PTB Straw Mod: PTB Made Easy!

[a2dcovert]

Kristin,

Are you using a stock 510? I'm using the original RSP with the PB material with great success on my Protege. I can not only vape the cart dry I have twice had to reprime the atty after refilling. The reservoir system really works and makes my traveling a lot easier.

I am working on your additional mods to try and get the same performance at 4.2 & 5 volts. I've been to 5 major grocery stores in my town and can't find the PTBs. I'll keep looking to see if I can get my hands on them.

I'm going to make another mix of juice today and I'll try and thin the liquid even more with PGA to see if I can make it wick easier. RSP at higher voltage is a little more of a challenge.

 

[Pete54]

Verrrrrry interesting. I made a couple of these. One with thin liquid and one with thick. I'm vaping the thin liquid right now and so far this works really well. I thought it would leak out but so far, so good. I'll report back after a few refills.

 

[eclypse]

Welp, it was like taking a step back in time using the PTB again.

This time i used the half piece. Used the pair of needle nose pliers i got free with order from nhaler.com to shove it in the straw. Added 14 drops of Nhaler Cow Tail juice.. Messed around with it to get out the air bubbles i seen in the middle opening of the PTB. Inserted it into my atty and strated to puff awhile.. Noticed right off the back it was flooding the atty. I hurried up and pulled off the cart and blew out the atty a little and then blew out the air ways on the cart. Inserted again and started puffing.. Still fooding.. tried to puff threw it this time as i thought it would be just a little bit. Then i set it down for a few to injoy my other cig with the plug.

Came back to it and took a few puffs to get it going.. Finally started to vape good though i had to suck on it really hard.

Its ok.. if you like PTBs. It looks just like the old style rolled PTB mod in the cart. Obviously alot easier to do then rolling it so i'd say you got a successfull PTB mod.

Though as usual, you'll have the same probs with taking it out to rinse the PTB.. all the layers in the cart holding juice from wicking and leakage.. and ofcourse the obvious making the juice rez a whole lot smaller with the straw and PTB.


Now i just wondering why your going back to the PTB again? If your fustrated with your plug try my blue foam FOR ONCE! lol.

I swallowed my pride and tried the straw mod.. which becuase of that i discovered how to use a straw for my 2x 510 cart mod! hehe that would'nt of happend without trying the straw.

So now its your turn to try my freakin mod all ready! BUY THE DAMN BLUE FOAM! I got my 5 bags in the mail the other day from that place i sent you the link to back when in PM.. BUY IT ALREADY!

EDIT: By no way was i being not honest about trying your mod or Biased in anyway.. I could on camera try both if you like.. load up 2 carts and 2 attys.. throw them in a closed box and shake it up and grab them and load them up on a batt.. try them out and tell you which one is which pretty fast hehe.

 

[SCOTTYBALLS]

Well im back to the ADM/polly again it was just to inconsistant one second it was flooded the next it was dry.. Also I noticed when I took the cart off the ptb plug was smashed up had to keep taking it out and re fluff the stuff.. however this is with the plug i made with the pictures not quiet how kristin dose it...

 

[JohnandMe]

Okay, took out the blue foam plug and am trying this Kristin. The taste is good. The first 4 draws flooded my atty a little..no biggie. I was mostly worried about getting a mouth full, but that hasn't happened. Since then it has been working well. The draws can be a little inconsistent, but not too bad. I've had zero leakage..which is always good.

Oh, and I used a open paperclip to shove it in there and that worked good also. I also used the paperclip to get out any air pockets...the open paperclip is a very versatile tool I tell ya.

 

[kristin]

Eclypse, I'll try the blue foam once you settle on a method, I promise! You just haven't had a reliable plug with it yet.

I'm not surprised you were flooding with the PTB Straw mod - 14 drops is too much. Mine are 10-12 tops. I haven't had ANY flooding. I went back to the PTB because it's the only filler, besides the polyfill & BP, that doesn't taste rancid to me after a little use.

Are you guys making sure to get the tweezers ALL the way in and then spreading out the layers?

Kevin - I use Joye 510 parts only.

Scotty - try it my way once. I have had a consistant vape, no flooding at all. It does get a bit smashed in the middle, but it doesn't seem to affect the flow at all.

 

[kristin]

Okay, took out the blue foam plug and am trying this Kristin. The taste is good. The first 4 draws flooded my atty a little..no biggie. I was mostly worried about getting a mouth full, but that hasn't happened. Since then it has been working well. The draws can be a little inconsistent, but not too bad. I've had zero leakage..which is always good.

