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Its not the amps its the watts. Never found a hair dryer sold by the amps it produces, they advertise the watts. Light bulbs are watts also. In incandescent bulbs, high watts = more light.

Ohm's law


V, I, and R, the parameters of Ohm's law.
Ohm's law states that the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference across the two points. Introducing the constant of proportionality, the resistance, one arrives at the usual mathematical equation that describes this relationship:

I = V/R

where I is the current through the conductor in units of amperes, V is the potential difference measured across the conductor in units of volts, and R is the resistance of the conductor in units of ohms. More specifically, Ohm's law states that the R in this relation is constant, independent of the current.

Circuit analysis

In circuit analysis, three equivalent expressions of Ohm's law are used interchangeably:

I = V/R or V = IR o r R = V/I

Each equation is quoted by some sources as the defining relationship of Ohm's law, or all three are quoted, or derived from a proportional form, or even just the two that do not correspond to Ohm's original statement may sometimes be given.
The interchangeability of the equation may be represented by a triangle, where V (voltage) is placed on the top section, the I (current) is placed to the left section, and the R (resistance) is placed to the right. The line that divides the left and right sections indicate multiplication, and the divider between the top and bottom sections indicates division (hence the division bar).

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I'm struggling to understand what this has to do with my post. You've recited Ohm's Law beautifully, but it doesn't negate anything I've said. When you have a battery that is being used to drive a circuit that is increasing the voltage of said battery it's going to draw more amperage in the circuit leaving less (we're talking protected batteries here, they limit the current draw) current for the coil to draw on to heat up the juice. Less current (amps) means less heat (vapor).
 

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Scorpion time!
First impressions, nice design, not efficient, but nice looking. We all know that when your CE2 gets low you tip it to wet the wick better. Not going to help here. Basically what we have is a CE2 in a tank with barely any juice in it. First hit: dry, light, slightly burnt (yes I let it sit). Second hit: dry, light slightly burnt. Let it sit, did a few unpowered draws, then got a decent hit. No flavor, lots of vapor, but not really bad at all. Honestly, cut the inner tube out and leave it like a CE2 with that tank. .... the top of the cup up to the bottom of the screw on cap and I think you've got something. Otherwise, it's a dry, light hitting CE2.
 

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my scorpion is still just vapin' away just fine ...
it won't fire on ma' Rocket tho :glare: was gonna try some higher voltages ...

So have you guys with wicking issues tried any thicker juice yet ? or lower volts?
& are you squirting juice into inside tube also on 1st fill ?

I like this carto as much as ce2's ...
just works & had good flavor & NICE mouth piece change....

only issue is the tank crack abilities, so like Briar was sayin' ...
this issue has been fixed w/the other ce2 types,
so this one is inferior in that aspect &
there really is no reason to carry it until the tubes are changed ..MHO

The ROCKET Rocks & the only issues I see there is the depth of the connection (not firing on some things)
& the fear of dropping it (might come apart) or scratching it up since it is painted....

LOVE the color,velvety paint, the VV option & controls & the off/on option.
The Weight & SIZE is GREAT & the Batts last a LONG time & charge FAST !
 

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I'm struggling to understand what this has to do with my post. You've recited Ohm's Law beautifully, but it doesn't negate anything I've said. When you have a battery that is being used to drive a circuit that is increasing the voltage of said battery it's going to draw more amperage in the circuit leaving less (we're talking protected batteries here, they limit the current draw) current for the coil to draw on to heat up the juice. Less current (amps) means less heat (vapor).

when you use a boost circuit to increase the voltage above that of the battery its not taking away current from the atty. the boost chip supplies the voltage and needed current (usually limited to about 12 watts) to the atty (current determined by voltage and atty ohm). the booster chip does this by drawing MORE current from the battery then would be used by an equivalent circuit with stacked batts and reducing the volts. in my experience the boosted mods sometimes seem to get wimpy but this is usually a factor caused by the battery(s) not being able to adequately supply the extra current. adding more or bigger batteries can help keep this from happening.
ah i forgot where i was going with that lol :D
 

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harmonic was going in the right direction but worded it improperly...

The boost circuit draws additional current as stated but at the voltage the battery provides... then converts the additional current into more voltage on the output side... the watts on the battery side and the output side remain the same to keep the circuit in balance.
 

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when you use a boost circuit to increase the voltage above that of the battery its not taking away current from the atty. the boost chip supplies the voltage and needed current (usually limited to about 12 watts) to the atty (current determined by voltage and atty ohm). the booster chip does this by drawing MORE current from the battery then would be used by an equivalent circuit with stacked batts and reducing the volts. in my experience the boosted mods sometimes seem to get wimpy but this is usually a factor caused by the battery(s) not being able to adequately supply the extra current. adding more or bigger batteries can help keep this from happening.
ah i forgot where i was going with that lol :D

But when you're already limiting current (protected batteries) you don't have a huge reserve to pull from, hence the reduction in heat produced as compared to the dual battery setup.
 

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harmonic was going in the right direction but worded it improperly...

The boost circuit draws additional current as stated but at the voltage the battery provides... then converts the additional current into more voltage on the output side... the watts on the battery side and the output side remain the same to keep the circuit in balance.

You can't pull more current than the battery allows. When you eat up current boosting the voltage you lose some on the other end. Remember, the atty isn't a circuit, it will pull as much current as you give it. That's why we use protected batteries.
 

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Checked out the scorpion tonite and seems to work fairly well. Fires fine on my rocket. I did notice the flavor was kinda dull and dry hitting at times at the beginning. I took a look at another one with no juice and noticed they have that dumb extra wick slapped on top of the coil. I ripped that extra wick out and it improved 100 fold. Major improvement in taste and no more dry hits.
 

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Luv and kel, if you get a razor blade, or a file, or both, and cut/file the plastic down to flush with the top of the connector you should eliminate all connection issues.

Yeah but ...that might mess up my lovely paint job :lol:
I have been considering it tho....I can see what needs to come off
...just don't wanna chip the paint :glare:
 
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