Might be a tad high on the licorice?
Has anyone else tried the plex coils on the zenith? I ordered a box of the .5 plex coils to try and the flavor seems muted compared to the regular 1.6 coils. I thought maybe there was a long break in on them or something but I've run three or four tanks through this one and it's still weak on flavor.
@NotSoMini was it you that can’t vape WF because of a sweetner they use in their flavorings? If it was you which sweetner was it?
I'm using the one that came in it I think. It meters .49 I think it's the .5 plex?? But whatever it is I get great taste and it's long lasting with a dark joose.
I have 6 but it's not a solid six. At my daughters now and we leave for the airport at 2am.Be nice to have some warm weather for a few days.
Thank you both.
Sure will be nice to have some warm weather for a few days. (think I already said that....LOL)
Sure will be nice to have some warm weather for a few days. (think I already said that....LOL)What Brand(s) of concentrates? Brand can have a significant impact on percentage used.
Also, Luden's describes their Honey Licorice as: "menthol & honey."
If that is truly the case I am not sure how fitting the Cool Mint might be (no idea which one you have; so I have no clue as to its flavor profile). If the mint is light, and it has a noticeable menthol note, it might work. Otherwise, or maybe even at the same time; try a second version using just plain menthol in place of the mint.
Also, I am not sure about a tobacco note. I have only used TFA's Black Honey (tobacco); and I found it to be less about "honey," and more like a sweet pipe(ish?) tobacco. A straight up honey concentrate may(?) get you closer.
If you are wanting more of a tobacco vape, that has Luden's Honey Licorice resemblance, then I think you are on the right track. But, if you are trying to get as close as you can to the true cough drop, I think there might be better (more appropriate?) concentrates to consider.
I am just spit-ballin' here. I haven't tasted a Luden's Honey Licorice lozenge (though I loved their original (honey) menthol). And, I am not sure what concentrates you are wanting to use. Nor am I certain how close to the real thing you are wanting to get. So, I could easily be completely wrong... again.
Maybe I just got a bad coil. I put the 1.6 back in for now but I’ll try another.5 plex next time.
I think the Plex are more for dl vapers but I'm MTL and it works fine for me. I did buy 4 boxes of the 1.6 as that's more toward my norm.
Black licorice fw, Honeywood tobacco fw, cool mint capWhat Brand(s) of concentrates? Brand can have a significant impact on percentage used.
Also, Luden's describes their Honey Licorice as: "menthol & honey."
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If that is truly the case I am not sure how fitting the Cool Mint might be (no idea which one you have; so I have no clue as to its flavor profile). If the mint is light, and it has a noticeable menthol note, it might work. Otherwise, or maybe even at the same time; try a second version using just plain menthol in place of the mint.
Also, I am not sure about a tobacco note. I have only used TFA's Black Honey (tobacco); and I found it to be less about "honey," and more like a sweet pipe(ish?) tobacco. A straight up honey concentrate may(?) get you closer.
If you are wanting more of a tobacco vape, that has Luden's Honey Licorice resemblance, then I think you are on the right track. But, if you are trying to get as close as you can to the true cough drop, I think there might be better (more appropriate?) concentrates to consider.
I am just spit-ballin' here. I haven't tasted a Luden's Honey Licorice lozenge (though I loved their original (honey) menthol). And, I am not sure what concentrates you are wanting to use. Nor am I certain how close to the real thing you are wanting to get. So, I could easily be completely wrong... again.
Okay... I haven't used any of those.
So, I am entirely talking out my nether regions here, but based on various reviews I would likely start with something like this:
-- Black Licorice (FW): 3% if I wanted it as my main note. Otherwise, 1.5-2% as a secondary. NOTE: important to shake this one up thoroughly before using. I saw a couple of mentions about it separating. And, may be part(?) of the comments saying it is weak, while others comment on how strong it is.
-- Honey Wood Tobacco (FW): This was a toughy! I could find very little detailed info on this one. From what little I did find; I would be inclined to start at 4%. It may need to go as high as 6% depending on how forward you want it.
-- Cool Mint (CAP): "mint" seems to definitely be the forward note here, with menthol being mostly an afterthought. I would start this one at 1-1.5% depending on how prominent you want the mint to be. For additional cooling, without more mint; I would consider adding extra menthol, or WS-23 if you don't like the menthol taste.
Again, this is nothing more than wild-arsed guessing, but it would be where I would start.
I've used several of the .5 Plex Z coils, because one bunch of tanks I bought came with them installed. I don't like them as much as the .8 or 1.8 coils, but they're okay. I think they're different from the Plex3D coils that are supposed to be so wonderful, which come in a .48 version and are compatible with the Zenith (I wasn't sure, so I asked @Innokin_Joseph, and he said, yes, they are). I haven't tried one of those yet.
I'm going to give it a go, I'll add ws23 @.2%. ThanksOkay... I haven't used any of those.
So, I am entirely talking out my nether regions here, but based on various reviews I would likely start with something like this:
-- Black Licorice (FW): 3% if I wanted it as my main note. Otherwise, 1.5-2% as a secondary. NOTE: important to shake this one up thoroughly before using. I saw a couple of mentions about it separating. And, may be part(?) of the comments saying it is weak, while others comment on how strong it is.
-- Honey Wood Tobacco (FW): This was a toughy! I could find very little detailed info on this one. From what little I did find; I would be inclined to start at 4%. It may need to go as high as 6% depending on how forward you want it.
-- Cool Mint (CAP): "mint" seems to definitely be the forward note here, with menthol being mostly an afterthought. I would start this one at 1-1.5% depending on how prominent you want the mint to be. For additional cooling, without more mint; I would consider adding extra menthol, or WS-23 if you don't like the menthol taste.
Again, this is nothing more than wild-arsed guessing, but it would be where I would start.
black licorice 1.5%, honey tobacco 3%, cool mint 1%, ws23 .2%
I'm not too fond of strong flavors, so I think I'll try this one.
If I don't like it, it won't be the first one that I didn't like.
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Finally conquered the raspberry!
Been playing with PUR Raspberry, which is so juicy, plump and realistic tasting, but it was fading on me - or possibly muting at higher percentages.
Tried FA Raspberry (Berry) solo @2% - got florals and a 'just ripe' fresh, slightly tart raspberry taste. Didn't like the florals however.
Combined the two with 1% FA Raspberry and 3% PUR Raspberry - after a 3 day steep the florals are gone, and I've got a ripe, plump juicy raspberry that is perfect.
Been playing with PUR Raspberry, which is so juicy, plump and realistic tasting, but it was fading on me - or possibly muting at higher percentages.
Tried FA Raspberry (Berry) solo @2% - got florals and a 'just ripe' fresh, slightly tart raspberry taste. Didn't like the florals however.
Combined the two with 1% FA Raspberry and 3% PUR Raspberry - after a 3 day steep the florals are gone, and I've got a ripe, plump juicy raspberry that is perfect.
The numbers look reasonable to me. Maybe(?) a touch heavy on the licorice in relation to the others. But, if you are wanting a licorice forward profile, I think you are in good shape. I'll be curious what you think of it once you've had a chance to vape on it a while. I hope it at least gets you in the ballpark. I feel a bit complicit now.
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