I may have been a little too quick to judge the neo-Classic-Reborn. The flavors I used in the "two" Phoenixes from the previous post were Butterscotch Pudding and Bavarian Cream from Vapedudes. Last night I loaded a Raven with Butterscotch Pudding and the Raven is not wicking very well. Every other flavor wicks just fine. So maybe it actually is my juice and not the Phoenix. The strange thing is that the juice wicks perfectly fine in a T4, just the Phoenix and Raven not so much. I'm not sure what to do going forward because the Butterscotch Pudding was the first butterscotch juice out of so many I tried that actually tastes like butterscotch. I'd hate to give up on the juice just because it doesn't perform well in a Phoenix style carto and tank. I haven't yet tried the Bavarian Cream in the Raven. One ting I can do is try the Flux nectar Butterscotch and Bavarian Leche and compare tastes and performance in a Raven and Phoenix.