PTB Straw Mod: PTB Made Easy!

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kristin

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Unless I'm mistaken I believe I've read that the Nhaler HV liquids are mostly VG based, or at least contain quite a bit of it. The only way I can get that much vapor out of my own creations is to add a lot of VG.

I have samplers of most of these and 30mls of a few, and they are very thick.

Going to be trying this mod this weekend, been using many other PTB's just not sure on how big to make the slits on the straw.

Hmmm..didn't think of that! Would explain why they are so thick, lol! I learn something new every day. Thank you, grasshopper! :thumb:

(I make the notches about 1/4" - no more than 1/3 the length of the cart.)

Just wanted to give you all an update on my previous question about this mod working in a m702 cart (although it seems like I'm the only one in the world who doesn't have a 510 lol).

I'm pleased to report that this works great in my little 702 carts! ^^ no leaking whatsoever (as long as you don't overfill it). You don't even need any straws at all as the inner carts or so tiny, they hold the PTB in place just fine. I basically just have to remove the inner cart and stuff the PTB inside with a tweezer, cut off the excess and put the inner cart back in. Works great so far ^^ no leaking, good vapor, drains pretty well! ^^

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Just wanted to say that I really like this mod. The others that I've tried were just too messy and difficult with arthritis in my fingers. Thank you, Kristin.

BTW, the straws I used came from Baker's Square with my beverages there. Perfect size for the 510 cart and basically free. ;-)
Awww...glad I could help!! :D
 

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I used before this ZFM mod and it was ok but when you must change the atomizer you must change the silicone too and it's hard to fit the new one right. This mod it's ok, no so much vapors like zfm, but acceptable. The strange is, with 4-5 draws before refill it is much more vapours. And after this the taste is bad, burn taste. What i must do to have more vapours like at the and. I use joye510.
Thank you. Scuse my english please.
 

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I don't get any bad/burnt taste with this cart mod, but I have heard that there is an issue right now with some new 510 atomizers, so I suspect that may be what you are experiencing.

I did the ZFM mod, as well and I don't see any reduction in vapor with this mod. My draws are pretty strong and I get at least 15-20 draws before having to refill. When I need to refill, it's always because it's empty.
 

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I've been using this mod for about 2 weeks now, and am getting a harsh / burnt taste after 1 or 2 draws after filling on my 510.
I've washed the filling, washed the cart, tried 3 different attys 1 of them new, using standard 3.7 volt bats, different juices. I have made 6 carts now, and have tried different lengths of straw etc.
Changed back to ADM to see what would happen and am not getting any of the harsh / burnt issues...
So what am I missing?

I really want this mod to work, I like the ADM, except that I have to pull out the filler to fill or top up.

Any thoughts??? :-x
 

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For some reason it's not wicking and the atty is srying out right away.

Are you using one or two pieces of the tea bag? Are you using Pyramid tea bags and not standard tea bags (Sorry, stupid question but it has happened in the past.) The only time I had it not wick right & dry out the atty is when I tried using the whole tea bag instead of 1/2. Are you cutting it flush with the end of the cart or are you cutting flush with the straw? (It should be flush with the end of the cart.) What size straw are you using? A 5mm (1/4") straw is best. Too narrow and it'll restrict the flow. Also, are you making sure not to cut or poke through the end of the teabag that goes in the cart? Are you filling it enough? Mine usually take 10 drops on average.

That's everything I can think of that may be causing your issue. I never get a burnt taste with this mod, when it's done right, so I don't know what else it could be!
 

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I first posted my success with this particular mod 3 weeks ago and I still keep coming back to it. The zero-filler-mod really has to be perfect and the dart-mod really works very well too, but I still come back to this one which is the easiest to refill and so simple it's almost foolproof. I use a 510.

One thing I do that may help some who are having trouble is I cut my straw to exactly 15mm. When I push the teabag into the cart, I also make sure that I'm not poking a hole in it and I make sure that it goes all the way in. Then I carefully remove my "pushing" tool while making sure that removing it does not pull the teabag out at all. Then (and here's my trick) I squeeze all the remaining part of the teabag between my thumb and forefinger and push it in really, really snug. When I do this, the teabag actually goes in another 1 to 2mm. Then I cut the end flush, and using my pushing tool I make sure that the flush end of the teabag I just cut is evenly distributed inside the opening of the cart. I already know that the bridge on my atty is going to push the middle of the teabag in about 2 or 3mm, so I visualize that in my mind and separate the middle a bit. This way the atty has less of a chance of crushing any part of the teabag back into the cart, but rather separates the folds, allowing those folds to envelope the bridge of the atty once mounted. (not trying to sound dirty here).

