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Just got an ipv4 and have been playing with ni200 builds. here is my latest and prettiest. 12 wraps of 28G on a screw that is a touch over 3.5mm. Ohmd out at .15 in my Twisted Messes rda and juiced iwth Charlies Chalk Dust "Head Banging Boogie" Set at 400F at 45 Joules.

 

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3 Strands of 26 gauge wrapped with decored 30 gauge clapton wire. Came out to .22 ohms and vapes pretty nicely. A nice warm and moist vape with lots of flavor and big clouds. I would have done an additional wrap, but that's the only "good" length of the wire that came out without knots and kinks.

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you are not ingesting nicotine by spitback; most nicotine in vaping is absorbed in the mouth, so with spit back you are getting those drops on your mouth and thus absorbing them there, there isn't enough liquid in the mouth to gulp it and get it to your stomach.
and by ingesting it means drinking more than a vape worth of nicotine, it is almost imposible to drink .3ml of any liquid, try it there is not enough to make a gulp, so the ingesting means much much more amount of liquid
What if you swallow after taking a hit? I do that sometimes because the vape is so wet and flavorful.


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What if you swallow after taking a hit? I do that sometimes because the vape is so wet and flavorful.


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I'm no expert here but I think the amount is so minute that it'll never reach the stomach, it will get absorbed on its way.

as I said it is not bad to ingest nicotine , the difference is that while you vape .05mg (just a guess) of nicotine each vape you will drink a few mls of juice so that is much much higher concentration, just based on the quantity associated with drinking something
 

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New build I just had the idea for, I went for twisted 28 gauge quad kanthal micro coils. It's reading right at .12 ohms and I'm loving it. Compared to 24g micros this is a lot more pleasant of a vape for me. The twisted wire absorbs a lot of juice so it negates a little of the brutal throat hit I get from standard quad coil builds. And the flavor is pretty nice. Been managing 6+ second hits even at such such low ohm.
 

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I couldn't say really. The place I first saw drawing attention to dry burning was saying and still is, that oxidation is the issue and from what I gather from the forum kanthal is making more of it in the form of alumina(Al2O3). So from a non-scientific background and not knowing what and how much is in the actual vapor you could say nichrome maybe, but you don't know exactly. In any case let's not keep this going here, as I think I'm already looked at that I post here to discourage coil building and I'm not. I actually find some of the pics and builds quite skillful.

Edit: I do agree that, overall, should work on decreasing risks from e-cigs as much as possible. There is no comparison between an e-cig and a smoking cigarette and they must continue in trying to reach absolute terms i.e no risk
Where did you see this info?


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Hey JJ it is this one>> $10.22 Velocity Styled RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 304 stainless steel / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

i now have three of em, they work great and no probs apart from the usual soft post screws or grubs in this case, i just buy 50 ss grub screws and replace em before i use orelse sometimes the allen key gets stuck in the grub as you tighten if you kno wha i mean
That's my only real complaint with mine. I understand why they are needed in this specific case, but otherwise I hate them. Mine have already rounded off and I can't tighten my coils very much after only a month or so. Not a problem with the clone, just a problem with all allen head hex screws. I hate them in any application.

Also, do you know the specific size of these? Though mine isn't the clone from FastTech, it's probably the same size grubs. Do you have any good online sources for them? I found a site that has packs of 5 for like $4, but there are probably cheaper sources.
 

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So do you only use spaced coils? After reading a little bit I decided to try a new build in my Billow V2. I ripped out the "oxidized" claptons I had in and put in a dual spaced Kanthal build with no dry burning. I'm ....... The flavor sucks. I don't get how people say simple spaced standard unoxidized Kanthal coils have such great flavor. This is so lacking compared to claptons or even twisted wire that it angers me.


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So do you only use spaced coils? After reading a little bit I decided to try a new build in my Billow V2. I ripped out the "oxidized" claptons I had in and put in a dual spaced Kanthal build with no dry burning. I'm ....... The flavor sucks. I don't get how people say simple spaced standard unoxidized Kanthal coils have such great flavor. This is so lacking compared to claptons or even twisted wire that it angers me.


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:) well, welcome to healthy vaping. Haha. No! However, I understand your anger. And no, I don't use spaced coils, I make 'contact' coils as before, by hand, I just never dry burn them. I clean them a couple of times under tap water with a trimmed toothbrush before I replace them all together. You can see now why I get the loud pops I mentioned before. Spaced coils are what Imeo advises for accurate temp control, which is not my interest for now. Until something better comes along this will do for me
 

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:) well, welcome to healthy vaping. Haha. No! However, I understand your anger. And no, I don't use spaced coils, I make 'contact' coils as before, by hand, I just never dry burn them. I clean them a couple of times under tap water with a trimmed toothbrush before I replace them all together. You can see now why I get the loud pops I mentioned before. Spaced coils are what Imeo advises for accurate temp control, which is not my interest for now. Until something better comes along this will do for me
So you never burn them so they probably don't heat evenly?

You know one time I built a spaced fused clapton and when I dry burned it it glowed evenly from the get. I wonder if I can build another and just wick it without burning at all.


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I couldn't really have a very accurate assumption of how they heat. I know I don't feel any change in the taste vapor or TH so I suppose it heats as even as before. And yes before when I was dry burning them before wicking, there were no hot spots, I was just doing it for the sake of checking. As far as I'm aware the real shorts and hot stops come with the tensioned contact coils but I couldn't explain why because I never got into that.
 

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Yes, give it a go. When I get some wire I want to try this build. Spaced I guess.

All 34g Clapton
Triple twisted core
Ohms out at 1.70 lol
Heats up quick at 12w (4.5v)

Flavor and vapor production rock. I could probably squeeze another 3-5 watts out of it just fine.

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So you never burn them so they probably don't heat evenly?

You know one time I built a spaced fused clapton and when I dry burned it it glowed evenly from the get. I wonder if I can build another and just wick it without burning at all.


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as far as i know and understand. "closed" coils will always be a little bit of a finesses game. slightly spaced so they don't touch works just fine for me. then again it depends on variables i may not be aware of. i did this exactly with my transformer coil (28GA cores claptoned with 32GA and fused with 30GA ribbon all Kanthal A-1). i did not try to pinch them tight. i left room in between the wraps. it is awesome for me. no ....ing around with tweezers to work out the shorts. just wick it and vape it. wick it, wick it good.
 
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@saigonshredder74 Vaporchase subscriber?
You know one of the guys who was talking about the oxidation issue was saying that both Kanthal and Nichrome are dangerous and neither should be used for vaping at all. He says that the only safe metals for vaping are stainless steel and titanium.


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You know one of the guys who was talking about the oxidation issue was saying that both Kanthal and Nichrome are dangerous and neither should be used for vaping at all. He says that the only safe metals for vaping are stainless steel and titanium.


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Hmmm stainless steel, and titanium. Maybe I am wrong, but I have messed with stainless steel items in the past for a craft project in the past, it doesnt manipulate well, and titanium would be prohibitively expensive to vapers like myself.
 

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