It's on Mike's "weekender" thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/496018-weekender-32.html#post11805449
Interesting specs.
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It's on Mike's "weekender" thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/496018-weekender-32.html#post11805449
Interesting specs.
T
I think Mamu or Bapgood have being gong on about some LG 18650s on another thread that might well be a game changer, but until i can find more about them i'll happily stick to my Orbies.
They are good batteries and ship free.
No doubt Reonauts will have their AWs, which are fine too. But i am just not very good at following instructions, so i have one 'recommended' AW 1600mAh battery and have just done my own thing ever since
T
if it makes you feel any better i have only used MNKE's ... and im a reonaut lol
Also look the area available above the voltage you normally change out the battery in those graphs.
This is especially important with a mechanical mod.
Here is a comparison of the AW IMR 18650 1600mah vs the 2000mah at 5 Amps.
Notice that unless you are changing out the battery below 3.3V the 1600mah will actually give you more vape time at 5A.
Here is the AW IMR18650 1600mah vs the LG 18650 D1 3000mAh (Pink) at 5A.
Look at the sharp drop at the beginning for the LG and just guessing at the area I would say the AW would beat it unless changing out below 3.45V or so which most of us don't go that low.
Didn't see the LG 30a 2500mah listed to check it out.
Battery test-review 18650 comparator
This is especially important with a mechanical mod.
Here is a comparison of the AW IMR 18650 1600mah vs the 2000mah at 5 Amps.
Notice that unless you are changing out the battery below 3.3V the 1600mah will actually give you more vape time at 5A.
Here is the AW IMR18650 1600mah vs the LG 18650 D1 3000mAh (Pink) at 5A.
Look at the sharp drop at the beginning for the LG and just guessing at the area I would say the AW would beat it unless changing out below 3.45V or so which most of us don't go that low.
Didn't see the LG 30a 2500mah listed to check it out.
Battery test-review 18650 comparator
Great point that I forgot to mention before... Any capacity below 3.3 to 3.5 volts is irrelevant.
Another thing worth mentioning/looking for... A "flat" or horizontal discharge curve with a sharp fall-off at the end. The flatter the curve, the more consistent your vape will be throughout the battery charge.
Basically goes from "great hit"... "great hit"... "great hit"... "...???". Instead of "This is great"... "This is pretty good"... "This is ok"... "This is a little weak"... "This sux"
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I have MNKEs, Samsungs (some Bee friend of mine rated them highly), Orbies mainly. I'd have gone for some Sonys too but right now i have 20 batteries on my table. 8 of them may be a bit crap now having used them for about a year, so they are in reserve and HRH can use those. Those are Efests. She's not into sub-Ω stuff.
Yes yes you have had the same battery in use everyday for 5 years and it's as good as new - you'd be surprised how often i hear this. WTG! My batteries are shot after a year regardless!
The MNKEs have been great batteries, but they are no longer made - so when these are shot that's it. The reason i am always on the prowl for new batteries is because i am the laziest man on the planet: i want an almost maintenance free mod (forget all this noalox nonsense!), a battery that lasts all day, and coils that last a month or more (R41 ...). Then i'll be happy!
T
at best, Mr. T, the very best, you are the second laziest...
i dunno, D. You did expend the extra energy to italicize. We may just have a contest on our hands here.
before i say that this wouldn't even come close to being a contest, may i ask if the prize is one o dem godawful freakin gorgeous Santos Mahogany dibis?
The batteries I asked about, the Panasonic 18650 NCR18650PF are the newer version of the Panasonic 18650 NCR18650B. This is the Orbtronic version here: NCR18650PD - New NCR18650PF - High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida
Per your chart, the old version Panasonic 18650 NCR18650B is the highest battery life of all batteries made. The newer version that I asked you about, is even longer life. In my VTR, where I can use both this or the AW IMR 18650, it lasts what feels like 2x longer. Might only be 1.5x longer.
