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Can anyone confirm that I got the correct batteries for this? They are the button top variety.

Here are two IMR batteries. The one on the left came with an earlier model Ovale v8 purchased from an individual in the ECF Classifieds. The one on the right is what is referred to on DV's site as "button top." I believe the AWs button tops will have a top like the one on the left. While the one on the right works okay in the Ovale V8, it is more difficult, but not bad to remove.

As far as the build on the Ovale V8, I think it is okay. I haven't dropped either of mine onto concrete or anything like that, but have dropped one from desktop height onto an unpadded floor mat. There's no door problem that I know of as like that on the Gripper. The earlier Ovale V8 I have was sanded flat a bit on the bottom by the previous owner. I actually sanded it a slight bit more.
 

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I just joined the v8 club as well. I didn't realize it needed 2x18350's I thought it needed one 18650. I actually thought this was the same as the smok gripper.:facepalm:
Anyhow, I have the ovale v8 coming from Discount Vapers and the 2 18350's on the way from Carolina Vapes. I really wish that I ordered the Arizona Vapor Trails kit. That would have been a way better deal! I just really hope it will be more discreet then my Provari or Zmax. I need something I can vape in class and at work.
 

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BTW anyone out there they may want to buy this deal, on the site it says they only have 3 left!
A much better deal from Arizona Vapor Trails. It came with 2 Qvale V8 Mods, 2 18350 batteries, charger and 510 to ego adapter. Total cost me 32.14 shipped and received it in 2 days.
 

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Here are two IMR Batteries. The one on the left came with an earlier model Ovale V8 purchased from an individual in the ECF Classifieds. The one on the right is what is referred to on DV's site as "button top." I believe the AWs button tops will have a top like the one on the left. While the one on the right works okay in the Ovale V8, it is more difficult, but not bad to remove.
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These are the ones that I ordered from RTD. 18350 imr, 700 mah, button tops.

I saw an image of the positive battery connector in the V8. It seemed like I saw some plastic posts on either side of where the button would fit into.
 

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These are the ones that I ordered from RTD. 18350 imr, 700 mah, button tops.

I saw an image of the positive battery connector in the V8. It seemed like I saw some plastic posts on either side of where the button would fit into.

That looks to have the same type of top connector as the eFests I received. Yes, there are slots, but the edge in the direction they need to be pulled when removing is bounded. It seems they catch just a little bit on that where the other type tops slipped out easily. It's not a big deal...just a detail. DV also has AWs it appears. They look a little different than what we are seeing.
 

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These are the ones that I ordered from RTD. 18350 imr, 700 mah, button tops.

I saw an image of the positive battery connector in the V8. It seemed like I saw some plastic posts on either side of where the button would fit into.

I also use those AW 18350s in my Ovale V8 and they fit nicely and work great.

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Since we're thank about batteries I have a question. Can these use flat-top batteries?

Flat tops don't work in mine. The connection in the V8 is slightly indented so that only a nipple top can make a good connection in there. But of course, I have the first version V8. The newer versions might be different.
 

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As I understand there are three types of battery connectors.

- Flat Top - Flush flat top
- Button Top - Half was between a flat top and a conventional battery post. They feature a somewhat raised metal top about the size of a button. The metal tops are higher than flat tops and have sloping edges.
- Convention connectors - Smaller connectors than the Button Tops - may protrude a little farther than button tops. Some call them 'nipples.'
 

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Is it certain there is no ohm checker on the one from Arizona? I read you can put the + and - at the same time and it should show the ohms. I really want another "gripper" style APV, but have hesitated because I wasn't sure I wanted to commit to something that required 2 batteries, and also I really want the ohm checker. Of course, they may sell out before I get a shot at it...but I just thought I'd try (limited budget, fixed income). I was going to get another VV Gripper first of next month (I do like the one I have) but after reading about the buttons falling inside, and knowing about the battery door and connector...I'm worried.

Also...what is the body made out of? Is it plastic? Or is it metal with some sort of coating?
 

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Since we're thank about batteries I have a question. Can these use flat-top batteries?

Short answer: no.

On the original V8 the positive battery connections are slightly recessed into the body, enough that a flat top battery won't make a connection. And unless Ovale redesigned the body shell innards and the battery connectors on the new "ohms capable" model that won't change with the new version either. (Changing the internal PCB and adding electronic features is easy. Redesigning the body and creating new injection molds is costly.)

