Pilot/EVO/M-401 VS Dura/510?

[Dr. Russell Fell]

I'm debating dropping my 901 completely and switching to a better mini for on the go occasions. I've read great things so far about both of these models, but which one is the better choice? Also, there seems to be more parts/distributors available for the pilot/evo/m-401 models than the 510/dura, which makes me think the 401 is the better choice all around.

 

[scrubadub]

I'd give the Dura a miss if I were you. I'm now on my third set of replacements and none of it has worked. I've given up with it, premium price for a beta product.

My Evo seemed to work well - cheap and had super fast charge time from USB but I couldn't be bothered faffing around with the little carts and dripping it is tricky. From what I've read the 401 is very similar and I think I Leaford gave it a glowing review somewhere. Could be wrong about that though.

Definitely be wary of the Dura though Russell.

 

[leaford]

I think so.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I think they are different beasts really. The M401/Evo is very small, but punches above its weight. Its main downside, IMO, is fiddly cartridges. They are not that easy to top up. Do it carelessly and you will get a mouthfull of e-liquid. The 901 cartridges are much easier in this respect. However, it gives a better "smoking" experience than any 901 I've tried IMHO..

I've not tried the joyetech/Dura. It looks like when it works it should be good. It seems like a 901 on steroids, which appeals to me. I'm still doubtful about spending so much on an item which seems to have a fairly high chance of being defective. Battery problems seem to be common, judging by what's being posted here. If they ironed out the issues, and reasonably priced spare parts were available, then I'd be tempted.

Neither is perfect.

 

[Dr. Russell Fell]

I'd give the Dura a miss if I were you. I'm now on my third set of replacements and none of it has worked. I've given up with it, premium price for a beta product.

My Evo seemed to work well - cheap and had super fast charge time from USB but I couldn't be bothered faffing around with the little carts and dripping it is tricky. From what I've read the 401 is very similar and I think I Leaford gave it a glowing review somewhere. Could be wrong about that though.

Definitely be wary of the Dura though Russell.

yeah which is why if i were to even try the dura i'd just go the 510 route. i'm not paying more than i should just for the janty name.

and that was another thing about the evo that made me think - i don't want to constantly have to go through the process to simply refill the damn thing. plus, the evo-users seem to be running into more issues lately...

 

[Dr. Russell Fell]

I think they are different beasts really. The M401/Evo is very small, but punches above its weight. Its main downside, IMO, is fiddly cartridges. They are not that easy to top up. Do it carelessly and you will get a mouthfull of e-liquid. The 901 cartridges are much easier in this respect. However, it gives a better "smoking" experience than any 901 I've tried IMHO..

I've not tried the Joyetech/Dura. It looks like when it works it should be good. It seems like a 901 on steroids, which appeals to me. I'm still doubtful about spending so much on an item which seems to have a fairly high chance of being defective. Battery problems seem to be common, judging by what's being posted here. If they ironed out the issues, and reasonably priced spare parts were available, then I'd be tempted.

Neither is perfect.

yep, issues i'm debating with. i've contacted litecigusa, the only distirbutor that seems to sell the joytech 510 so far, about carrying them for their US distributor. thanks for the input.

 

[scrubadub]

yeah which is why if i were to even try the dura i'd just go the 510 route. i'm not paying more than i should just for the janty name.
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Unfortunately from the look of what's being discussed here it sounds like Joytech are trying to make sure 510s from other suppliers are sold at the same price as the Dura

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...m/5924-altsmoke-yeti-presale-site-news-2.html

 

[Dr. Russell Fell]

Unfortunately from the look of what's being discussed here it sounds like Joytech are trying to make sure 510s from other suppliers are sold at the same price as the Dura

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...m/5924-altsmoke-yeti-presale-site-news-2.html

aawww weak.

i'm sure someone will eventually undercut them or even improve on the model in the near future.

 

[Kate]

Just a thought ... if Janty are having trouble with their version of the 501 won't that apply to all versions from the same manufacturer? What if you get a dud with no warranty?

 

[scrubadub]

Just a thought ... if Janty are having trouble with their version of the 501 won't that apply to all versions from the same manufacturer? What if you get a dud with no warranty?

Good point Kate. It's the same model so it stands to reason that the same problems exist. Litecig EU stock the 510 and they offered 6 month warranties on their products last time I used them. No difference in price though.

