PDIB's Making MODs!

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That's strange. How about DeOxit? It is not a grease, but a cleaner/lubricant/protectant used by lots of electronics enthusiasts (radio/audio, etc). Musicians use it with mixer boards, pedals, amps and more. You might even be able to find it in a musical instrument store there.

I couldn't get my hands on Noalox locally and used DeOxit on all my vape gear. It is more expensive than the greases, but works fantastic in our high humidity.

I will see if I can find that. With the new contacts from Rob, wouldn't this be an unnecessary maintenance task though?
 

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Paging Mr Mundy!!!!


Ok so I'm installing a DNA30 board in my vtr, and I'm gonna use the on board firing button and voltage buttons. I have the fire button figured out, but I don't have anything worked out for the voltage buttons. Can I use a piece of welding rod as the switch that extends above the surface of the vtr? Or would it be more beneficial to install the actual buttons a little higher then the board and ignore the onboard buttons all together?

:2c: I would use the buttons in the mod and solder to the dna 30 input locations, personally... Less room for error... as Mundy said, one drop and the alignment of the shafts could be fubared...
 

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I will see if I can find that. With the new contacts from Rob, wouldn't this be an unnecessary maintenance task though?

I don't have a Reo, so I'll have to defer that question to somebody else. It can't hurt, though. I expect I'll use it or NO-OX-ID extensively when I get a Reo. But that's because it will go fishing with me and will be exposed to salty air/water and probably some fishy stuff.
 

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I will see if I can find that. With the new contacts from Rob, wouldn't this be an unnecessary maintenance task though?

I don't have a Reo, so I'll have to defer that question to somebody else. It can't hurt, though. I expect I'll use it or NO-OX-ID extensively when I get a Reo. But that's because it will go fishing with me and will be exposed to salty air/water and probably some fishy stuff.
They should reduce the need or rate at which oxidation occurs but still not a bad idea to use something to keep the mod in top shape. I'll probably switch to cleaning once a month or more instead of every week.
 

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:2c: I would use the buttons in the mod and solder to the DNA 30 input locations, personally... Less room for error... as Mundy said, one drop and the alignment of the shafts could be fubared...

Ah I never thought about that. I will be drilling out holes for buttons then on Friday when I go back to work, as that's where the vtr is currently haha!
 

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Got my new spring and longer, more-screw-time brass contact screws yesterday (thanks pdib!). I didn't think I would notice much of a difference, but I was wrong. It is noticeably better! That surprised me since it was already great.

My Dibi is only two weeks old and I've been cleaning/lubing the contacts regularly. No nail files for me! I usually use an eraser or 1500 grit sandpaper. This is the first time I cleaned inside the button and contact plate, but there was plenty of Noalox in there anyway. I didn't measure anything, so I don't have the numbers to post. I trust the numbers posted by others anyway. I doubt it makes a difference, but I washed all the Noalox off and replaced it with NO-OX-ID "A-Special"

In other news, I need to order another BF atty. I have two, but I'm about to drill (or FUBAR) some post holes for my first Mundy Magic coil. Thanks to Mundy's videos and close ups, I was able to make magic wire on the first try. It just won't fit in my Cyclone or RM2 posts. I can't wait to try it, but probably won't get the chance today.

If you squeeze / roll the ends with pliers where they go into the posts you should be able to (with some muttering involved) get MM into RM2 posts (I had 1 RM2 with tiny holes that wouldn't work with). Just make sure you don't break one of the 3 wires or you will have a hot spot at that point. Easier to hand drill them out though.
 

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Update:

The spring and screw are definately making this hit harder and has completely done away with the need to push the button sideways in order to get proper connection at all (I'm assuming due to the screw). There is a smaller throw for the button press now, and you don't have to button mash at all in order to get a great connection.

Thanks pdib! Everyone should make those an automatic add-on!
 

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They should reduce the need or rate at which oxidation occurs but still not a bad idea to use something to keep the mod in top shape. I'll probably switch to cleaning once a month or more instead of every week.

Rob said somewhere you wont need Noalox with the new contacts. The beauty of BeCu copper is it drastically reduces sparking which causes most of the oxidation in the first place. That's why they use BeCu copper tools on gas pipes and such.

I have used Deoxit for years (20+) in electronics so I tried it on my REO's and it works great. There are different formulations. Some meant as deoxidation (Deoxit D) and some specifically formulated as a protectant (Deoxit G). I use the protectant. The great thing about this stuff is you only need a very thin layer - not as much mess.

Dielectric grease from the auto store works as well but it doesn't have the conductive properties of Noalox.
 
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I've just been using just the Ag/BeCu Spring with the stock screw for a week now. No Noalox. It started to hit a little weak yesterday after a little more than a week so I turned the button a little and its been hitting strong ever since. Probably time to clean it again.

So, just the experimental spring with no other variables is a significant improvement. I'm curious to see how the experimental brass screw holds up. More or less sparking and oxidation at the contact? Anyone look for BeCu screws yet?
 
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I've just been using just the Ag/BeCu Spring with the stock screw for a week now. No Noalox. It started to hit a little weak yesterday after a little more than a week so I turned the button a little and its been hitting strong ever since. Probably time to clean it again.

So, just the experimental spring with no other variables is a significant improvement. I'm curious to see how the experimental brass screw holds up. More or less sparking and oxidation at the contact? Anyone look for BeCu screws yet?

I had the same experience with the Ag/BeCu spring, had to turn the button a little. No biggie but with the bypass strip from 510 base to silver contact I haven't had a lick of trouble yet (course it hasn't been that long either), and a really soft spring is a plus (at least for me). Wife is out of town this weekend (I can work as late as I want) so assuming I can get caught up with bids I will play with the silver contact at the other end of the battery and hopefully my magnets will be here.
 

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I've just been using just the Ag/BeCu Spring with the stock screw for a week now. No Noalox. It started to hit a little weak yesterday after a little more than a week so I turned the button a little and its been hitting strong ever since. Probably time to clean it again.

So, just the experimental spring with no other variables is a significant improvement. I'm curious to see how the experimental brass screw holds up. More or less sparking and oxidation at the contact? Anyone look for BeCu screws yet?

Would replacing all mod springs with BeCu be just as dramatic, or is this a property of sub-ohming only that the contact makes such a difference??
 

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Why does the current pass through the spring? I don't get it :facepalm:

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If the button center post stays perfectly centered and doesn't touch the plate at the top the carries the current then the current travels through the spring since it touches both the plate and the button contact.
 

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Would replacing all mod springs with BeCu be just as dramatic, or is this a property of sub-ohming only that the contact makes such a difference??

Yes, any mod where most of the current flows through the spring would benefit greatly. Sub ohm benefit the most in Vape performance, higher resistances benefit in better battery performance but hardly noticeable in the Vape quality.
 

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Didn't I tell you those 2900 mAH Panasonic NCRs were awesome? ;)

I think they'd be fine down to 0.75 ohms or thereabouts. Personally I don't plan to go that low, but then, no plan of battle ever survives contact with the enemy. :D

I've used those Panasonics for .8ohm coils and they work just fine. I'm hoping to get a few more here very soon.


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