Oh, and I used a open paperclip to shove it in there and that worked good also. I also used the paperclip to get out any air pockets...the open paperclip is a very versatile tool I tell ya.

To avoid flooding, make sure to separate & spread the layers and don't put more than 10-12 drops in.

Also, don't prime the atty with extra liquid, you guys, because this wicks so well, if you already have 1-2 drops on the atty, it'll be too much at first.

 

[JohnandMe]

Yeah, I think I added one to many drops. I will be lowering it on my refill, but so far I am liking this mod. I really really really like that I dont have to take anything out to refill. The more I use this mod, the more I like it.

The layers actually spread very nicely using the point of the paperclip to shove the PTB in the straw. By the time I got the paperclip tip to the bottom, the PTB had made a wonderful little 'flower' formation around it.

 

[kristin]

Kristin,

Are you using a stock 510? I'm using the original RSP with the PB material with great success on my Protege. I can not only vape the cart dry I have twice had to reprime the atty after refilling. The reservoir system really works and makes my traveling a lot easier.

I love the RSP mod, but I dislike having to remove the plug to refill and that the plug would get sucked into the atty when it gets dry.

 

[Slickstick]

Eclypse, I'll try the blue foam once you settle on a method, I promise! You just haven't had a reliable plug with it yet.

I'm not surprised you were flooding with the PTB Straw mod - 14 drops is too much. Mine are 10-12 tops. I haven't had ANY flooding. I went back to the PTB because it's the only filler, besides the polyfill & BP, that doesn't taste rancid to me after a little use.

Are you guys making sure to get the tweezers ALL the way in and then spreading out the layers?

Kevin - I use Joye 510 parts only.

Scotty - try it my way once. I have had a consistant vape, no flooding at all. It does get a bit smashed in the middle, but it doesn't seem to affect the flow at all.

Kristin, there is nothing wrong with the blue plug. I like the ptb but I don't use it because of the taste and the flooding. You can get it right and it works great. But it ran out fast. Now that there is a flavor I like I might try your plug method. But I did not like the original method. I don't know about any other cart, but I can testify that if you use the blue foam on a 510, despite all the technicalities, all you have to do is wash it real good and stick it in there. Sometimes I fold them in half. I never use a straw or anything with it. If it floods, you put too much liquid in it topping it off. If you give it a try you will like it. It is what I use all the time. I am still looking for something more acceptable, But I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. If it were white instead of blue I probably wouldn't still be looking.

 

[kristin]

Yeah, I think I added one to many drops. I will be lowering it on my refill, but so far I am liking this mod. I really really really like that I dont have to take anything out to refill. The more I use this mod, the more I like it.

The layers actually spread very nicely using the point of the paperclip to shove the PTB in the straw. By the time I got the paperclip tip to the bottom, the PTB had made a wonderful little 'flower' formation around it.

Cool! I'm glad someone else is having success with it. It was so easy for me and I haven't had any problems with 2 different 510 carts and 2 different liquids - so I'm mystified by the negative feedback. I can only figure that some step is being missed or something - but these are really smart guys, so I doubt it's that. I just can't believe my 2 carts were simply a fluke!

 

[Pete54]

Well I followed Kristin's procedure exactly and I've had no flooding at all. I just refilled it and got 8 drops in. That's not bad because the blue foam was inconsistent for me. Sometimes it vaped dry, sometimes I got 6-8 drops in. The benefit of this is that I didn't have to replug it. I just added the juice. I've learned from past experience not to get too excited when something works great the first time. I'll keep it going and see what happens. So far this works great! Thanks Kristin.

 

[kristin]

Kristin, there is nothing wrong with the blue plug. I like the ptb but I don't use it because of the taste and the flooding. You can get it right and it works great. But it ran out fast. Now that there is a flavor I like I might try your plug method. But I did not like the original method. I don't know about any other cart, but I can testify that if you use the blue foam on a 510, despite all the technicalities, all you have to do is wash it real good and stick it in there. Sometimes I fold them in half. I never use a straw or anything with it. If it floods, you put too much liquid in it topping it off. If you give it a try you will like it. It is what I use all the time. I am still looking for something more acceptable, But I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. If it were white instead of blue I probably wouldn't still be looking.

I'm sure it makes a great plug, I believe Eclypse, but I think my biggest objection with ALL of the plug mods - including my own RSP mod - is having to take it out to refill it. Maybe if I order some more carts, so I can have more than one on hand at a time...

