PTB Straw Mod: PTB Made Easy!

[BanjoMan]

Finally got around to ordering some 510 attys to try with my Bartleby. It didn't take long to realize I needed to PTB the cart for it to work properly, but now I see why the 510 is so popular. The vapor and throat hit difference between the 901 and 510 is surprising. It's a little harsh for some juices, but it will definitely "wake up" any juice that doesn't perform well in the 901. The PTB packs tighter too, which seems to work better overall.

 

[UpInVapor]

I've been using this mod for about 2 weeks now, and am getting a harsh / burnt taste after 1 or 2 draws after filling on my 510.
I've washed the filling, washed the cart, tried 3 different attys 1 of them new, using standard 3.7 volt bats, different juices. I have made 6 carts now, and have tried different lengths of straw etc.
Changed back to ADM to see what would happen and am not getting any of the harsh / burnt issues...
So what am I missing?

I really want this mod to work, I like the ADM, except that I have to pull out the filler to fill or top up.

Any thoughts???

The problem didn't have anything to do with this mod at all. I was getting the harsh taste so much that I went straight to dripping and was getting it there as well.
My new set of attys seem to be high bridge, or at least higher bridge. My 510 carts were melting... I've trimmed down a few carts and so far so good!

Thanks again for the mod!

 

[kristin]

The problem didn't have anything to do with this mod at all. I was getting the harsh taste so much that I went straight to dripping and was getting it there as well.
My new set of attys seem to be high bridge, or at least higher bridge. My 510 carts were melting... I've trimmed down a few carts and so far so good!

Thanks again for the mod!

Whew! That's a relief! Glad you found the solution - and now we have something to suggest to folks who may be having the same issue!

 

[UpInVapor]

Unfortunately I'm still having the problem, but for sure it's not the mod!
Quite sure it's my new attys.
Have been posting in your
Everything you ever wanted to know about your 510 thread.

 

[kristin]

I have to order new attys soon - I hope I don't get any of those nasty ones!

 

[Shortstuff116]

I have to order new attys soon - I hope I don't get any of those nasty ones!

Oh oh. What did I miss Kristin?

 

[UpInVapor]

I have to order new attys soon - I hope I don't get any of those nasty ones!

Well i have to say that I'm using the "nasty" attys at this point without the heavy "burnt" issues. I just have to keep them VERY wet. To the point that I am keeping a napkin with my general travel kit at all times due to leakage. I have to vape much slower than I was previously, and am blowing through juice at an very fast rate... OK so I should probably just chuck them and buy some of the "generic" ones.

I just cant stand the thought of buying new ones with I have 10 that are new.

Where in the forum is the best place to check what the resistance etc. on the 510 attys should be. I'm buying a meter in the morning to start checking these.

 

[kristin]

Oh oh. What did I miss Kristin?

Apparently, there is a very large number of bad attys being sold lately. People are reporting them left and right - bad burnt taste no matter what they do. There is a discussion about it on the Everything You Wanted To Know About Your 510 thread.

 

[kristin]

Well i have to say that I'm using the "nasty" attys at this point without the heavy "burnt" issues. I just have to keep them VERY wet. To the point that I am keeping a napkin with my general travel kit at all times due to leakage. I have to vape much slower than I was previously, and am blowing through juice at an very fast rate... OK so I should probably just chuck them and buy some of the "generic" ones.

I just cant stand the thought of buying new ones with I have 10 that are new.

Where in the forum is the best place to check what the resistance etc. on the 510 attys should be. I'm buying a meter in the morning to start checking these.

Did you talk to the company who sold them to you about this issue? Just curious if they'd be willing to replace them. An atty that performs like that has to be malfunctioning and at $8-$11 a pop, that's not cheap!!

 

[UpInVapor]

Yes,
I've talked to TW who I purchased 2 multi packs of 5 from. They do not offer warranty on the multi packs due to the price per atty (understandable) but when I mentioned that 7 of the 10 were having the problem (including melting the carts!) they said to try them all and let them know. I haven't had the time to really get my ducks / attys in a row to finish testing.
So I'm not sure what if anything they will do. They did say that there was nothing they could do in general as they are not warrantied... But I'll call once have my final tally on both 5 packs.