 

[PeteMcArthur]

I think I've said all I can about the Dura. It cost me £110 including the PCC and I'm delighted to have sold it for £30. It has totally soured my regard for Janty. The carts leak, the batteries fail and the PCC doesn't work. Janty will replace your faulty batteries with new, faulty batteries, that's good customer service???

Every time I criticise Janty I get folks saying how wonderful they are and they'll sort it eventually, well they did not sort it for me. I learned a very expensive lesson, Janty lost a customer, don't suppose they care..

 

[TECC.510 TITAN]

Pete thats expensive.. Ive been trialling one and we have committed to stock the model.

No idea if janty offer dual atomisers or their price.. I wanted to try with no forum or other sellers input..I Love it.. No problem whatsoever.

And Joytech enforce no pricing structure so in reality Janty are very expensive, its that simple.. We worked out our price and what the customer would get for it.

 

[PeteMcArthur]

I'm sure that Joytech will get it right eventually. What I object to is substandard kits being sold to the public, Janty claiming they actually make the things and a two tier level of customer service, apparently excellent in the US but mediocre in Europe. Also anyone that knows a bit about batteries will see that the PCC can never work efficiently.

As my blood pressure is now of the scale I shall never mention Janty or Dura again, ever. And never will I pay them a single penny again.

*************** Rant over ********************8

 

[TECC.510 TITAN]

Pete all fair points, i can only go on what i have tried.. All appeared well. Joytech so far have been Exemplary, very efficient and easy to deal with..

We shall see what Uk users make of the product..Hope your B/P settles down..

 

[linkdead]

Well my 4 cents on the subject.
First let me say I love the hit that the Dura provides.
However one of my batteries cuts off after 2.5 seconds, the other sometimes 2.5 sometimes 7 seconds. I emailed them and they sent me one battery. Now I hope it works but that still leaves me with one funky battery.
I don't have a pilot but I have a friend who does. He loves it but said even with the pre-filled carts he often gets a mouthful of liquid.
So all in all I say its about half dozen of one and six of the other.

 

[BrazilyanGuy]

I have the two models, Janty Dura and the Pilot from puresmoker. The Pilot is a superb e-cigarette, good amount of vapour and a good throat hit. The Janty Dura is the best e-cigarette for me. It has a hugeeeee amount of vapor with the most powerfull throat hit that I ever felt, it is really superb. For me, the Janty Dura doesn't has a competitor with the same performance. I think that the Dura is a new class e-cigarette.

 

[Spikey]

I have only had my 401 a week... I can only compare it to the 901 (which was my 1st) and I am ready to give my 901 away to a friend and let her buy me a second 401 instead. Love the feel, love the size, love the look.

Carts are recessed into the mouthpiece, but if u have a steady hand and drip over the middle of the cart... (and limit to 2 or 3 drops) there does not seem to be any leakage into the mouthpiece. Sometimes I pull it up with tweezers and then refill so I don't overfill. It is great though. I have heard of a bunch of probs (like everyone is posting on here) about Dura tho.

 

[bettyboop]

Spikey, How is the battery life and does it have great vapor? Is the battery hinky like the 901's???

 

[Spikey]

Spikey, How is the battery life and does it have great vapor? Is the battery hinky like the 901's???

Battery life is better (by about 2 hours when I use it) on the 401. 901 lasts me about 5 hours, 401 is closer to 7 or 8 hours. Battery also seems to charge to full capacity faster on the 401 (I never go by the indicator lights.. they are not always accurate). I only know because I am impatient and sometimes take them off and use them after only 2 hours if I don't have my backup battery with me.

Vapor on the 901 looks like more on the exhale, but I seem to feel it better on the 401 (but I take little puffs (3 seconds on average)... unlike some of the big hitters who do video reviews here.

 

[Cyborgasm]

My first dura atomizer died after one day, got my replacement a few days ago and it's performing excellent. The atomizer seems to heat up faster than a 901, I think that's why it produces so much vapor/throat hit but also might be why they seem to die so often. Plus the carts last so much longer, I took 3 carts to work today with no extra juice and I didn't finish the one I started with. With my 901 i'm topping off carts every couple hours.

This was my first day out with the PCC but it doesn't seem to fully charge the batteries. It definetly charges them I just don't know how much, i'll have to use it a few more days to say for sure.

IMO the Dura is great...so far.