The biggest issue with the V8 and picking batteries is the battery length. Anything even 1 mm longer than the original batteries that come with it will create difficulties getting the things in there without collapsing/bending the negative contact springs. I ordered some protected 16340 cells. In theory, those should have been shorter than the original V8 16350's - they aren't. Have to use extreme care to insert those batteries or I will bend the negative connection springs right over.
 

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Fourthrok, my Ovale V8 is a shiny black plastic, much like my LG cell phone. I think the rubberized one is rubber coated plastic, but I'm not certain.

Thanks YoureFired. That's one clue. I'm going to go look around Google and YouTube and see what I can find out. The ohm checker is kinda important to me. Thing is...I'm happy with the VV Gripper. Very. Love the way it hits, how it feels, the look. BUT...I'm scared it won't hold up. And I really really want something that will hold up (at least with care..I have an "indestructible" mechanical, but it's heavy and tubular and I'm a bit bored with tubes) AND have replaceable batteries and be in the $40 or less (if possible) price range. Arrgh! Should I, or shouldn't I? The price is killer and at least I wouldn't have to add the expense of getting two new 18350 batteries. One of the reasons I was going to go for another Gripper was I already have a plethora of 18650s. I have a bunch of 18350s too..but they are all different brands and ages and so can't be mixed for use with the Ovale V8.

Sometimes all this stuff just gets soooo complicated!
 

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A much better deal from Arizona Vapor Trails. It came with 2 Qvale V8 Mods, 2 18350 batteries, charger and 510 to ego adapter. Total cost me 32.14 shipped and received it in 2 days.

U sure about that? I just ordered and it came to $35.14. They only have one shipping option: USPS flat rate at $5.15
 

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I ended up ordering one, too. Used the new customer coupon and it came to $32.14. I finally came to the conclusion that while it probably doesn't have an ohm checker, for the price of the batteries and charger and a unit that has PVM (like the Gripper), it's still a great deal. The $32.14 includes the Priority shipping. Got my confirmation, so hopefully all is well. No idea if I'll end up with 2 V8 units, but still...a good deal.

I see there is just one left now.
 

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I ended up ordering one, too. Used the new customer coupon and it came to $32.14. I finally came to the conclusion that while it probably doesn't have an ohm checker, for the price of the batteries and charger and a unit that has PVM (like the Gripper), it's still a great deal. The $32.14 includes the Priority shipping. Got my confirmation, so hopefully all is well. No idea if I'll end up with 2 V8 units, but still...a good deal.

Pook - I didn't see a new customer coupon anywhere. I even checked ECF - no coupon listed. Even then, it's not a bad price at $35.14

The reason the USPS shipping is so high on these is that stoopid "designer" box it comes in. Non standard size so the cost to ship is high. The box is cool - for about two minutes. After that, you wish they had just mailed the thing without the box and saved you a few bucks. lol

I see there is just one left now.

Yeah I saw that too. That would be because of you and me. :D We both have to report in as to whether we get one V8 body or two in this deal.

I was going to reply to your other post, like "IMPULSE BUY ALERT!!!" after I got mine and that brought the remainder down to only two but... never mind! Figured you might need a push.

What it comes down to: For any VV pv at this price, in plastic, it's only going to last so long. Dropping it, of course, will head it toward a faster demise. Going all the way back through this thread you will see two camps: People like me who have owned them for months with no problems at all. Or the unlucky ones who seem to have problems - leading to V8 death - in pretty short order. Some of it could be quality control issues, I'm sure some of it's due to rough handling... While it does work it's a pretty neat thing: cool body design (at least I think so), VV, bright 2 color display, decent run time. I don't think there is a better price out there for a compete VV kit - including batteries, charger, an eGo adapter, and some sort of clearomizer thrown in as well. I have been happy with mine - but I'm really careful with my PV's too.

Justa couple V8 noob tips: This stuff has said before but this thread is getting kinda huge so this bears repeating.

1.) When playing with the voltage, on the low end it's never a good idea to set it at 3.0 volts because then you are just one accidental button push away from jumping all the way up to 6.0 volts. It's better to not go below 3.1 volts to avoid accidentally frying a carto. That way you would have to have two "accidental" pushes to cycle from 3.1 to 3.0 to 6.0 volts - far less likely to happen before you catch it.

