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rbrylawski

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You should try going under ground a couple of miles to help bring someone out with a broken leg.

I'd die of fright or choke on my own throw up, so you'd have to rescue the person with the broken leg, then bring in a casket for me......
 

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First your NSS group needs to get down there before doing the tight long belly and back crawls that you can get stuck and injured in. This is the fun easy part.
 
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Join the NSS, learn how to survey (make a map) of newly found caves. Then you can learn how to do cave rescue. The rescue at Letchigilla was difficult. I know I spelled that wrong.

The National Speleological Society <-- NSS website, it will tell you how to join and learn to do this. If is fun going some place no human has been before when a new one is found, new ones are found everyday. There are NSS grottos in almost every state. Nothing stopping you from joining.

Oh, your gear will get scratched up, I promise.
 
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First your NSS group needs to get down there before doing the tight long belly and back crawls that you can get stuck and injured in. This is the fun easy part.

Wow.....it's a great picture. But just looking at it and I threw up just a little in my mouth. Yes I did!
 

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Wow.....it's a great picture. But just looking at it and I threw up just a little in my mouth. Yes I did!

You can learn to do this. You might need to work on your grip strength and climbing a bit but you can learn to do this and the NSS can teach you and one day you can help map a newly found cave.
 
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You can learn to do this. You might need to work on your grip strength and climbing a bit but you can learn to do this and the NSS can teach you and one day you can help map a newly found cave.

Oh, I know I couldn't. I have the worst fear of heights. The worst I'm telling you. I can't climb a ladder. I can't go out on someone's balcony if they live on a high floor. I came to terms with my limitations long ago. I just wouldn't put myself in a situation I know I'd HAVE to be rescued from. That there my friend is one such situation.
 

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Oh, I know I couldn't. I have the worst fear of heights. The worst I'm telling you. I can't climb a ladder. I can't go out on someone's balcony if they live on a high floor. I came to terms with my limitations long ago. I just wouldn't put myself in a situation I know I'd HAVE to be rescued from. That there my friend is one such situation.
I can't do heights either - I have the sense of falling forward.
 

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Wow.....it's a great picture. But just looking at it and I threw up just a little in my mouth. Yes I did!

Notice the three of them in the photo are using good line distance? It's safer that way, you don't affect the others as much during your decent. In the NSS we call that being on rope.

I am a member but have not been active for about 5 years, I started doing other things to stay in shape. I think I will become active again.
 
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Notice the three of them in the photo are using good line distance? It's safer that way, you don't affect the others as much during your decent. In the NSS we call that being on rope.

I am a member but have not been active for about 5 years, I started doing other things to stay in shape. I think I will become active again.

I would be the only person who's rope that couldn't possibly break, would break. The only way I could be in that cave would be in an Elevator with a floor and ceiling and 4 solid walls. That I could handle!
 
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The closest I came to dying was not underground but on Mt Washington in the Eastern USA. That is the only time I thought I was not going to come home alive during my outdoor adventures. I find normal exercise boring so I have to do activities that don't look like exercise to stay in shape. It's a lot more fun than being a gym rat.
 
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I can't do heights either - I have the sense of falling forward.

EXACTLY! When one has fear of heights, one feels as if they are being drawn to the edge and will fall over the edge. My knees tremble and I have to get away as fast as I can.
 

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Is it really heights when you are below sea level and the ground is way above you?

I would have no sense of being below sea level. All I would see is the height [or depth] of that cave. Being below sea level would not help me in any way.
 

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Here is a 3d map of Lechuguilla where a difficult rescue was done. One is a side view and the other is above looking down. This was a really rough rescue, a lot of NSS grotto's were flown in for this. It is not fully surveyed yet (mapped). This probably shows over a hundred miles of passages.

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Is it really heights when you are below sea level and the ground is way above you?

When you're at a particular level, and the end of your potential plummet is a heart-stopping, bowels-emptying distance below you, yes it is still heights. Even if the start of your demise begins at -83 feet.
 
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