that one? Dunno, just a thought.