Well played...I actually had to look up Godwin's Law. That was some pretty cool stuff and I'm going to have to remember that one. The Google-fu was strong in me today.It was worth a shot.
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oh krap chit
this debate about people trying to convince themselves the Vamo is any where near as good as Provari is still going
apparently it is a losing battle ,since this thread is still active
this debate about people trying to convince themselves the Vamo is any where near as good as Provari is still going
apparently it is a losing battle ,since this thread is still active
Nah. We're back to the old, "Can the Vamo keep a steady coil temperature (on anything but a Genisis wick setup)?" discussion. That and everything else was already hashed out to almost everyone's satisfaction.
What's funny is a thread started to prove the superiority of a $200 American made device over a much cheaper Chinese made product.
Newsflash: Vamo owners know the Provari is a superior product. It should be for the price and quality manufacturing.
It was started to compare the chipsets between the two devices. The externals and build quality were irrelevant to the op's discussion.
Aesthetics and non tangible factors (yay, made in the USA!) are important to the purchasing decision - no argument there. Strip all of that away and just look at performance and I maintain that there isn't a heck of a lot of difference. Tempted to do a "Pepsi Challenge" thing with some of my vaping buddies. Put on a blindfold, set the Provari and the Z at 4.5 volts and use the same carto tank. I would of course hold the device and push the button to eliminate giving anything away. Wonder how that kind of thing would turn out?
ON EDIT - a few hours after the original post. This drives me NUTS. Over the past week or so I have been testing this theory and have had both my Provari (lovely silver with blue LED) and my SS Z-Max charged and with me at my desk. I want to be able to make a definitive judgment (yes, I can be indecisive) so that one of these bad boys can be "the one"
I just can't seem to do it.
From a performance standpoint, I honestly cannot tell a difference. They both provide a rousing vape given equivalent carto tanks. The ProVari does feel "sturdier" (as in heavier). The Z is more comfortable in my hand and thinner. I like the feel of the button on the Z but I also like that the button on the ProVari glows a pretty blue. VW on the Z is a nice feature as I rotate tanks that have varying resistances in their respective cartomizers but ultimately, it's a "meh" - a few steps up or down on the ProVari and it's all the same.
Did I mention the pretty blue glowing fire button on the ProVari?
The net for me is that I wish that I could see a more definitive difference between the two overall. If I could, it would be easier to donate/sockdrawer/define as "backup" one or the other. But I cannot. Sometimes I prefer the ProVari, other times I prefer the Z based on the aesthetic factor alone. They both vape like little smokehouses.
ON EDIT - a few hours after the original post. This drives me NUTS. Over the past week or so I have been testing this theory and have had both my Provari (lovely silver with blue LED) and my SS Z-Max charged and with me at my desk. I want to be able to make a definitive judgment (yes, I can be indecisive) so that one of these bad boys can be "the one"
I just can't seem to do it.
From a performance standpoint, I honestly cannot tell a difference. They both provide a rousing vape given equivalent carto tanks. The ProVari does feel "sturdier" (as in heavier). The Z is more comfortable in my hand and thinner. I like the feel of the button on the Z but I also like that the button on the ProVari glows a pretty blue. VW on the Z is a nice feature as I rotate tanks that have varying resistances in their respective cartomizers but ultimately, it's a "meh" - a few steps up or down on the ProVari and it's all the same.
Did I mention the pretty blue glowing fire button on the ProVari?
The net for me is that I wish that I could see a more definitive difference between the two overall. If I could, it would be easier to donate/sockdrawer/define as "backup" one or the other. But I cannot. Sometimes I prefer the ProVari, other times I prefer the Z based on the aesthetic factor alone. They both vape like little smokehouses.
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OH MY GOD !! how long did it take you to find that ?? really now
imo,,this really wasn't a fair test,,testing a Provari against any Chinese made mod is not a fair test,plain and simple
100 pages !!
Throw them both at a brick wall five times. Pick the one that still works.
332 posts on 9 pages... with more room on this page for posts from the looks of it.
you must have changed to 36 posts per page to only be at the ninth page,i'm standard setting on page 34
as i can see more hz- 800hz provari- mean smoother vaping, reduce the ''rattlsnake''phenomenon and overall give better performance.
Do we know the hz of the dna 20d and nivel?
Do we know the hz of the dna 20d and nivel?
How do you tell the 800hz gives better vaping performance by using an oscilloscope? Does an o-scope vape? Does a readout show up on the 'scope that flashes this vapes better?
What this line of pro-Provari argument ignores is thermodynamics of the coil itself which operates as an analog device. The coil does not switch instantaneously between a heated and cold state 37 or 800 times per second. Rather, a coil heats and cools over time and smooths the effect of pulsed DC used in PWM devices.
If you buy this line of argument against the effect of PWM on heating coils used in vaping then you must accept the fact that a $20 mechanical mod like a Bolt by Smoktech is going to provide far superior vapor than a Provari. The Bolt eliminates the pulsed DC entirely providing a pure DC output to the coil.
What this line of pro-Provari argument ignores is thermodynamics of the coil itself which operates as an analog device. The coil does not switch instantaneously between a heated and cold state 37 or 800 times per second. Rather, a coil heats and cools over time and smooths the effect of pulsed DC used in PWM devices.
If you buy this line of argument against the effect of PWM on heating coils used in vaping then you must accept the fact that a $20 mechanical mod like a Bolt by Smoktech is going to provide far superior vapor than a Provari. The Bolt eliminates the pulsed DC entirely providing a pure DC output to the coil.
You should experience the power and smoothness of OKR-T/6 mods - 600kHz modulation frequency. That's almost 800 times faster than Provari. For all intents and purposes, smooth as a mech.
so there is no need to check the hz of a pwm device before buying it?
what makes vaping smoother?
what makes vaping smoother?
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