Pipe tobacco and Cigar extraction
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They have a large selection of single varietal tobacco's and also flavored types, all available for about $4 an ounce.
I tried this about a month ago. Wow this stuff is great! Real tobacco flavor, YES. My attys have been pretty good as well. 70/30vg blend.
Don't be afraid if it taste like crap at first, it needs to STEEP. I used normal white coffee filters. You will loose about 30% of the base liquid that you start with.
THANKS KURT!
Don't be afraid if it taste like crap at first, it needs to STEEP. I used normal white coffee filters. You will loose about 30% of the base liquid that you start with.
THANKS KURT!
Just checking in to see what all my fellow NET chemists are working on at current. Anything really outstanding we should try? I just mixed up a juice from a 2 week extract of a pipe tobacco called Shortcut To Mushrooms, from a tobacco shop in Colorado. It's a lightly cased Latakia based blend thats deliciously smoky and slightly candy sweet. I enjoyed this tobacco in the pipe on occasion, and find it's very true to form in it's liquid version. In my slow cooker now is my first cigar extract, a Montecristo #4 Cubano.
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Pipes & Cigars finally got some Stoved Virginia and Macedonian Oriental blending tobacco's. Both sucking up PG for the next month or so. Had them throw in a Ghurka 2001. Don't know whether to smoke it or soak it.
I did it with a 'Blonde" but only getting the top half wasn't the same. 
Oooh! That's sounds dirty or maybe kinky. I don't know.
Oooh! That's sounds dirty or maybe kinky. I don't know.
Poet & Scholar from Vape Watch is getting rave reviews in the NET thread. From the description I think the juice is extracted from Tatiana Honey Flavored Corona's. I ordered a couple and will try my hand at extracting some. The juice cost over $1.00USD per ml, so here's hoping a $4.00USD cigar extracts well.
Interesting observation. I'm usually not one to scrutinize the cost of a "creation" at the sum of it's parts, but knowing how much base flavor is needed does have me wondering about this price point. Definitely let us know how your extract turns out.
I finished my sixth batch of extractions yesterday---three pipe tobaccos (H&H Anniversary Kake, H&H Louisiana Red, and McClelland Oriental Cavendish) and one RYO cigarette blend (Peter Stokkebye Norwegian). That makes 21 extracts total: 5 specialty cigarette tobaccos, 13 pipe tobacco blends, and 3 natural coffee extracts. I'm amazed at how much I enjoy doing this. As much as I love vaping, I like making natural extracts just as much. I now have sufficient extract to make about ten liters of DIY juice, but there's no stopping now.
Today I ordered a premium cigar sampler pack from Thompson Cigars. Nine different cigars, each rated at 90 or better by the top cigar review site. $34.95 with free shipping. That's an average of four bucks a piece shipped, not half bad for nine high-quality cigars. Other than having to chop up the cigars to prepare the macerations, I don't know if there's any meaningful difference between extracting pipe tobaccos and cigars. I guess I'll find out.
Today I ordered a premium cigar sampler pack from Thompson Cigars. Nine different cigars, each rated at 90 or better by the top cigar review site. $34.95 with free shipping. That's an average of four bucks a piece shipped, not half bad for nine high-quality cigars. Other than having to chop up the cigars to prepare the macerations, I don't know if there's any meaningful difference between extracting pipe tobaccos and cigars. I guess I'll find out.
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I'm with you Bill. I've definitely caught the extract "bug" as well. There's something fascinating and satisfying about harnessing a relatively simple process to create such satisfying elixirs. I'm interested to see how your Anniversary Kake turns out. I have 6-7 oz. of that tobacco left in my cellar from a while back. If it's well enough in liquid form I may have to give that one a go myself. Very unique Virginia blend indeed. I always thought it smoked exceptionally sweet for being free of casings (as far as I know). If you need raw material for that one again in the future, I can certainly be your source.
I'm sampling a juice from some Montecristo #4 Cubano that I mixed up a few weeks ago. All I can say is WOW. Even mixed at 18%, this is clean, and clear (extract filtered 4 times) and wonderfully complex. Slightly sweet & earthy, in the way only a Cuban cigar can be, with a slight hint of cedar which I suspect is due to extensive aging in my humidor. A mighty fine vape.
So far after having completed 2 cigar extractions, I can say being able to choose your "cut" of
the tobacco going into the PG/VG for maceration does make a difference in filtering. Most pipe blends are either shag, ribbon or flake (flake being the best for me so far) leaving a wide variety of particulate behind for straining/filtering. With the cigars you can shed them fairly coarse, leaving less fine bits to filter through in the end.
With a new shipment of glass bottles coming in this week, I'll be ramping up the extract que for sure. Going to attempt a super dark pressed navy flake and a rare Danish lemon Virginia blend that I've been squandering for some time now.
Viva la extraction!
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Agreed! Extracting my precious Cubanos makes them last far far longer.... you can get a LOT of exceptional e-juice out of one cigar. Though I still enjoy smoking a cigar every so often, since I started doing extractions with them, I find I'm starting to enjoy vaping them more. No more "bad burns", or bad rolls....just pure vaping pleasure.
