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hmlessalky

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My first Alpha package showed up today. Good shipping time.

First opinions:

Like stated before, the Rocket is smaller than I would have thought, and not as cheesy as it looks in the pictures. Actually a very nice sized device. As tall as a Bolt with extension and not as wide.

The Scorpions look nice. 1 of the 2 has the center pin way off center. It doesn't want to budge, but I checked it for clearance and with my MM to verify it was not shorting out. I really like the screw off top and ability to use any drip tip. If these perform as good as they look, this should be a really great product.

Thanks GV, I will begin putting these through their paces and give you any opinions I may have.

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I, too, received my first Alpha package today. Seriously FAST shipping.. ordered Saturday and delivered today in upstate NY.. I don't how they did that!!!
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This is my new Rocket.. it is indeed much better looking in person. The red is fabulous! And it has a smooth rubbery feel. The buttons are well placed and the display is large and easy to see. It fits perfectly in my hand and will also be perfect for in my pocket at work. Batteries came installed and charged so this was ready to go as soon as I opened the package. So far, I'm liking this far better than the lavatube I had.

I also got one of the Scorpion tanks. I unscrewed the top, filled with some juice.. very easy. A few drops in the center hole and am letting it sit for a bit before I try it. This combination will be going to work with me tonight, so more on their performance later.

So far,, EXTREMELY happy with my purchase. Oh,, and love the candy!
 

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I'm on my first tank full on the Scorpion. At first, I had Lasso in it and then realized I should put a juice I vape more frequently in, so I just switched it out at about 1ml left. Started with 2ml. I initially put one drop on the coil, let it sit for about 10 min and it was fine. Only needed a few puffs to get going. Plenty of vapor, but doesn't compare to some other cartos/tanks.

I don't feel like I can comment much on the flavor until I'm on my 2nd tank, though. I know how that stuff is. My Green Apple juice hasn't come through yet, so I'll keep vaping the Lasso from the wicks until it does. The Phoenix switches flavors pretty much instantly, but it's bottom coil with short wicks so you can't compare the two.

My first impression when I got it out of the package was that it felt kind of cheap. Like the materials aren't really high quality like other GV products. I can't quite pinpoint what it is that gives me that impression. I'm pretty sure the metal on the cap is plated. If you look on the inside where it slips over the inner post, that doesn't look like natural stainless steel. I know it's hollow and all, but it's just not heavy enough.

My post was also noticeably off kilter, but the cap fits just fine. I was a little concerned when I realized that there wasn't a rubber seal where the lid screws on, but it hasn't leaked at all. I have it on my lanyard and it's top heavy so it flips upside down all the time. It was actually upside down the entire time I was at the grocery store and I haven't had an instance of flooding or leaking.

Chain vaping is giving me dry hits. They're not too bad. I don't normally chain vape, but I figured I'd do it from time to time for testing's sake.

Fits the battery fine, airflow isn't too easy or too tight, but we all have our own preferences as far as that goes.

I'll give an update later on when I finish the tank and see how difficult it is to get the last of the juice vaped up!

(juice is 70pg/30vg 24mg nicotine, battery is standard 3.2v 650mah eGo)
 

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I too like the twist more then a fat bat, I purchased two of them and seem to be using them more then any of my other mods and pv's. Luvinit that Rocket look's really nice in red and def. looks alot smaller then I thought it was. I could not get one of them but I did purchase two of the Scorpians and am looking forward to trying them out. I am glad you are enjoying your new toys :).
 

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I am very much enjoying this red Rocket.. I do need to get some higher ohm cartos though,, I'm having issues with the tank. Filled it, put a few drops in the center and let it sit. First vape.. awesome!! By the third puff,, burnt. Couple more drops in the center,,, good. Few more puffs,, burnt. I can see that it's wicked up some of the juice, but is there a break in for these things? And it's leaking out the bottom.. I hope someone comes up with some tips for this thing, because I really like the design, and it looks pretty good on top of the rocket.. for now I'll have to go back to my DCT..
 

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OK, I have a confession...I am afraid to order this Rocket because it has stacked batteries. Isn't there a problem with stacked batteries exploding? Does having protected batteries 100% solve that problem??
tina.. I asked the very same thing before I bought this thing.. I've always heard bad things about stacked batteries. But for the price I decided to chance it. And everyone said it wasn't an issue. Honestly, it's like putting two D batteries in a flashlight. I've been using it for a few hours now and it works great! It doesn't get warm to the touch like my old lavatube used to with one battery in it. I really don't think it's going to an issue.. and the red is shweeeeeeet!
 

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OK, I have a confession...I am afraid to order this Rocket because it has stacked batteries. Isn't there a problem with stacked batteries exploding? Does having protected batteries 100% solve that problem??

Stacked batteries do have an increased chance of failure over a single one... and because there is twice the power stored in them there is a greater chance of damage that can be caused by them... But even single batteries carries a risk of venting or exploding expecially if they are overcharged or discharged to much... Adding protection to a battery does give another layer of protection but even that doesn't make them 100% safe... In fact, there is no battery including the common ones that do not come with some degree of danger.

So having said that... you can take precautions with batteries that help avoid the dangers they can have. Do not recharge a non-rechargeble battery, do not overcharge or over discharge the rechargable ones. If you have any reason to suspect a battery is damaged even it is just showing signs of slight swelling... discard it properly and replace with new ones. If using stacked batteries, replace them in sets... Recharge all batteries in a safe enviroment just in case there is a failure.

The above safety issues have always existed with all battery types... it is just now that the rechargable batteries are becoming more common that people are starting to become aware of these issues but they have always existed and more than likely the warning labels have always mentioned these types of things...
 

