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I thought you needed a permit or license to carry a VTR since it could be construed as a lethal weapon if you drop it on your foot fo example. Just kidding. But I have heard it's a little heavy.
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26n just doesn't cut the banana for me anymore...
Xobedriver w/mundy's wire always makes me giggle like a little kid.
Looks like an evil torture device... But the high TH + superbly balanced flavor just can't be matched.
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Xobedriver w/mundy's wire always makes me giggle like a little kid.
Looks like an evil torture device... But the high TH + superbly balanced flavor just can't be matched.
My name is Xobeloot, and my supreme vape is now.
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Here's my dumb question for the day:
I get around .7-.8 Ohms when I do a 3/2 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal on my gennies. Would twisting two strands of the same kanthal result in half the resistance? I don't necessarily want it THAT low, just a little bit lower.
I get around .7-.8 Ohms when I do a 3/2 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal on my gennies. Would twisting two strands of the same kanthal result in half the resistance? I don't necessarily want it THAT low, just a little bit lower.
Come on folks, does anyone here truely believe or have any way to gauge on some quantifiable level that twisting any wire will do anything but result in trivial differences, all things being equal -- no user error? To me, I just see a really cool looking coil grinder or if it's enlarged, some torture device 
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Here's my dumb question for the day:
I get around .7-.8 Ohms when I do a 3/2 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal on my gennies. Would twisting two strands of the same kanthal result in half the resistance? I don't necessarily want it THAT low, just a little bit lower.
Try a double stand but add an extra loop that should lower your resistance to 5 ohms and check it sometimes my math doesn't add up
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Worth a shot! I'll give that a try tomorrow if my Ithaka clone doesn't kill my hands first.
Come on folks, does anyone here truely believe or have any way to gauge on some quantifiable level that twisting any wire will do anything but result in trivial differences, all things being equal -- no user error? To me, I just see a really cool looking coil grinder or if it's enlarged, some torture device
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well its pretty simple, it halves your resistance so people who want to vape extreme sub ohm ....so run a quad coil with a single twisted wire...technically that's 8 coils . seen some crazy clouds with .1 ohm vaping. if that's the type of thing youre into atleast.
edit: other ways to do twisted wire too, I don't think ive seen a quad coil twisted, except a "twisted buny" build , just throwing that out there as an example. but ive seen 3 and 4 strand twisted wire dual coils. mundys magic wire just seems like to much to me. ill stick with the round wire twisted. just my view
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Come on folks, does anyone here truely believe or have any way to gauge on some quantifiable level that twisting any wire will do anything but result in trivial differences, all things being equal -- no user error? To me, I just see a really cool looking coil grinder or if it's enlarged, some torture device
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EVERYTHING changes when you build with twisted wire. Contact area, as well as how it's distributed being the greatest factor. Despite what some not-so-knowledgeable people will say, there's MUCH more to a coil than resistance. Is the difference quantifiable? Probably, yes. Is it worth the effort in machinery/equipment/man hours to actually TEST it? To most people, no, of course not.
A quad coil with twisted wire is NOT the same as 8 coils AT ALL... Please don't use the word "technically", then follow it with a bunch of made-up babble. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk.
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looks good man, what is the inner diameter of that? looks larger than a micro
all the vapor is produced by the surface of the wire, obviously. and a twisted wire will have a very different surface area and a different wick contact profile too, so twisted wire will be a different vape for sure. round twisted probably not as dramatic of a difference as something like mundy's wire which also adds to the equation many facets and orifices and a much greater surface area. if I had to guesstimate I would say that mundywire probably has at least 8 times the surface area compared to a single wire wrap of the same approx size. it really enhances the flavor output. round twisted won't increase the surface area as much but still can be 2-3X the surface area depending
all the vapor is produced by the surface of the wire, obviously. and a twisted wire will have a very different surface area and a different wick contact profile too, so twisted wire will be a different vape for sure. round twisted probably not as dramatic of a difference as something like mundy's wire which also adds to the equation many facets and orifices and a much greater surface area. if I had to guesstimate I would say that mundywire probably has at least 8 times the surface area compared to a single wire wrap of the same approx size. it really enhances the flavor output. round twisted won't increase the surface area as much but still can be 2-3X the surface area depending
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Its a 2mm drill bit as someone recommended. I have 7 wraps of 26g kanthal on it, reads up .65ohms
So far Im liking the cooler vape, clean taste and nice flavor,. Only cons I have is it produces less vapor. Im guessing the way I stuffed the cotton in the coils. I tried a little bit of cotton, medium, and a lot, but its still the same
2 mm is a bit large and not really considered a micro. if I may suggest, next time trying a 1/16th bit which is ~1.5mm, this little .5 mm difference can make a big difference.
Thanks for the info, Ill try it tonight. So Im guessing Ill do 8 or 9 wraps to stay between .6ohms - .7ohms correct?
I don't have 26ga so not so sure but that sounds about right, one or 2 more to make up for the smaller dia should do it I think
I believe it was me that suggested 2mm... I have switched ALL of my coils to around 2mm, up from "micro" status, and don't see myself going back anytime soon. The wicking is FAR superior!
^^^ Thanks for chiming in!
How Bout the vapor production though, noticed any difference?
How Bout the vapor production though, noticed any difference?
It's given me better vapor (even if only slightly) thanks to the better wicking. It also allows a slightly lower resistance thanks to better nic goo delivery. I've found it's also much more consistent than a smaller coil from initial dripping to nearing dry... less of a flavor/vapor difference. For me, this means you have to be more careful of when to re-drip, as it's harder to tell when your wick is getting dry and a bit easier to scorch your wick... but it's a quick adaptation to make, and well worth it IMO.
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