Here's your chart, just scroll down to the solid purple bar that spans end to end: Battery test-review 18650 summary
If this can take flat top batteries, those are pretty long lasting. I have 4 types of 18650s:
AW IMR 18650
Panasonic 18650 NCR18650PF
Orbtronic's generic IMR Hybrid 2250mAh Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 With Button Top (Orbtronic product ID TOP-CGR18650CH)
Efest V2 2000 mah
Of the 4, the Panasonic is the only flat top, and blows away all the others for duration... is there any reason NOT to use those? They have a higher mah rating than the 30a you were talking about.
Per your chart, the old version Panasonic 18650 NCR18650B is the highest battery life of all batteries made. The newer version that I asked you about, is even longer life. In my VTR, where I can use both this or the AW IMR 18650, it lasts what feels like 2x longer. Might only be 1.5x longer.
Here's your chart, just scroll down to the solid purple bar that spans end to end: Battery test-review 18650 summary
If this can take flat top batteries, those are pretty long lasting. I have 4 types of 18650s:
AW IMR 18650
Panasonic 18650 NCR18650PF
Orbtronic's generic IMR Hybrid 2250mAh Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 With Button Top (Orbtronic product ID TOP-CGR18650CH)
Efest V2 2000 mah
Of the 4, the Panasonic is the only flat top, and blows away all the others for duration... is there any reason NOT to use those? They have a higher mah rating than the 30a you were talking about.
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Whoa... the LG D1 is cheaper than the Panasonic too. LG 18650 D1 3000mAh 3.7V rechargeable battery cells
don't confuse/conflate mAh and amperage. Two very different things.
When you're vaping mechanical, the values change as to what's going to provide a satisfying vape longer. As soon as that battery drops under ~3.7 volts, it's worthless to you. Furthermore, you can have 3000mAh, but if the battery can't deliver the amperage your asking for in a 3 second burst (if what's stored in there isn't coming out as fast as you need it to); it's a worthless extra 1500mAh. What's more, generally speaking, the more storage capacity a battery has, the more internal resistance it has (meaning that you can't pour juice out of it as fast as something with less stuff crammed into it. . . . .. it's about elbow room for electrons)
When you're vaping mechanical, the values change as to what's going to provide a satisfying vape longer. As soon as that battery drops under ~3.7 volts, it's worthless to you. Furthermore, you can have 3000mAh, but if the battery can't deliver the amperage your asking for in a 3 second burst (if what's stored in there isn't coming out as fast as you need it to); it's a worthless extra 1500mAh. What's more, generally speaking, the more storage capacity a battery has, the more internal resistance it has (meaning that you can't pour juice out of it as fast as something with less stuff crammed into it. . . . .. it's about elbow room for electrons)
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What he said
Mechanical's are a different ball game from electronic mods.
Couldn't find a discharge chart for those, but they may well be very good for a mechanical just don't know.
What he said
Mechanical's are a different ball game from electronic mods.
Couldn't find a discharge chart for those, but they may well be very good for a mechanical just don't know.
so - if you follow from Dibby's post yesterday 'amps is amps, mudbugs are mudbugs and the moon is the moon'
it follows that milli moon hours, by substitution, is an unreliable guide to battery perfromance. Stands to reason really!
T
it follows that milli moon hours, by substitution, is an unreliable guide to battery perfromance. Stands to reason really!
T
don't confuse/conflate mAh and amperage. Two very different things.
When you're vaping mechanical, the values change as to what's going to provide a satisfying vape longer. As soon as that battery drops under ~3.7 volts, it's worthless to you. Furthermore, you can have 3000mAh, but if the battery can't deliver the amperage your asking for in a 3 second burst (if what's stored in there isn't coming out as fast as you need it to); it's a worthless extra 1500mAh. What's more, generally speaking, the more storage capacity a battery has, the more internal resistance it has (meaning that you can't pour juice out of it as fast as something with less stuff crammed into it. . . . .. it's about elbow room for electrons)
Ok, that's what I wanted to know
. Thanks!! Where do you find the amp ratings for a battery? For example, on this one:NCR18650PD - New NCR18650PF - High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida
Battery type: 18650
High Drain Capacity: 2900mAh
Max Discharge (constant current): 10A
Max Discharge Pulse Current (5-6 sec.): 18A
Full charge: 4.2V
- See more at: NCR18650PD - New NCR18650PF - High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida
It doesn't give that range where it drops off...
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