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Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by FranC, May 27, 2018.

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  1. NGAHaze

    NGAHaze Infinity Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks Fran, I'm definitely going to try this but I'll have to make some substitutions and not just the whiskey portion either. I'm also missing FLV Basil :-x but I may have something that I could sub for it. Am I correct in assuming that you are either the cause of or, at the very least, a contributing factor in the current OOS situation of this flavor at BCF? :lol:
     
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  2. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Last night I mixed up one I found on ELR with great reviews. People say it tastes like Cran-Apple juice and Loaded Cran-Apple Juice by Ruthless.
    The recipe called for CAP Supersweet and I used EM instead, based on the comments. I definitely don't think the Fuji is too strong - it probably takes that much to get any apple flavor with the cranberry. Anyway, I like it a lot (and didn't really expect to) so thought I would share it with you.

    Cotton Candy (EM) (TFA) 2%
    Cranberry (TFA) 7%
    Fuji (FA) 4%
    WS-23 .5% (certainly optional)

    I mixed up another test batch of Cran-Apple today using 2% Fuji, a bit of INW Pear and a bit of FE Lemon. After it settles, I will test it and see which one, to my tastes, is better. If nothing else, I can mix the two together and maybe make some magic. :D
     
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  3. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    I'm going to try cran-fuji-dragon fruit.
     
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  4. Myk

    Myk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2009
    IL, USA
    In spite of my experience with Inawera apple tasters I have no fear of apples under 5%.
    My Inawera Bahraini taster is 10%:lol:

    OK, I learned. The Cinnamon apple is 1% INW Bahraini 2% TFA Candy Apple.
    But my INW Two (caramel) Apples is used solo at 5% and I have no regrets. I might back it down but it will be gradual.
     
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  5. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    INW two apples is a very good snv, but the skin gets so strong to me after a few weeks.
     
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  6. dc99

    dc99 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2014
    earth
    It does get stronger but it is so good with FA fuji
    If you like apple then you need to try diyordie reds clone. Its really good
    FA fuji 5%
    Cap double apple 3%
    INW two apples 1.5%
    .5% sweetner
     
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  7. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    I haven't tried those percentages yet, love Cap double apple with fuji. Going to sub honeysuckle for sweetener tho.
     
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  8. dc99

    dc99 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2014
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    This is the only recipe I ever took it that high but it is good. Interesting twist with the honeysuckle
     
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  9. Fidola13

    Fidola13 Prepper Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I notice it just switching between different RDAs too then tack on different power/temp settings. That’s why I do all my recipe taste tests on the same RDA.
     
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  10. IDJoel

    IDJoel Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2015
    Boise, ID
    Thanks Anna, for sharing your impressions (and you to @Letitia; sorry that I forgot you were another DIYer with personal experience):thumb:.

    I understand PEG400 is most commonly used as a substitute for PG. However, in this instance (Fran's trying to "de-sweeten" some of her mixes/concentrates), if the PEG400 might be used in place of the VG. Maybe even as the sole carrier (just flavor, Nic, and PEG400).

    Is the PEG400 thick enough to prevent catastrophic flooding? And, is there any (too much) harshness to it, to prevent solo use?
    That's why I was asking. If you were able to minimize/eliminate any inherent sweetness that might be coming from your base, maybe some of your "too sweet" recipes/concentrates might become acceptable.

    But, instead of using it as a sub for PG (which I get no impression you have any problems with), I was thinking as a VG substitution. The NR description says:
    "Polyethylene Glycol 400, USP is a clear, colorless, viscous liquid, the USP grade,..."
    That made me think maybe a PG/PEG400 blend, or all PEG400 base, could take the place of your current PG/VG base.

    Just thinkin' out loud... feel free to ignore me. :D:lol::lol::lol::D
    Here's PJ's grapefruit post: Random DIY mixing and More
    I have always perceived a sweetness from the INW Strawberry Shisha. I once tried @AndriaD's strawberries & cream recipe that called for SS to be used at a whopping 18%. At that extreme, the shisha notes (predominantly honey, and a bit of incense(y) tobacco) really came out. But even at much lower (1-3%) percentages, I have found it to be a sweeter, more candy-like, strawberry.

    As for the lemon note; I feel about lemon concentrates, the way you feel about lime concentrates... they all have some (some more; some less) semblance of "sweet" to them (including FA Lemon Sicily). It very well could all just be in my head; in the absence of any real "sour" note, my twisted brain tells me they must therefore be sweet.:rolleyes::facepalm: But, right or wrong, that is my perception.:D
    I don't know if you ever use any other supplier besides BCF; but I found it still in stock at Nicotine River (and bought some:cool:) this holiday. The price was the same. :D
     
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  11. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    I don't think I've taken fuji over 3%. Going to go with your percents tho. Apple & honeysuckle pair well together, somehow it isn't too sweet. Should be but...
     
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  12. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    PEG 400 isn't near thick enough to replace vg. That being said many successfully vape 100% pg so it can work.
     
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  13. hittman

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    Thanks for sharing that. I will give it a try. I saw another one with 4.5 of kiwi and cranberry along with some sweetener.
     
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  14. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    New Hampshire
    Nope,not me. I only got one bottle. You could use FA Zen Garden if you have it.
     
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  15. PJReid

    PJReid Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I also like this version of Cran-Apple that I mixed up based on a few suggestions here about your recipe. It is quite good for my taste though if you want Cran-Apple, the first one I posted is perfect.

    Cotton Candy (EM) - 2%
    Cranberry (TPA) - 7%
    Fuji (FA or Jungle Flavors) - 4%
    Lemon (FE) - .25% (Lemon Sicily would work well too)
    Pear (INW) - .25%
    I added .5% of WS-23 because I like my juices icy!

    Thank YOU for posting your problem recipe. If you had not, I would never have discovered how much I like Cran-Apple. :thumbs:
     
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  16. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks,Joel,as always:)
     
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  17. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well ain't that a bummer. I did lower my VG to 20% when I did my nic base today.
     
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  18. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Cran-apple sounds good. Oh course I've never been able to taste apple vapes. Gave up on it long ago.
     
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  19. FranC

    FranC TWR Co-Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ended up remixing 2 recipes today. Should work this time.At least I hope so. Will be trying some of my flavor testers tomorrow. Of course the taste fresh may have nothing to do with the steeped taste. Maybe I'll just try the couple I'm most curious about and put the rest away. Fruits shouldn't take that long to fully steep. 10 days,15days?? Thoughts?
     
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  20. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    My NR order has shipped. Sent via FedEx and arriving by Wed.
     
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