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So... I made this, and I just sent it out as an update. The idea was kind of spurred on by something @The Ocelot posted in another thread, that we need someone explaining things to friends and family that isn't, um, rip.



Good one, Les!!
 

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Excellent, Les. :thumbs:

Trying to recreate at the top of this page. Les posted at the bottom of the last page:

So... I made this, and I just sent it out as an update. The idea was kind of spurred on by something @The Ocelot posted in another thread, that we need someone explaining things to friends and family that isn't, um, rip.

 

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Sorry Les, going to sound like your mother. :rolleyes: You did well but you will only learn by doing. I have a hell of a lot of admiration for you (except when you get frustrated and sound like you're gonna endorse a He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named candidate). Seriously, I admire and respect the hell out of you. You are intelligent, well spoken and level headed (except once :D. No, not letting go of that).

That video will get through to more people than some slick production ever will. You done good, Son. Please do let me know when you are running for office because I want to stump for you, unless you went to the Dark Side, of course. :lol:

Seriously, you did an excellent job, don't sweat it. :)
 

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Sorry Les, going to sound like your mother. :rolleyes: You did well but you will only learn by doing. I have a hell of a lot of admiration for you (except when you get frustrated and sound like you're gonna endorse a He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named candidate). Seriously, I admire and respect the hell out of you. You are intelligent, well spoken and level headed (except once :D. No, not letting go of that).

That video will get through to more people than some slick production ever will. You done good, Son. Please do let me know when you are running for office because I want to stump for you, unless you went to the Dark Side, of course. :lol:

Seriously, you did an excellent job, don't sweat it. :)
Aw, shucks :blush:
That's kind of why I wanted to do this, this whole thing, the petition and the video. Yes, we need people who know the ropes, know who to talk to and how to organize, but we can all help. We can all play a part, because it's important to all of us.

I might pay attention when Phil, or Rip, or Bill says something, but my non-vaping Aunt is much more likely to listen and respond to me. If every American who has a smoking family member were on our side, we'd be unstoppable.
 

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Les, freakin' stop underestimating yourself. You already are a powerful person. Intelligent, well spoken, informed, amiable. You've already made a difference, don't stop at your aunt, though I'm sure she is a lovely person. You instinctively do the right thing without having to be told to do so (except about He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named).

It will be interesting to see how many come aboard in three months when they "suddenly" come around. Those that aren't listening now won't until the hammer falls and they are caught short. It is heartening to see how many people have joined ECF recently to express their shock and outrage. Some people actually do watch/read the news.

What's left of our dog needs a walk now to keep his muscle strength up. He has surgery on Monday. I'll check in when we get back.
 

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The Aunt was just an example :)

I wish part of the testimonial campaign had been pushing people to share them with everyone. Gathering them is great, but the FDA doesn't care about our personal stories.

As for The Rump... that may have been an empty threat. We'll see, I have to figure out how to balance my social liberalism with politicians who couldn't care less about us if they tried.
 

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So... I made this, and I just sent it out as an update. The idea was kind of spurred on by something @The Ocelot posted in another thread, that we need someone explaining things to friends and family that isn't, um, rip.



If there were a 'Love' button option, you would get a ton. :wub:


I saw it when you posted the update on the petition.

This is definitely something that can be shown to non vapers and loved ones without scaring the crap out of them.
 

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It will be interesting to see how many come aboard in three months when they "suddenly" come around. Those that aren't listening now won't until the hammer falls and they are caught short. It is heartening to see how many people have joined ECF recently to express their shock and outrage. Some people actually do watch/read the news.

Alas, that's been the problem all along. THIS thread was started nearly a year ago (thanks @Caro123!), kept up front by a few of us who have been aware and active since then or before, and only NOW are (some) catching on??

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Thanks Les! Nicely done video!
Election stuff has kept me busy lately, but I still lurk here when I have the time. And I still talk to everyone who asks about my vaping setup.

In keeping with the tradition, here's a photo a friend of mine took yesterday morning in Western NY. A white-tailed deer about a day or two old.
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I wish I weren't such a slow talker, I even edited out 40 seconds of pauses, it's still really long.
as far as I am concerned, it is perfect !!!!!!!!
Thank you for giving us another tool to help fight this fight :wub:
 

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I just posted it along with this message on facebook

If you are a smoker or a Vaper or know someone that is, Please watch and then share this short video. We are fighting to keep this lifesaving technology available.

Once you have watched it please take one more moment to sign this very important petition U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, President of the United States: Reject the FDA's Deeming of Vapor Products as Tobacco Products

there is no tobacco in these products but the FDA is trying to deem them tobacco products thus trying to control them under the tobacco control act of 2007.

I personally have been smoke free for almost 5 years and have never felt better. Wouldn't you love to see one of your loved ones being able to say the same thing. I really think this one thing has the potential to totally put an end to tobacco cigarettes and that is the reason they are being demonized by those that are losing money because of them.

Thank you for helping us fight for this healthier alternative to smoking tobacco products.

I don't spend much time on facebook but am not above using it to our advantage :D
 

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I just posted it along with this message on facebook



I don't spend much time on facebook but am not above using it to our advantage :D
Excellently done! That's what I hoped would happen, with my video or their own(I really don't need my mug all over the Internet), people sharing and reaching out to those who think they aren't part of this.

I don't know a single person who doesn't know someone who has or could be helped by vaping(because they all know me ;) ).
 

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Hope you are warming up Robin. :lol:

Thanks Les! Nicely done video!
Election stuff has kept me busy lately, but I still lurk here when I have the time. And I still talk to everyone who asks about my vaping setup.

In keeping with the tradition, here's a photo a friend of mine took yesterday morning in Western NY. A white-tailed deer about a day or two old.
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Phil, what a fantastic photo! Give my eyeteeth to get a photo like that. Congratulations to your friend and thank you for sharing. :thumbs:
 

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Hope you are warming up Robin. :lol:


Phil, what a fantastic photo! Give my eyeteeth to get a photo like that. Congratulations to your friend and thank you for sharing. :thumbs:

Here's Wooly's photo website. He does some fantastic work, and he's also the vaper who got me interested. Enjoy.
Galleries by Matt Wesolowski
 

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