I'm not a Virginian fan. Tends to be too grassy for my tastes. And I completely agree about the cigar flavors not being ADVs. They never were for me either. But the reason they are not ADVs is because they are dry. Dryness gets old quick even though the flavor might be good. This is why I blend bakery/citrus with those dry cigar NETs. It makes them much more durable. So for blending purposes, this is why I am looking for a straight up, mild/pleasant tobacco flavor. Of all the ones I have vaped over the years, I find cigar (and especially Havana types) to fit that profile the best. And while I prefer the cased pipe NETs the most, I'm relegated to THEIR flavors. So my approach with DIY is to go with the straight up cigar NETs and adding my preferred flavors to give them endurance.