 

[foretwoone]

I've been trying this mod along with just about every other one for the past two weeks since i got my 510. I have to say this is the easiest and most reliable mod i've yet done. One thing i have started to do different that helped alot is to pull out the "flower" after trimming it to cart length, keep it rolled up, and carefully put two frays on the end. It can also be done before inserting the PTB, just make a few small cuts along all four sides of the PTB square, then insert as normal. I'm noticing much faster wicking but still no leakage.

 

[farrar01]

Well, I didn't have any PTBs so I used regular TB. Have to say my PV is working with the TB A OK so far. Better than it was with the original FFB that was in my 901 carts when I got them.

 

[skeetr]

I'v shopped a few stores and can't find these tea bags. They have lipton just not in pyramid bags. Grrr. Gotta try it someday.

 

[kristin]

I'v shopped a few stores and can't find these tea bags. They have lipton just not in pyramid bags. Grrr. Gotta try it someday.

I've heard it works with regular tea bags, but haven't tried it myself.

Do you have a Walmart Superstore nearby? I got mine in a small town Walmart. You have to look closely, though. They are usually on the bottom shelf and hard to spot. I missed them the first few times I looked.

 

[kristin]

I've been trying this mod along with just about every other one for the past two weeks since i got my 510. I have to say this is the easiest and most reliable mod i've yet done. One thing i have started to do different that helped alot is to pull out the "flower" after trimming it to cart length, keep it rolled up, and carefully put two frays on the end. It can also be done before inserting the PTB, just make a few small cuts along all four sides of the PTB square, then insert as normal. I'm noticing much faster wicking but still no leakage.

After trying a lot of other mods, this is still my "go to" cart mod. It's just too easy and reliable!

I also fray the ends a bit. I just snip the flower end with a scissors a few times.

 

[Shortstuff116]

Recently I tried something just slightly different. I make this mod as per instructions using the 1/2 piece of PTB and once inserted I always pinch what is left between my thumb and forefinger and gently push it in as far as it will go. But now instead of cutting the teabag flush with the edge of the cart, I cut it so that now it sticks out just about 1/2 mm outside the edge of the cart and have found that this actually seems to work even better for me. After some use, I end up with a perfectly formed yet deeper "well" in the PTB and the part that sticks out beyond the cart just ever so little seems to envelope the atty bridge so well that I have yet to have one flood on me yet.

As an added bonus, instead of refilling by dropping one drop at a time into the cart with a little time to allow each drop to soak in, I now put just the very tip of the dropper nipple just touching the edge of PTB that sticks up out of the cart and just "squeeze" the juice in very slowly using the capillary action until it starts to show full. This actually refills the cart very quickly for me anyway.

Just thought I'd mention it.

 

[skeetr]

I've heard it works with regular tea bags, but haven't tried it myself.

Do you have a Walmart Superstore nearby? I got mine in a small town Walmart. You have to look closely, though. They are usually on the bottom shelf and hard to spot. I missed them the first few times I looked.

I do have one nearby, thanks kristin.

 

[BanjoMan]

Just posting to confirm that this method works well with the newer 510 mega xl carts.

Also, my wife has taken a liking to the 801 and I find this method works well (less straw) if I stack 3 half-sheets on top of each other before I push them into the cartridge.

p.s. If you have a Food Lion in your area you should be able to find the Pyramid Tea there.

 

[candre23]

Just tried this for the first time today, and I am definitely a convert. Liquid capacity is still about the same as with poly, but it hits much better. Damn near as well as direct dripping. I used a slightly different method than Kristen (roll, fold the roll in half, then cut to fit and fray the end), but this guide was still quite helpful. Thanks!

 

[kristin]

Glad to hear it's working for you!

Just as a tip - that fold you have may hold more liquid than necessary & will trap it and gunk up over time. The object of the "flower" with the pointed end is to have as few folds to trap liquid as possible and the channels direct the liquid to the atty. It also takes less room in the cart, leaving more room for more liquid. (Probably why you don't see increased capacity.)

Poly will take up to 10 drops at first, then quickly reduce down to 2-3 at most on refills, unitl you replace the poly.

The PTB, as I designed it, will only slowly reduce to 8-9 drops on refills, so needs less refills & "topping off." It lasts much longer - before you just have to give it a quick rinse and dry and pop it back in - you don't even need to use a pointy object to reinsert it, because it retains it's shape after being in the cart a while.

After using the rolled/frayed method myself, I developed this one to counter the liquid being trapped and reducing wicking and capacity. Not to toot my own horn, but I feel this is an improvement on the rolled/frayed method for those reasons.