 

[kristin]

Well I followed Kristin's procedure exactly and I've had no flooding at all. I just refilled it and got 8 drops in. That's not bad because the blue foam was inconsistent for me. Sometimes it vaped dry, sometimes I got 6-8 drops in. The benefit of this is that I didn't have to replug it. I just added the juice. I've learned from past experience not to get too excited when something works great the first time. I'll keep it going and see what happens. So far this works great! Thanks Kristin.

And I do think the thickness of the liquid affects the refill. My peach high voltage is really thick (makes awesome vapor) but it only took 8-10 drops. My french vanilla coffee is thinner and takes 10-12 drops.

Also, you may not have vaped it dry. I found when the vapor starts to drop off, I gave it a couple shakes or "packed" it and it was good for 5-6 more draws before being empty and refilled better.

 

[jj2]

Well, I loaded two carts each for each atty I'm using with your new tea bad method Kristin.
Didn't use the straw at all but I use VG with a little McCormick's flavoring that has alcohol and PG in it. It's pretty thick.
So far so good: Actually, I'm kind of impressed. It even held more liquid than other filler.
I’m using the cart for the mini right now. It’s the smaller of the two and I want to see how long it last. I'll be ecstatic with a couple hours of constant puffing on the high power mod.
Hopefully it's a lot longer on the bigger carts.
The test will come in the following week. Until I go to clean the filler. To pass the test, it needs to hold up to just being reloaded without any hands on care.

 

[Pete54]

And I do think the thickness of the liquid affects the refill. My peach high voltage is really thick (makes awesome vapor) but it only took 8-10 drops. My french vanilla coffee is thinner and takes 10-12 drops.

Also, you may not have vaped it dry. I found when the vapor starts to drop off, I gave it a couple shakes or "packed" it and it was good for 5-6 more draws before being empty and refilled better.

I use the "shake the cart" method with the blue foam as well. I'd rather not have to. Actually, I could have gone a little further before refilling but lately as soon as I taste the slightest hint of "end-of-juice" I refill. I'm looking for consistency at this point. If I can find something that allows me to consistently vape 8 plus drops that would be a victory!

 

[nj1001]

This might be a noobie question, but here goes: carts are not good on HV devices... correct? Is there a cart mod that's acceptable to use on HV? What if I cut 1-2mm off the bottom of a 510 cart on the atty side to minimize melt factor while leaving just a slight amount of potential contact with whatever plug & the atty? Wouldn't this minimize melting cart potential under HV while maintaining wicking necessities to allow the cart to work, well, just so long as the carts actualy still long enough to maintain some contact with the atty-bridge? Either way, my greatest concern is with the first part as I'd like to know how to utilize a cart on HV so as to prevent constantly dripping.

 

[Dark Knight]

Hi Kristin, I have been following your mods and eclypes slug for a while now and have had some good results with both. The slug works with thick juice only. I have alot of Johnson Creek juice and so far I cant use it on any mod because it is so thin. After reading this post it inspired me to try something different. I used the two coffee straws on the 510, cut it to the lip, rolled up some tulle and put it in the straws. Drenched with chocolate truffle I then topped it off with a blue foam slug or a Buff Puff. Both work well but the BP seems to bring out the flavor more. I can finally have my JC! Lasts as long as the slug mod Thanks to you and eclypes and lets keep trying!! Tulle is a good sub for lipton pyramid tea bags but a bit more difficult to roll.

 

[Pete54]

This might be a noobie question, but here goes: carts are not good on HV devices... correct? Is there a cart mod that's acceptable to use on HV? What if I cut 1-2mm off the bottom of a 510 cart on the atty side to minimize melt factor while leaving just a slight amount of potential contact with whatever plug & the atty? Wouldn't this minimize melting cart potential under HV while maintaining wicking necessities to allow the cart to work, well, just so long as the carts actualy still long enough to maintain some contact with the atty-bridge? Either way, my greatest concern is with the first part as I'd like to know how to utilize a cart on HV so as to prevent constantly dripping.

I hope you're wrong about carts and HV devices. I'm waiting for my CR2 liFePo's to get here to start 6v vaping with my BB. One thing that I think is important is putting the cart on to match the atty as has been discussed before. I believe that minimizes the chance of burning the cart. As for keeping the atty wet, I believe that this cart mod or eclypse's would provide enough juice to the atty. If my batteries ever get here from china I'll find out!!

 

[SCOTTYBALLS]

Scotty - try it my way once. I have had a consistant vape, no flooding at all. It does get a bit smashed in the middle, but it doesn't seem to affect the flow at all.

Trying it now kristin, I even threw on fresh atty .. so far so good will report back when I finsih my cart of cappiccino