2.) When you first power up - and every time you change the batteries - the default voltage is 5.0 volts. That's dangerous territory for most cartos. Make sure you select a proper voltage after changing batteries before you hit that fire button.

3.) The springs that make contact with the negative battery terminal are a pain. You have to be really careful to not just mash them down and bend them out of shape when inserting batteries. For the dexterous this feat is not a problem. The less gifted will resort to using something thin and stiff - like the edge of a credit card - to keep the spring in place when inserting batteries. lol

4.) These things do have a 5 click on/off feature. Some people seem to miss that.
 

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Very cool, and thanks Rick! The coupon was on their website, I believe. I Googled "Arizona Vapor Trails coupon" and it gave me a link that appeared to be on their site. As for "impulse buy". Yeah. Well, kinda. I had already made up my mind I wanted a back up for my VV Gripper. Was going to get another one on the 3rd of Feb. when the check came in. But I would have had to buy more batteries right off the bat, and the Gripper was $39.99. So....I guess this V8 kit was ultimately a "no brainer" for me. Yes, I'll miss the ohm checker. But I'm very careful and gentle with my PVs and haven't killed one yet. So hopefully my VVG will hold up and I can use the ohm checker on it when in need of doing so. I prefer to use 2ohm single coils, and vape low voltage. So I'm not hard on stuff.

I'll be careful with the plastic. As for accidentally clicking over to 6v...that can happen with the Gripper, too. I check a lot. Thanks for the tip about the default voltage. This IS different from the Gripper which goes to 3v when powering up or changing batteries. I'm nervous about the battery insertion and removal (heard some tales), but hopefully I'll manage it without too much trouble.

Yes...we'll compare notes if we get lucky and get 2 V8 bodies with our orders. I am NOT going to count on it. But it'd sure be nice! I could give one to hubby to take the sting out of my dipping into the funds before the 3rd! Probably nip any arguments or recriminations in the bud if HE got one, too! Especially at that price! (And hey..it's just that much less I'll be spending the first of next month! hehehe!)

Guess Monday is a holiday...I hope my package will get here by Thursday or Friday, though!
 

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Hey Ms. Rok - there is a Harbor Freight Tools in Jacksonville and Jacksonville West. You and/or DH ever been?

http://www.harborfreight.com/storelocator/location/map?city_input=jacksonville&state_input=f

Anyhoo, they have a meter there for all of $4.99 that measures resistance and voltage. (Another good thing to check to make sure your batteries are ok and your charger is playing nicely.) The reviews on the site are mixed but I picked one up a few weeks ago and it checked out just fine. It's item number 98025. If you do go there N.B.: there are two stock numbers for this meter in identical packaging, except they have different item numbers. You want #98025 - not the other one. (Big stock number right on the front of the package, can't miss it.)

I get the "third of the month thing" - always looking for good values, not just cheap stuff. Not as savvy as having a built in ohm checker, but so many people get into potentially dangerous situations when their LR devices drop super low or simply short. A slighlty kludgy volt/ohm meter is a good thing. Actually using it is even better. lol

The battery insertion thing... Nothing to be "nervous" about but Ovale certainly could have produced a better design. I can "catch" the spring on the bottom edge of the battery, then when I insert the positive end and push down into place the spring is ok. But the battery wells can and do really do bug some folks. And when you get yours you will see a cloth strap inside the battery well. The young-uns don't get what that's for: Over to the left, put the left battery in. Around the left battery and over to the right. Put the right battery in. Then the strap helps you pull out the batteries when you need to remove them. Some peeps didn't know what it was and just cut the thing out. :facepalm:

Geezy Peezy he's giving you grief about the budget? I was just in a store this weekend and "cheap" cigarettes here are now over $7.00 a pack, premium brands were close to $9.00. (One Ovale V8 = how many packs of... well you do the math.) I tend to more look at it was you just made an investment into not collapsing back into financial ruin.

If you like it and it's behaving well get back to us about batteries. We will find you some good values.
 

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2.) When you first power up - and every time you change the batteries - the default voltage is 5.0 volts. That's dangerous territory for most cartos. Make sure you select a proper voltage after changing batteries before you hit that fire button.

The newer, Ohm-metered model defaults to 3.0 Volts.
 
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