These teabag folds all now wrap themselves around my atty bridge and it seems to work just right! Still the best cart mod for me.

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@shortstuff nice idea with the slight update to the mod..I too love this mod and just dont have the patience or paper towels to constantly have to remove the cart mods to refill...your idea for adding a bit more PTB to the cart was something I was experimenting with anyway, as for some reason, the Joye Attys seem a bit different than the stock Janty's...a bonus ( at least it seems initially) is that I get even more drops per refill...damn, that Kristen and her PTB..Im brainwashed, no matter where I go or what im doing, I am looking to "one-up" this mod with different mats but cant beat it yet...sure the BFD and ZFM sound nice, but ive wasted more time and attys and mats that Im right back to my first favorite..Thanks to OP and you and anyone else that can make the best filler better in any way..:cool:
 
I just tried this and I think it's Great !!! One thing I do is always have 2 attys with full carts attached (I have the 510). I only take 3 or 4 puffs, then I change to the other atty with cart attached. I'm finding I get better vape than staying on the same one until it's empty. That way I don't overheat my atty and ruin them. So far I'm 9 days smoke free woohoooo !!!
 

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I just tried this and I think it's Great !!! One thing I do is always have 2 attys with full carts attached (I have the 510). I only take 3 or 4 puffs, then I change to the other atty with cart attached. I'm finding I get better vape than staying on the same one until it's empty. That way I don't overheat my atty and ruin them. So far I'm 9 days smoke free woohoooo !!!

You make a couple of valid points here, one being that by changing your atty with cart attached so often, you are not only reducing the possibility of overheating an atty, but at the same time you are giving that atty/cart assembly a rest and time to allow the e-juice to wick to its full potential. So many times members have posted that they are tired of only a few hits/vapes then that awful "burnt" taste. Well, for me anyway, I make sure that I wait at least a minute between vapes to give my atty time to cool a bit and to allow enough time for the e-juice to wick onto the atty well.

It's just the nature of the beast in that you have to allow a little time for the wicking of the e-juice to occur, the simple physics of capillary action. Put a few drops of water on a plate, then stick the corner of a tissue just touching the water. Now watch the water as it wicks into the tissue and you can see that it will gradually wick up every bit of water, but it takes a little time.

By the way, Welcome Aboard and Congratulations on your 9th day!

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You make a couple of valid points here, one being that by changing your atty with cart attached so often, you are not only reducing the possibility of overheating an atty, but at the same time you are giving that atty/cart assembly a rest and time to allow the e-juice to wick to its full potential. So many times members have posted that they are tired of only a few hits/vapes then that awful "burnt" taste. Well, for me anyway, I make sure that I wait at least a minute between vapes to give my atty time to cool a bit and to allow enough time for the e-juice to wick onto the atty well.

It's just the nature of the beast in that you have to allow a little time for the wicking of the e-juice to occur, the simple physics of capillary action. Put a few drops of water on a plate, then stick the corner of a tissue just touching the water. Now watch the water as it wicks into the tissue and you can see that it will gradually wick up every bit of water, but it takes a little time.

By the way, Welcome Aboard and Congratulations on your 9th day!

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Thank you:thumbs:
 

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I'm so happy that this is working for people! :thumbs: It's still my everyday cart setup!

JoJo, that's a good idea about the atty/cart backups. I use a dedicated atty for each flavor, so I don't have to clean out the atty and wait for it to dry.

Unfortunately, they don't make a convenient way to carry all of this stuff with you on a daily basis. So keep your eye out - custom carrying cases are on their way! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/65232-custom-travel-cases.html
 

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Hey,
Love this mod, I have posted here recently about leaking issues and this may sound really dumb, but I'll ask anyway.
This really works great when I do it right. I can make up a bunch and when using them at home (usually with a pt) They work wonders. When I take a couple to work, I have to go outside to 'smoke' and being that it's winter in Bos, it is usually below freezing and for some reason that's when I get the leaking issue. Is there any reason for me to believe that the liquid ( dekang ) which is thin already, acts differently vapeing outside?
I test these carts at night and can vape away and as soon as I use them at work they seem to flood.

ptb + dekang + subfreezing = problem?

I'm using a 510 manual. Can't seem to get a good vape out in the cold cold NE.
More user error on my part?? I just had to ask, thanks
 
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