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I guess I don't understand this. I thought we were trying to get out from under being deemed a
tobacco product. Isn't this what they are talking about. Do I trust them not to come up with something we are not totally happy with...of course I don't, they are politicians but I was under the impression that Sen. Johnson was actually trying to do the right thing. It must be Rep Hunter you have a problem with.
@mattiem, my sincere, most humble apologies. I saw the name at the top and jumped to conclusions. I had just heard about the Meals on Wheels cut and a few others and was, for lack of a better term, extremely POed. I don't have anything, that I'm aware of, against Johnson or Hunter. I loath what Obama's administration did to
vaping.
People in general don't need to like or despise a politician to laud them if they are able to overturn this BS. Millions of lives are at stake. I personally don't care who overturns it as long as it is overturned, not so much for me but the public at large. I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions.
Glad to see you back! Hope things are looking up. I've noticed the lack of protection from mosquitoes too, living near the river it's a constant bother.
For the CA tax, my interpretation(and that's all it is at this point) is that due to the timing of when the law takes effect and when the BOE reviews the taxes annually we're going to have a new tax April 1st of 27(?)%, which is based on the current CA $.87 tax per pack. Then, they're going to meet in April and figure out what the new tax will be based on the new rate of $2.87 per pack, and we'll get that new rate in June. That will be a wholesale tax, so if you purchase in CA it should be included in the price already. i have no idea what their plans are for enforcement on out of state purchases.
Also, I get what you mean about the other stuff. I flop back and forth between being single issue and my general socially liberal tendencies. I support removing vaping from tobacco, but not the dismantling of the FDA or other agencies, like the EPA. Now, not all Republicans support the current administration, and I really don't believe the administration cares one way or the other about vaping, if anything we might skate by on a general dislike of regulations period.
Strange bedfellows indeed.
Oh yeah, you have a bigger mosquito problem than we do. Bet our face-fly problem is bigger than yours, so than makes us even. I've considered buying cigs just to wave around my face. Can't stand the smell, can't stand the bugs...
Parents made it over the biggest hurdles so I'm kinda in awe. We'll see how it goes. Will have to make an emergency trip up there in about a week when they transition back to their own apartment. I admit it, they are a life lesson in how to grow old gracefully. What ticks me off, and what I've fought for since it happened, is people trying to push their own do-gooder agenda on them despite the harm it would do to them. Sound familiar?
Thank you for the CA appraisal. I missed the part about the April meeting.
At this point we have almost no money left but I'm trying to stock up on the gaps. I've read all the threads (I think) but it's amazing what you can speculate about when the guillotine is about to fall.
I need to keep my mouth shut and just let you speak for me.
Amen to this!!!
It seems like always though, you have to pick your poison!
Btw I'm watching the CA thing closely since my son's job is moving him out there.
Thankfully he never picked up the smoking thing, but I plan on visiting often.
Don't want to break any laws or get caught smuggling juice across state lines!
For what it's worth, I fly in and out of the state with pretty much unlabeled unicorn bottles of juice in my liquids bag and no one pays any attention. Biggest label I put on them is, "BB 5." It stands for blackberry, 5mg. Fly with powered pudding, I know this from bitter experience, you'll be put under extra scrutiny. The powder often shows up as a liquid. I don't have any but apparently so do implants.
Meals on Wheels is my favorite charity.
And my new dog approves as well...
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AwwwwwwwOOOOOOOOO! Who is s/he? It's poor ears.
I
you for adopting it. I'll bet good money (not that I have any) that s/he knows you're the rescuer. May you all have a long, happy, energetic life together.
Deepest, sincere gratitude that you support and can donate to Meals on Wheels.
It's not just the warm meal, it may be the only human contact these people have for a days to weeks on end. Some things just shouldn't come to an end. Vaping is one one of them.