I've also found that most cigar shops usually have a few cigars that have cracked wrappers, or are unsellable for some cosmetic reason (someone dropped or damaged them when pawing through the box). If you ask, they will usually have a few around, and will either sell them to you dirt cheap, or even give them to you free! Since you are going to chop them up anyway, the physical damage makes no difference whatsoever. My local shop knows I do extracts now, and saves some of the discards for me when I stop by. Never hurts to ask.
Enjoy
Agreed! Extracting my precious Cubanos makes them last far far longer.... you can get a LOT of exceptional e-juice out of one cigar. Though I still enjoy smoking a cigar every so often, since I started doing extractions with them, I find I'm starting to enjoy vaping them more. No more "bad burns", or bad rolls....just pure vaping pleasure.
I've also found that most cigar shops usually have a few cigars that have cracked wrappers, or are unsellable for some cosmetic reason (someone dropped or damaged them when pawing through the box). If you ask, they will usually have a few around, and will either sell them to you dirt cheap, or even give them to you free! Since you are going to chop them up anyway, the physical damage makes no difference whatsoever. My local shop knows I do extracts now, and saves some of the discards for me when I stop by. Never hurts to ask.
Enjoy
That's a truly great set-up you have with your shop! You're right, nothing compares to the experience of smoking a great cigar, but the opportunity to essentially "preserve" a bit of that experience is really something exceptional. Once I plow through the selections I have waiting in my humidor, I might have to go to my local shop and give that a try.
There's only one tobacconist in Boston - L.J. Peretti's. It's been there since well before any of us were born. There's another in Cambridge, across from Harvard. I don't recall the name right now. That's it. I find it a lot less difficult to order online. It beats going to Park Square. The only thing I miss is one of their signature tobacco blends called Midnight. Strait Latakia and Vanilla. I smoked the hell outta that stuff for well over three years exclusively. I miss Edgeworth Red, another of my favorites.
I know, I know, why don't I extract Latakia and add Vanilla to it. I don't think it would taste the same. Midnight was ribbon cut and very moist. It had an oily texture from I'm guessing the Vanilla but I'm not sure.
I try to stay away from flavored, caked tobaccos but it's beginning to look like I'd be missing out on some great extracts. I'm steeping Tatiana Honey Flavored, Orlik Golden Sliced and Pinar del Rio Small Batch Reserve Maduro.
A month can go by very slow when one is steeping. The apprehension will killya.
I know, I know, why don't I extract Latakia and add Vanilla to it. I don't think it would taste the same. Midnight was ribbon cut and very moist. It had an oily texture from I'm guessing the Vanilla but I'm not sure.
I try to stay away from flavored, caked tobaccos but it's beginning to look like I'd be missing out on some great extracts. I'm steeping Tatiana Honey Flavored, Orlik Golden Sliced and Pinar del Rio Small Batch Reserve Maduro.
A month can go by very slow when one is steeping. The apprehension will killya.
That, in a nutshell, is why I do heat-assisted one-day macerations. LOL.
I assume you meant to type "cased" rather than "caked," although caked does have a certain poetic resonance.
At least a couple of the extracts I sent you are aromatics, which I presume to have been cased, but they're very subtle in their non-tobacco flavorings, and not at all "candied" or otherwise turned into "pipe tobacco for children." LOL.
Yeah, but you still gotta steep the juice afterwards. BTW Bill, your picnic basket should be in Nashua, NH by tonight.
Cased, caked, naval flakes, etc. Usually means they got flavoring by dipping or spraying before being put under compression. I am wary of what other additives might be in them.
Cased, caked, naval flakes, etc. Usually means they got flavoring by dipping or spraying before being put under compression. I am wary of what other additives might be in them.
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Best to just keep working on extractions to forget about the steeping of those that came before. I'm developing a nervous tick just thinking about the wait! I had a few samples of Peretti blends a friend sent me last winter. Park Square and Royal Blend I believe. Decent enough baccy's I just don't remember them being something to write home about.
The "oily-ness" you mention in that vanilla blend might actually be PG or in some cases sorbitol, which is used as a humectant and flavor carrier in many aromatic tobaccos.
You're going to love that Orlik when it's ready. I've actually added some french vanilla to my second batch of Orlik DIY juice, and the first few tastes were promising. I've been apprehensive about doing heavily cased tobacco extracts as well, but I'm sure it can't be much worse than actually smoking, so I've added a few to my list. The only one I've done so far is a Vanilla Cavendish with Latakia called "Shortcut to Mushrooms" from a shop in Denver. And dam...is it good. I've got some McClelland Dark Navy Flake that might prove to be the ultimate test. The stuff is so dense I could probably plug a hole in a sinking ship with just a few flakes.
I'm going to be starting the extraction for one of the blends that had me thinking about taking on this process in the first place. Esoterica's Penzance. It's a broken English flake that many consider the Holy Grail of it's kind. Though likely considered blasphemous in pipe smoking circles, it's a great candidate for a touch of added sweetness as well. Vanilla or Brown Sugar perhaps.
Just don't tell anyone...
Ah wth I may as well jump to the dark side with both feet. There are too many tempting choices out there. That Dark Navy Flake is calling to me.
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