Quitting Vaping due too frustration

[inspects]

The thing is I liked the nautilus mini it was just made out of crappy chinese materials thus having to rebuy new ones all the time. Not to mention juices that lose flavor and throat hit over age instead of improving. The whole cotton and putting new cotton in when wanting to try new flavors etc seems so much of a hassle.

If you want to try something really simple which works just fine, buy a cheap 2200 Spinner II battery (or a couple), their cheap, and the Aspire tanks that are made for the spinners (inexpensive too). I used them for about a month before I bought everything known to mankind....and I still use the Spinner once in a while because it always has good flavor with a substantial amount of vapor.

Or buy a cheap 30 watt iStick and a couple Atlantis tanks, I have zero problems with this setup which I use everyday. The Atlantis vertical coils seem to last really well.

If you get either one of these setups I bet your frustration level will lower substantially.

I have expensive mods, subtanks, drippers, everything you can think of, I find myself using the inexpensive gear more than the other "stuff".

 

[SkvLTD]

As a relevant anecdote - you don't even know the struggle like a Fogger V2 with SS mesh. Survive that, and all these other childrens toys will be just that.

 

[d4gger]

6 years ago, Joyetech's new 510 system was the rage. It beat the 501 systems, and 808 was a baby. A 210 mAh battery, "new" poly-fill cartomizers, and a whopping 2.4-ohm coil would supply "massive" clouds for _hours. I ordered a manual two-full-set and some juice for $70-someodd. Three days in, I gave up. It wasn't for me - "clouds" meant I could pull for 6+ seconds and taste the scorch at the end of the poly-fill's ability. "Hours" meant the battery would give voltage for some 30 minutes of vaping like I smoked. I couldn't take it - but I knew it would come.

Four years later, a co-worker showed me his electronic. He smoked 2-3 packs/day, and hadn't smoked more than 2 sticks per day since buying it. I bought the deluxe - a MeGo (still can't find that brand name, haha) VV whomper and a mini Protank - for $80. With 24mg/mL juice, the throat hit was there, the vapor was comparable to a cig's smoke, and I could vape away the cig cravings. But the darned thing leaked. Like a faucet. I gave up.

This past October, I got a hankering to see what was new. I found MadVapes, and figured I'd give their Pyrex Aro V2 a try, and got an MVP 2 from Fasttech. It worked. It was all there, no leaks, no fuss. Following getting my order (and starting DIY, since I've yet to find a vendor except NN whose juice agrees with me), one pack of cigs lasted me two weeks (from pack+/day), then one month, then two, and now I've got a three-month-old pack of cigs that's half-full. Half the smokers on my shift now use Pyrex Aro V2s on an eGo battery, at seeing me and asking my recommendation. Which leads to my advice to you, even though I haven't read the past 8 pages..

Drop by MadVapes (or anywhere else that sells the Pyrex Aro V2, honestly) and get a tank or two, an eGo battery, and two charge cables (the things are stupid crappy everywhere, so have a backup). Get an MVP 3.0 if you feel like having VW.. my MVP 2 is doing great, so I expect the 3 is good as well. If you want to get into rebuilding, grab a cheap dripper while you're at MadVapes (or wherever, I honestly have no affiliation with them, they're just a great stateside source of good-price stuff) and think about RTAs after your dripper setups work well.

And if you want an even better system, drop by ReoVille

And, apologies to everyone who's tendered advice to the OP I didn't read.

 

[roxynoodle]

The thing is I liked the nautilus mini it was just made out of crappy chinese materials thus having to rebuy new ones all the time. Not to mention juices that lose flavor and throat hit over age instead of improving. The whole cotton and putting new cotton in when wanting to try new flavors etc seems so much of a hassle.

Honestly, some of my attys take me 5 minutes to wash, rewick and refill . The ones I already suggested are all that way. Start with one, and as you get comfortable, you can add a second, third, etc to enjoy more than one flavor a day. Give yourself a budget of $100 a month for good, but inexpensive gear since chances are you spent more than that on cigarettes anyway. You really don't need to buy $200 attys and mods to get a satisfying vape. I have a boatload of attys and my Lemo still ranks in my top 5 for flavor and ease. And I bought it more than 6 mnths ago and still like it that much.

 

[crxess]

The thing is I liked the nautilus mini it was just made out of crappy chinese materials thus having to rebuy new ones all the time. Not to mention juices that lose flavor and throat hit over age instead of improving. The whole cotton and putting new cotton in when wanting to try new flavors etc seems so much of a hassle.

