Hey P! Thought I'd drop by and say hi! It's been amazing to see what your first prototype has turned into. What a piece of art! Can't wait to see how it turns out
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Wasn't it just yesterday Monkey was Finishing off his wood with egg?
Well the Grande tube drops straight down (no zigzag), so maybe you can just find any stainless tube that has an inner diameter to match the outer diameter of the metal feed tube, then use a flat o-ring to prevent leaking (or plumbers tape)? I'd ask Rob first, but can't see why that wouldn't work. The pain in the .... would be to change bottles, you'd probably have to gravity feed it instead of squonking.
Seems easier to stop vaping banana... which I saw on the dangerous flavors list...
There is a list of dangerous flavors? Could you share the list please? I'd like to avoid them too. Thanks!
That is stunning
I can't like this enough, so I'm quote to reshare the pic. Love the name too- the OliveR Simian
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Not only is this mod a work of art, its backstory/origin is also an amazing conversation piece. I'm envious of you... I truly am! Congratulations on finding that wood piece and well done pdib for making it come alive after 5400 years!
These are LorAnn's dangerous flavors, but the chemicals that produce the given dangerous flavor would be the same across all manufacturers, they just have it laid out nicely: Best Lorann Oils Vaping Spreadsheet - 2013 | Best Vapor Flavors
Ie, the recent scare of people dying from microwaved popcorn is over the fragrance used to scent the popcorn (butter smell... same used in ecigs, and no one actually inhales their popcorn...) is diacetyl ... well diacetyl is used in everything that has a butter (and maybe banana, and custards, anything that has been blended with a hint of buttery).
Well, here, from the horses mouth: https://www.osha.gov/dsg/guidance/diacetyl-guidance.html
A number of employees exposed to FFCD have developed serious respiratory illness presenting with persistent dry cough, wheezing, shortness of breath upon exertion, and fixed airways obstruction on spirometry. Several employees have been diagnosed with asthma or bronchiolitis obliterans. Bronchiolitis obliterans occurs when small airways become inflamed and scarred, resulting in the thickening and narrowing of the airways. The symptoms and airways obstruction range from mild to severe, and do not improve when the employee goes home or on vacation. Because bronchiolitis obliterans is a rare disease, some employees may have been potentially misdiagnosed with asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, and/or pneumonia. The loss of pulmonary function associated with severe bronchiolitis obliterans is permanent and some patients have been placed on lung transplant waiting lists.
The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has, and continues to investigate, the occurrence of severe lung disease in employees at microwave popcorn packaging plants (NIOSH, 2003) and flavorings manufacturing facilities (Kanwal and Kullman, 2007). NIOSH reported that medical tests of employees at microwave popcorn plants showed fixed airways obstruction, some cases consistent with bronchiolitis obliterans, and other respiratory illnesses such as occupational asthma. NIOSH concluded that the lung diseases identified in these microwave popcorn plant employees were likely due to exposure to butter flavoring chemicals (NIOSH, 2003; Kanwal, et al., 2006). NIOSH also described cases of fixed airways obstruction, including three cases consistent with bronchiolitis obliterans, among employees producing butter and vanilla flavorings containing diacetyl at a flavorings manufacturing facility (Kanwal and Kullman, 2007). NIOSH concluded that, in this facility, “t is highly likely that exposures to diacetyl contributed to the occurrence of severe fixed obstructive lung disease...”, but that the role of other flavoring chemicals was unknown (Kanwal and Kullman, 2007).
THIS guy got 7 million dollars for getting 'popcorn lung', just from incidentally smelling his popcorn... 
Colorado man Wayne Watson wins $7 million in "popcorn lung" lawsuit - CBS News
So... don't vape diacetyl.
Colorado man Wayne Watson wins $7 million in "popcorn lung" lawsuit - CBS News
So... don't vape diacetyl.
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Oh... and diacetyl can cause Alzheimers:
Diacetyl chemical in artificial butter popcorn linked to Alzheimer's plaque build-up - CBS News
So... butter smelling flavors, or anything that includes butter smelling flavors is probably not good.