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OK, I have a confession...I am afraid to order this Rocket because it has stacked batteries. Isn't there a problem with stacked batteries exploding? Does having protected batteries 100% solve that problem??

Take care of the batteries right, and you shouldn't have a problem. I think the deal with stacked batteries is that if something goes wrong with one of them - undercharged, or overcharged, or damaged, or the charge doesn't match the second batt - the problem is is exacerbated by the presence of the second batt.

Just use a good charger, good batteries, and take sensible precautions.

And if you are really paranoid, when you press the button for the first time, hold it at arm's length - these things seem to either go bad on the first "fire", or not at all... :D
 

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OK, got my Scorpions today - fast shipping again, and thanks for the candy, Dan, I'm loving these things. :D

First impression of the form factor: It looks very nice on an eGo, the center tube covering the wicks gives it a finished look, the metal feels like aluminum and a bit on the dinky side, the tube also feels thin, you can deform it easily with finger pressure. However, the "light-built" thing is not all that important if it works well, and the price corresponds to the quality of materials. Certainly wouldn't stop me from getting it if it works right.

The threads on the top are fine, no problems there. The post is a bit ....-eyed, but again, who cares if it doesn't disturb performance, it's not really noticeable from the outside. Filling is easy, even with a fat dropper that comes with the GV bottle.

I filled it with Caramel Apple from GV: 70/30 PG/VG, nice strong flavor (btw, it's even better with a month or so steeping :)), and I know it flows really well, it has never given a problem with any carto/clearo. So - an easy first run. Dropped 5 drops into the coil area. Some seepage out the bottom at first - meaning I dropped too many drops. LOL Nothing since. Dry as a bone.

Luvinit: if you are dripping on it all the time, maybe that's why it's leaking, just too much drip. :)

The carto measures 3.0 Ohms on the Provari. I set the Provari at 3.5 V. Let the carto sit for 15 mins. Took a drag - first drag ok, flavor muted, but, hey, it's a first drag. Second drag - dry hit. Letting it sit for another half an hour.

Interesting thing: I filled it full, and now it's only 2/3 full - wow, those wicks take a lot of juice!
 

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Got my pakage, filledup a scorpion, few drops down middle and it was ok, third or fourth pull, dry hit.

I then unscrewed the top and instead of trying to put the drops on the coil, I filled the sides of the metal tubes like you do with a filler carto, it works pretty good now.

I think of these as a ce2 in a carto tank. You fill the ce2 then fill the tank.
 
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Just to get this straight: You filled up the metal tube? :ohmy: Didn't it leak?

Got my pakage, filledup a scorpion, few drops down middle and it was ok, third or fourth pull, dry hit.

I then unscrewed the top and instead of trying to put the drops on the coil, I filled the sides of the metal tubes like you do with a filler carto, it works pretty good now.

I think of these as a ce2 in a carto tank. You fill the ce2 then fill the tank.
 

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No, it didn't leak, the metal tube just covers the wicks and post with the cup at the top ( think plastic tube of a fluxo)
so basically your just putting juice into the wick area instead of waiting for it to fill up from the bottom.

Try this experiment, take a few pulls without firing, you should see air bubbles. That's the juice going into the tube from the holes on the bottom kinda like on a phoenix. Now fill the wick area from the sides of the tube.
Take a few more dry pulls, no air bubble come up, just like on a phoenix that has the bottom filled with juice.

I think that by putting juice directly into the tube you help the wicks work better by eliminating air pockets.

All this may be total bs but it seems to have improved the performance of two of these considerably.
 

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Update on the Scorpion:

Unbelievable. It's half an hour later and this thing is still absorbing liquid. It's less than 2/3 full now. I actually measured it.

I just filled two of them....they are doing the same thing. As long as it all comes out in the vape...I'm fine with it. It does appear you have to let them sit for a while. I have to go teach a cooking class....so will check them out in about 3 hours.
 

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Ok, I have mine too and I ordered on Sat. so the shipping was the fastest I have seen from any place I have ordered. I opened up one of my Scorpians and I put some of the smashing peaches for gv and let it sit for 5 min.

First off It is very light weight, and really cute, (sorry) but I like the size alot. I did not wash this at all because I do have another one so I wanted to see if there was an odd taste to it without cleaning it. I only washed the drip tip. I filled mine a little more then 3 quarters of the way to the top and let its sit for 5 min. I am using my ego twist at the lowest setting which is 3.2. I have been taking it easy as far as taking vape (draw) from it, so very light vape and I can taste my juice with no dry hits so far.
I have taken at least 15 hits so far, the flavor is a bit, not alot muted but we know it could take awhile to break in. I have unscrewed it from my ego batt to check for leaks and so far none. So far so good for me, and I also liked the way the wicks sucked up half the juice I had put in there it happened really fast. I will continue to vape this thru out the night and see what happens.
 

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For those of you worried about the stacked batteries, If you do some searching i've seen a stick on fuse on a few sites called the Vape safe fuse..you put it on the battery and will blow before the battery blows. I dont have a stackable mod yet so i've never tried them but if its really bothering you maybe its something you should look into.
 

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Alright just took one apart to confirm my theory's.

Here's some pics

In this one I have all
The parts laid out
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You can clearly see that it's internals look very similar to a fluxo or a top coil phoenix.

Here is a close up of the tank itself
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See that giant wick over the top of all the little wicks (I call it the queen wick)

Now a pic if the cup area
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Notice that the queen wick is sitting on top of the coil and is not wrapped with wire

Here's the coil with the wick out of the way
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See all the little wick all wrapped up.


I think that the queen wick may be there just to feed the other smaller wicks with juice, later I may remove it and see what happens.
 
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