Not so, many first run buyers still using the Nautilus without issues. Just a case of not getting things the way you want/need them to work.
Coils are Disposable, so yes you will need to keep replacing them.
Flavor falling off is a signal to one of two things:
1) You are becoming resistant to the flavor(Vapors tongue) and need to switch to something very opposite.
2) Time to change the wick as Clogging/Gunk will kill flavor

Throat hit - This should not be a problem under normal conditions. Even with Vapors tongue, Nic is Nic and the hit should not change.
Vapor falling off will reduce the amount of Nic and reduce TH.
Leaving your e-liquids under strong light/sunlight will oxidize the Nic.

Best of luck in working this out.

 

[Rizzyking]

I have four tanks with four flavours and I switch between them throughout the day otherwise I get that lack of flavour thing but to do that you have to have the tanks your happy with and Roxy is right the lemo is a cracking tank at a price that just improves it's appeal plus it's an authentic . I still stand by my earlier suggestions for you right now king as I do think you need a quick setup that will highlight the benefits of vaping clearly to you so you will be vaping long enough to progress to other things. Just gotta say coming into a thread about a vaper struggling and going with the mech & dripper routine is not helpful at all I know we have many who think they are the epitome of vaping but we have far more that don't and they certainly are not a practical suggestion for someone whose in the place king is right now.

 

[kingraptor724]

Not so, many first run buyers still using the Nautilus without issues. Just a case of not getting things the way you want/need them to work.
Coils are Disposable, so yes you will need to keep replacing them.
Flavor falling off is a signal to one of two things:
1) You are becoming resistant to the flavor(Vapors tongue) and need to switch to something very opposite.
2) Time to change the wick as Clogging/Gunk will kill flavor

Throat hit - This should not be a problem under normal conditions. Even with Vapors tongue, Nic is Nic and the hit should not change.
Vapor falling off will reduce the amount of Nic and reduce TH.
Leaving your e-liquids under strong light/sunlight will oxidize the Nic.

Best of luck in working this out.

Its not the coils its the dang base where there is like a little coil, after a month it like gunks up and breaks. It makes me want to tear my hair out. Idk I just feel like its alot of work with all those kayfun stuff and choosing cotton. Seeing as people only use like Japanese cotton whatever that means and what not is just so confusing

 

[Jumpin' In...]

If you don't want to bother with rebuilding coils and wicking them, don't buy a rebuildable tank. Just accept that you will have to periodically shell out a little cash for pre-built coils and move on.

Did you like the vape you got from the Nautilus? If you did, then maybe someone here could suggest another brand's tank that would produce like results. (I've never tried a Nautilus, so I'm no help there. I've been primarily a dripper for the past year or so, so everything I've tried is outdated anyway.)

If you didn't like the vape from the Nautilus, post what you are looking for in a tank and I'm sure you'll any number of suggestions from the many helpful members who have populated this thread.

I've never tried an Aspire tank and therefore have no personal opinion about them, but if I were in your shoes there is no way in **** that I would buy another tank made by Aspire (e.g. the Aspire Atlantis). Try a different manufacturer.

"Search and ye shall find."

The ECF members here are obviously willing to help, but only you can decide to search.

 

[Jumpin' In...]

Its not the coils its the dang base where there is like a little coil, after a month it like gunks up and breaks. It makes me want to tear my hair out. Idk I just feel like its alot of work with all those kayfun stuff and choosing cotton. Seeing as people only use like Japanese cotton whatever that means and what not is just so confusing

Maybe people who have a Nautilus know what "Its not the coils its the dang base where there is like a little coil" means. Anyone care to explain?

 

[jkress]

Hey- I'm a fairly new vaper (aroudn 2 months now) and have been lucky as hell when it comes to gear. I had an Nauti Mini that I never used since I got the Lemo Drop shortly after that (among other things). Going RTA/RDA isn't all that difficult or time-consuming- the maintenance, though it might be a bit frustrating in the beginning when it comes to wicking and coiling (but it passes and quickly with all of the resources here). I've had no issues and amazing vapes with it

For batteries, I'm guessing you mean regulated mods (vs mech mod). My initial concern was also longevity and durability. For that, I'd check out the MVP. It's a highly regarded mod that seems to last loonnnggg, some even over a year from my reading. Plus, it's relatively cheap so a relatively low investment. (I bought mine- the MVP 20W when it was still new for like $42 with shipping.) I'm going mech soon (once it gets off the boat...ergh), but it's generally not recommended that you start with it.