Diacetyl chemical in artificial butter popcorn linked to Alzheimer's plaque build-up - CBS News
So... butter smelling flavors, or anything that includes butter smelling flavors is probably not good.
I do not know of any eliquids that still contain diacetyl; some used to until they discovered it was unsafe to vape (but quite safe to swallow).
And in a nutshell, that is the problem with all flavours - nobody knows what is safe for inhalation since none were ever tested for that.
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And in a nutshell, that is the problem with all flavours - nobody knows what is safe for inhalation since none were ever tested for that.
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Well, it's easy to get carried away with alarmism... I do it myself. But in most cases, we aren't vaping very high % of flavors anyway. I do wonder a bit about the DIY who add 20% chemical flavors to their blends... many of those flavors are designed to be used at 5% or less concentrations. Then the power hitters who want to vape 20% at sub-ohm strength, and LUNG hit it (look, water vapor isn't absorbed through the lungs, BUT, flavor/scent particles absolutely can be... they are the same chemicals perfumes are made of...)
Hrm... just found the Patent for dialkyl-α,β-diacyl succinates... and... it 'rounds banana flavors':
Patent US4200659 - Flavoring compositions containing dialkyl-±,²-diacyl succinates - Google Patents
Hrm.
Thanks!
My favorite flavors (Blueberry, Grape and Watermelon) are listed as yellow. It's classified yellow because of the coloring though, but my juice (Dekang) isn't colored blue as the sheet lists.
I usually only vape fruit flavors except for the occasional menthol to refresh my tastebuds.
My favorite flavors (Blueberry, Grape and Watermelon) are listed as yellow. It's classified yellow because of the coloring though, but my juice (Dekang) isn't colored blue as the sheet lists.
I usually only vape fruit flavors except for the occasional menthol to refresh my tastebuds.
oh, i flavour my juice at about 20% and lung hit if i am showing off. I suppose i'm going to die.
This lungs and water thing has always perplexed me - lungs have to be wet to function at all and the advice to drink lots when vaping is because PG absorbs water from your body. Nobody ever drowned from vaping.
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This lungs and water thing has always perplexed me - lungs have to be wet to function at all and the advice to drink lots when vaping is because PG absorbs water from your body. Nobody ever drowned from vaping.
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My wife likes to vape your poo too. I have told her to slow down on it since i cannot get more until you get your hairy self back stateside!
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http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/RipeBananaFlavor.pdf, it was an interesting read, especially the part where it says to not inhale it's vapors.
I think super's on to something with his "flavor"
I think super's on to something with his "flavor"
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I have a love/hate/fear relationship with flavors. When the flavor is really jivin, I over vape. When it's off, then I'm not satisfied. All the unknowns about flavors bring the fear part. Vaping has always been a harm reduction thing and I think the next step for me is to cut back on flavors. I've already determined I really like inhaling vapor/smoke so I don't see an end to vaping. One thing I've noticed since getting down in the 0.7ohm range is 5% flavor is more than enough for me and many store bought are too strong. I was mixing some at 20%. I totally understand why some vape unflavored. When I get my new fancy OliveR, I'm going to give unflavored a good run while I contemplate what flavor family will live in it. I tend to assign a flavor family to a mod because I can taste leftovers no matter how well I clean. Anyway, just my 
on flavors.
Edit: and NETs are a whole other thing. I really like them and feel they are safer than food flavors but that could be totally wrong lol. Still not smoking so it's it's all good until I have reason to believe otherwise.
on flavors. Edit: and NETs are a whole other thing. I really like them and feel they are safer than food flavors but that could be totally wrong lol. Still not smoking so it's it's all good until I have reason to believe otherwise.
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I bought this tubing to replace mine.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=76228&partnumber=57576#57576
Part number 57576.
It's difficult to get installed because it's not silicone. The silicone tubing that comes with it absorbs everything it comes in contact with, including tung oil...
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