Question about being thrown out of a coffee shop
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I work in a coffee house and I vape while Im working.Ive had a few customers complain or ask what it is.The complainers I just ask them if they prefer I go outside and have a cig or wait on them and they usually quiet down.My boss doesnt mind at all.
Think many times before considering filing a lawsuit for any reason, they tend to consume your life and unless there's a big payoff in the end are usually not worth the extreme hassle. Has anyone considered mixing a juice that makes NO vapor, specifically for vaping in public, especially with a non analog-looking pv?
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I think the need to shove ones vaping in everyone's face is not the way to change perception for the better. If anything it will further prove to the anti's that nicotine is so dang addicting and controlling that it should be outlawed all together. It says, so you quit smoking in a time where no, you can't light up inside public places but obviously this vaping thing must be so much more addicting because you cannot go without sucking on the darn thing even long enough to get a cup of coffee.
It doesn't matter if he was smoking, vaping or wearing the wrong color tie with his shirt... the manager can kick you out for no reason at all, that's his/her right as a business owner (or representative thereof).
What he said.....I vape so I don't have to smoke cigarettes..I didn't start vaping to go around challeging no-smoking rules...If a place lets you vape....fine...if not...don't...Can't see getting so worked up about it....
Cali has some strict anti smoking laws as the OP stated. If our establishment allowed smoking inside, the owner and the serving employee would have to pay some rather big fines. I can't tell you how many times someone thought I was freebasing with my pv. There just isn't much public information out there and until the FDA embraces vaping...yeah, right, we have to be polite and educate when the subject is willing.
The manager said no smoking in front of the children and I can see that as being a huge issue for vaping to be accepted. How many of us started because "it looked cool"? Like the commercial running on TV, I started at 12. Posters here strongly advise non smokers not to start vaping nic because of addiction. I think that as long a vaping looks anything like smoking, we are going to have issues, even if it is legal.
Bottom line is we are pioneers. It is imperative to be courteous and compliant when in public. Each one of us is an ambassador for vaping.
The manager said no smoking in front of the children and I can see that as being a huge issue for vaping to be accepted. How many of us started because "it looked cool"? Like the commercial running on TV, I started at 12. Posters here strongly advise non smokers not to start vaping nic because of addiction. I think that as long a vaping looks anything like smoking, we are going to have issues, even if it is legal.
Bottom line is we are pioneers. It is imperative to be courteous and compliant when in public. Each one of us is an ambassador for vaping.
I don't see anywhere where it was "shoved in everyone's face".
The OP wasn't going around soliciting.
We have an ....... non-property-owner "manager" who was upset. With the owner's approval (via security), it supersedes.
In any case, I think I toed the line in my response well enough.
So your advice would have been for him to stand there and commit a crime in a vain effort to somehow convince the guy that he was wrong. Really, really bad advice.
The only change that standing there and making a spectacle of ourselves is going to bring about is a nice, big "Electronic Cigarette Use Prohibited" sign on the doors of the mall. Do you think the security guards at that mall are going to be so quick to provide verbal approval to vapers when they get into foolish confrontations with mall store managers?
As vapers, we need to exercise some wisdom and recognize when we can educate someone and when we cannot. Trying to educate someone who is being belligerent and just told you to "get out of his store" has zero chance of success and only makes you look like a jerk for even trying.
Huh? Hurting public opinion is one way to change it. Improving it is the other.
What does this even mean?
In handcuffs.
The security personnel only have say-so as far as the common spaces in a mall, each manager of each retail space has say-so within his/her property lines.
God! not at ALL!
There was no crime, and there was explicit permission from the actual property owner's representative.
There was no crime aside from a refusal to leave, which I'm not advocating for.
Wrong and wrong. Again, security's blessing means absolutely nothing. Unless it is specified in the lease that the coffee shop signed that the mall permits e-cigarette use and they have to also (which clearly is not the case), it is moot. As the designated manager, he as full legal authority to act on the owner's behalf in an instance such as this. The OP did not even contact the owner until afterwards so that is moot also.
Mall security is not the owner's representative, the manager is.
Again, security personnel does not represent the owner of the business, the manager of the business represents the owner. Security represents the mall common areas.
There are dogs allowed in my apartment complex, but that doesn't mean you can bring a dog to my apartment. Same thing here. Vaping approved in the mall, but not necessarily inside each businesses private property.
The proper thing to do is to put it away if your asked not to use it.Its just the right thing to do.
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