I agree and recommend the MVP as well...I was getting very frustrated with the ego style batteries and all "tube batteries" in general...I now have 3 MVP 2.0 (2600) and I love them! I can go forever on a charge..I use Davide (bcc coil) in the mini and full size...rewick my attys with organic cotton. I vape all high VG juice and have no issues. I have a couple of pro tank 2 and mini 2's but found I prefer the Davides. I have no wicking issues and couldn't be happier with the MVP.
If your interested PM me and I will send you the link where I got mine. $36,88 for the mod tank swivel drip tip and usb charger. Bonus to these thy have a USB port on the base you can charge your phone and they charge with you =r basic mini USB...Good Luck and don't give up...finding the right equipment really can make all the difference!! I also find the MPV 2.0 extremely basic and user friendly...
Like alljokingaside said lots of resources here and folks happy to help!

 

[TaketheRedPill]

OP - I just want to offer, that being smoke-free is possible, if you make the commitment to yourself. Choosing the right e-cig alternative is confusing these days with some 500 brands and who knows how many atomizer varieties. I guess I was lucky to start 'in the good old days'. When the debate was between cartridge inserts with straw mods and cartomizers haha.

For battery life, the best thing is to get a box mod type device that has a removeable 18650 battery. Go through some forum supplier's websites, take a look at what they have and pick one or three that look good to you then start searching the forum for pros and cons.

For atomizers/tanks, I've read that the Nauti needs about 25 watts to perform as expected - no gunking, etc. So, back to your device selection, you want a device that can push more than 20 watts. Do a forum search and read about the Nauti and you'll see what I mean about the sweet-spot.

Vaping beyond the level of cig-alikes and cartomizer-battery models requires research. It can be fun to try new equipment but you need to learn battery safety and how to marry different components for the best performance. You'd be surprised how much you can learn spending a few days just reading the different model forums here on ECF.

Don't give up. We want you to succeed in staying off cigarettes and I know you do too. You can do it.

 

[jkress]

I went back to my first "help me" post. July of 2012. It was a fun visit to the past! The Ego Twist had just come out---it was supposedly a "game changer"

Yes, Vapoor eyes er was in the topic..........very helpful...... so was DancingHeretik. Froginblender, Jixchel, TBinAZ, Theken. DC2 (of course!~)

The person who let me call was John D in CT. He was pretty amazing......very commited to getting people off cigs. He made a complete purchase order for me, and I was to call when it arrived.

I was overwhelmed with how many people jumped in to help me. I was really asking a lot of questions, despite having read on the forum for about 15 hours......I was SO CLUELESS, had zero idea what i was doing......almost embarassing now.

Shortly afterward, Buzzlove had some kind of contest on Youtube, and I won his used batteries. I think they were kgo's. I later put them in Treasure Chest. And DC2 taught me how to drip.....back-and-forths in PMs. I know it should seem straightforward, but really, i had no idea what to do with an over-the-counter atomizer, or how to even take care of one.

After almost 3 years I realize now how much I take for granted, i.e., vaping has gotten easier because there are more "all-in-one" type devices, that are paired to go together. Those people who helped me, we don't always agree on everything to this day, but I CREDIT THEM with helping me get off cigs......will always remember for rest of my life.

Also what made me commit to spending time in New Members, answer questions, once I was able to help a little, in an effort to pay it forward for how helpful everyone was to ME.

My first 2 weeks....I absolutely HATED vaping. I ordered juice from 2 companies and it tasted so awful I couldn't vape it. I persevered. At that point I remember thinking: "If I have to mortgage my house to get off cigs, I will do it." That is how important it was to me at the time, because I had DECIDED I did not want to smoke anymore---- but didn't know quite how that was all going to happen.

^^^^I think that is part of it though.......I always say "intention is the mother of invention " LOL
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Awesome story...and I think it probably rings a bell with many of us! Thanks for sharing!!

 

[Katya]

My recommendations--FWIW.

Batteries:

Innokin iTaste MVP 20 (not 2.0). Bigger than the other popular box mods but rock solid; improved 510 connection with a floating pin and an eGo adapter. Smaller than the MVP 30.

Innokin iTaste MVP 20W Box Mod - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

If you want a backup battery, you may try the iStick 30. You need more than one battery, anyway.

Toppers-single coil:

1) Pro Tank 2 with added airflow control valve--needs to be purchased separately.

Kanger Air Flow control Valve Base Replacements

Works great with Kanger single coils, and can be used with super cheap vertical coil heads from Kanger--really nice. I'm vaping one right now. They are similar to Nautilus coils, BTW.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/2018800

Dual coils:

1) Eleaf GS Air Tank--can be had for under 10 bucks. I love mine.

2) Aerotank or Emow Mega tank from Kanger.

You can find all at Sweet Vapes--great vendor, reasonable prices, fast shipping.

If those don't work for you, vaping is not for you.

Good luck.

 

[khalidmna]

I sympathise with you. It all seems like a lot of hassle at first, especially with so many devices and vendors out there. I know when I first heard about ecigs I was so eager to start I couldn't be bothered to ask aroubnd what other people found worked for them, what to expect, the range of devices available and where best to buy from - I just googled ecig and bought whatever came on the first ten results, I thought, hey their on the first page of google - they must be good! Just ask around here and give it another go. It worked for me once I found the right set up. Good luck!

 

[Imperialchugger]

i know it sucks pal. i wasted some money getting a twist type clone battery and i quickly upgraded to a nice reliable battery like istick. burnt some coils too as well. all in all, take good care of your tanks and it shouldnt break. good luck.

 

[Beena]

The beginning is the hardest part. There's so much to learn, but eventually you gain enough knowledge to diagnose and fix a problem quickly. Hang in there. Stay away from the coffin nails.

I agree the first few weeks can be frustrating but it's so worth it

 

[kkay59]

I started vaping the end of October. You can watch how to build Kayfuns on You Tube. I can send you some Japanese cotton, and some rayon. I could send you some coils that would work, but they aren't pretty as I don't have a torch. I know a Kayfun 3.1 inside and out. Aim for 1.8 ohms. Then you can try 1.2-2.2 in either direction, after you are comfortable with 1.8 ohms. But this is totally up to you. I am offering. I am going to unsubscribe from the thread now. But if you want to talk, as I said before, just pm me anytime. Good luck with whatever you decide. The offer remains open.

Its not the coils its the dang base where there is like a little coil, after a month it like gunks up and breaks. It makes me want to tear my hair out. Idk I just feel like its alot of work with all those kayfun stuff and choosing cotton. Seeing as people only use like Japanese cotton whatever that means and what not is just so confusing

 

[Zealous]

Glad to hear I am not the only one with nautilus mini problems, I would love any help people could give me. Perhaps some tips to buy or upgrade or something because Rebuying batteries and nautilus minis because of crap easygunk up design is not ideal. All the maintence of vaping is just overwhelming i miss just packing my pipe and then heading out.

Have you considered just using a simple 510 or 306 atty/battery combo & dripping? There are a number of people who like the simplicity of this type of set up. Although it's not a tank so you can't run all around town with it or whatever it's very low maintenance in that you simply use the atty until it needs a cleaning & then clean it out or throw it away & put on a new one.

I use an RDA but if I was not interested in rebuilding at all I would try a product like this. Grail 306 Version - Avid Vaper because it allows you to drip several drops rather than just 3 or 4 at a time.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Robino1]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/662707-vapers-progress.html

I think the OP may find this a very interesting read

 

[Racehorse]

My recommendations--FWIW.

Batteries:

Innokin iTaste MVP 20 (not 2.0). Bigger than the other popular box mods but rock solid; improved 510 connection with a floating pin and an eGo adapter. Smaller than the MVP 30.

Innokin iTaste MVP 20W Box Mod - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

If you want a backup battery, you may try the iStick 30. You need more than one battery, anyway.

Toppers-single coil:

1) Pro Tank 2 with added airflow control valve--needs to be purchased separately.

Kanger Air Flow control Valve Base Replacements

Works great with Kanger single coils, and can be used with super cheap vertical coil heads from Kanger--really nice. I'm vaping one right now. They are similar to Nautilus coils, BTW.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/2018800

Dual coils:

1) Eleaf GS Air Tank--can be had for under 10 bucks. I love mine.

2) Aerotank or Emow Mega tank from Kanger.

You can find all at Sweet Vapes--great vendor, reasonable prices, fast shipping.

If those don't work for you, vaping is not for you.

These are tried and true and hundreds of people have quit smoking using these "simple" setups. I like these suggestions a whole lot.

Inexpensive, not overly technical, and works.